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  1. moc426's Avatar
    This is my first night tracking sleep with the band and the result is a bit surprising. I am not sure if I should be concerned or not. I tracked sleep previously with fitbit and that always tells me actual sleep time vs time in bed which would seem to match this, although I usually sleep less than this. I did sleep earlier for this night as I was tired so I did get more sleep than usual.

    My concern here is the restful sleep of 2 hours. Is this normal or is this something to be concerned with? I will see how my sleep does over the next few days and see if this pattern continues. I am just not sure what to make of it yet.

    My resting HR was 44.

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    Matt Viel 222 likes this.
    11-05-2014 10:41 AM
  2. jandee's Avatar
    I am not sure if that is normal. My results were in line with my expectations. Usually go to bed at midnight and wake at 5am. I was excited to go to bed early last night and test out the Band. :)

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    11-05-2014 11:18 AM
  3. d702's Avatar
    Those numbers are pretty much in line with what I've been seeing.
    Date. Actual sleep. Restful sleep. Resting HR. Efficiency.
    10/30. 6h41m. 1h26m. 49. 95
    10/31. 8h8m. 1h19m. 47. 94
    11/1. 8h14m. 2h24m. 45. 93
    11/2 had to charge, due to 5k with gps on 11/1
    11/3. 6h33m. 1h29m. 44. 96
    11/4. 8h43m. 2h48m. 46. 95
    Matt Viel 222 likes this.
    11-05-2014 11:33 AM
  4. Daniel Rubino's Avatar
    "Restful" here likely means estimated deep sleep aka Stage 3 delta waves.

    We have sleep cycles, roughly every 60 minutes, broken into different levels. Stage 1 (light) Stage 2 (deeper) Stage 3 (Delta) then REM (dreaming).

    The restful stuff is the core sleep needed and we get roughly 10-20 mins per cycle. However, most users go in and out of stages throughout the night in different ratios. For instance, we tend to get REM in the later hours of sleep instead of the early ones.

    If you're sleeping 7 or 8 hours, then 2 hours of restful sleep is solid.

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    I'll probably do an article on this for the front page.
    11-05-2014 11:45 AM
  5. moc426's Avatar
    Wow thanks, I really appreciate your insight on this topic (looking forward for the article). Glad to know I am not dying lol. I have to give nose strips a 2nd chance, so my wife stops waking me cause of snoring.

    Thanks everyone for the responses so far, this is an interesting topic.
    11-05-2014 12:02 PM
  6. jandee's Avatar
    Now I am jealous that I am receiving half the amount of REM sleep than other users. I wonder how this is affecting my cognition during the day. :(
    Last edited by jandee; 11-05-2014 at 12:05 PM. Reason: spelling
    11-05-2014 12:05 PM
  7. Daniel Rubino's Avatar
    Now I am jealous that I am receiving half the amount of REM sleep than other users. I wonder how this is affecting my cognition during the day. :(
    Eh, I got 56 mins of restful sleep last night, which was more than ZERO the night before, lol. I average between 30-60.
    11-05-2014 12:16 PM
  8. sanva's Avatar
    4.58 total, 33 min of restful and woke up 5x. I love having kids.
    11-05-2014 02:01 PM
  9. foofighter#AC's Avatar
    Eh, I got 56 mins of restful sleep last night, which was more than ZERO the night before, lol. I average between 30-60.
    same here, glad i'm not alone thought there was something wrong w/ me LOL
    11-05-2014 04:47 PM
  10. dainla's Avatar
    I have no idea what to think of this other than I think it's cool to know.

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    11-05-2014 11:04 PM
  11. Richard Servello's Avatar
    4.58 total, 33 min of restful and woke up 5x. I love having kids.
    It's been interesting sleep tracking. I've always been a good sleeper, even after my restless daughter joined us. I seem to be averaging about about 1.5 hours of restful sleep in a 6 hour session. On Tues I had nearly 2 hours out of 6 restful. Averaging a 95% effective. So at least I got that going...lol.
    11-06-2014 07:52 AM
  12. jwpear's Avatar
    Below are snapshots of my sleep last night. Appreciate Daniel providing some insight on the stages of sleep and how they correlate to what we're seeing in the Health app. I have sleep apnea, so I was very curious to see how the Band measures my sleep quality compared to what has been measured at the sleep lab in the past. I wore my mask all night, as I do every night. I did not understand the periods of restful and light sleep. I thought maybe my mask wasn't working properly. Another thing I'm curious about is the heart rate the Band is measuring during sleep. For the past two nights, it has measured, what seems to me, a relatively high heart rate during my sleep. I know my oxygen levels are good--they've been shown to be good in the sleep lab and the doc has periodically sent home an ox meter to check. I don't know why else my heart rate might be up during sleep. Makes me wonder if the Band is just misreading (it's off during exercise compared to my Cardiosport strap). I know my heart rate was not 130 when I woke this morning. That's high enough that I think I would have noticed. Looking forward to Daniel's article on this. Seems like this is something Microsoft should be writing an article about.

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    11-06-2014 08:54 AM
  13. moc426's Avatar
    This is what sleep looks like after dealing with ants at 2 am and having a sick baby.

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    11-06-2014 11:00 AM
  14. JPDVM2014's Avatar
    I don't have anything to add since I haven't been able to get a Band yet, but I just wanted to comment on dainla and jwpear falling asleep in ~6 minutes. I can't even get comfortable in 6 minutes. :-)
    11-10-2014 01:37 PM
  15. noirsoft's Avatar
    Here is my sleep from last night. Sadly, it is all too typical, and even on the better side of my usual nights.typical_night.jpg
    11-11-2014 02:08 AM
  16. sanva's Avatar
    Checking in
    Or I tried can't insert image on WP on a Windows website go figure.
    11-11-2014 02:51 AM
  17. slyronit's Avatar
    You guys don't sleep much, do you?

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    11-11-2014 03:21 AM
  18. originalstarlite's Avatar
    I like the concept and the tracking results, but what about that heart rate sensor. I'm annoyed with that green light (under the covers for me right now), but doesn't it bother you?
    11-11-2014 06:08 AM
  19. moc426's Avatar
    Yikes that is terrible. Why do you have such a hard time sleeping ... I used to take a long time to fall asleep when I was younger, but no where near that. Something is wrong there.

    Here is my sleep from last night. Sadly, it is all too typical, and even on the better side of my usual nights.Click image for larger version. 

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    11-11-2014 07:49 AM
  20. lizziej's Avatar
    I like the concept and the tracking results, but what about that heart rate sensor. I'm annoyed with that green light (under the covers for me right now), but doesn't it bother you?
    My band is tight enough that I barely see the green light. Also my understanding is that its not on constantly, but is taking samples throughout the night
    11-11-2014 08:06 AM
  21. slyronit's Avatar
    I like the concept and the tracking results, but what about that heart rate sensor. I'm annoyed with that green light (under the covers for me right now), but doesn't it bother you?
    If you can see the green light, its not fit properly.
    11-11-2014 08:55 AM
  22. slyronit's Avatar
    Here is my sleep from last night. Sadly, it is all too typical, and even on the better side of my usual nights.Click image for larger version. 

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    You need a doctor, not a band
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    11-11-2014 08:56 AM
  23. DroidUser42's Avatar
    Here is my sleep from last night. Sadly, it is all too typical, and even on the better side of my usual nights.Click image for larger version. 

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    Doesn't look that bad once you actually get to sleep. But it does look like something that needs to be worked on. Are you a shift worker that just changed shifts? 3AM to Noon seems odd.
    11-11-2014 11:54 AM
  24. DroidUser42's Avatar
    If you can see the green light, its not fit properly.
    Keep in mind that if you wear it with the display to the inside, when you rest your hand on something, it will push the HR sensor away. It may take a pretty tight fit to make it invisible under all situations. I'd look into a different hand position. Not so much so that there's no gap, but that the light doesn't reach your eyes.

    I've only had it happen once, so it's not an issue. Then again, I started switching wrists for the night to give my "day" wrist a rest. (try saying that fast). I haven't had an issue since.
    11-11-2014 11:59 AM
  25. noirsoft's Avatar
    Thanks for the concern, folks! :) I am a natural night person who has been forced to spend the last 41 years living on a normal schedule. As a professional computer programmer, I have a certain leeway to set my schedule. but I can't quite make a "sleep at 6 am, wake up past noon" work for most employers. I also have sleep apnea (diagnosed -- but why do they insist on only measuring you from 10 PM until early morning?) but have not yet gotten a CPAP machine. So, I have seen doctors, it's just a long process that is still ongoing. And here's the next night's sleep:
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    11-11-2014 03:10 PM
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