1. bulls96's Avatar
    Anyone dared swimming with the band yet? Just curious. If someone has done takedowns I'm thinking someone would test the waters with it too, quite literally.
    01-01-2015 10:37 AM
  2. bksalt's Avatar
    Your welcome to try
    bulls96 likes this.
    01-01-2015 10:47 AM
  3. Darin Hamel's Avatar
    I've run in the rain and done dishes with it. It's water resistant and not water proof.
    01-01-2015 10:53 AM
  4. jnjroach's Avatar
    The User Guide specifically states not to use in the shower or while swimming....
    SamJHannan, sinime and xandros9 like this.
    01-01-2015 11:27 AM
  5. realwarder's Avatar
    Swimming might be pushing things. Unlikely to survive. Might make an entertaining video if you're into blogging.
    xandros9 likes this.
    01-01-2015 11:42 AM
  6. gernerttl's Avatar
    It's water resistant down to 1m for 30min. I wouldn't try it.
    01-01-2015 03:27 PM
  7. Chris_Kez's Avatar
    Please try it, then report back. I wonder if that Liquipel treatment would work. Maybe someone will come up with a case for it with a little window for the optical sensor.
    01-01-2015 08:08 PM
  8. xandros9's Avatar
    Swimming might be pushing things. Unlikely to survive. Might make an entertaining video if you're into blogging.
    Sorry but this sounded exactly like something Mordin would say. (of Mass Effect fame)
    I even heard the voice.

    220px-mordin_solus.png
    01-01-2015 08:37 PM
  9. realwarder's Avatar
    Sorry but this sounded exactly like something Mordin would say. (of Mass Effect fame)
    I even heard the voice.

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    Interesting.
    01-02-2015 08:11 AM
  10. bulls96's Avatar
    I just purchased Microsoft Complete for my band.

    There is actually no deductibles for "accidents". It is limited to one replacement only.

    Hmmm...
    01-03-2015 02:53 PM
  11. bobsentell's Avatar
    Sounds like a good experiment for a tech blog of some kind.
    01-03-2015 11:28 PM
  12. DroidUser42's Avatar
    It's water resistant down to 1m for 30min. I wouldn't try it.
    Especially since I think that rating is for static pressure - not the dynamics you find in swimming.

    We also had a forum member ruin his Band by accidentally showering with it. (Soap also changes things.)
    01-04-2015 04:13 AM
  13. bksalt's Avatar
    try this video on the band and water
    01-04-2015 11:06 AM
  14. bulls96's Avatar
    That's a great video. Thanks for posting. Now if someone would be brave enough to swim with it :) not me sorry :)
    01-04-2015 11:40 AM
  15. gernerttl's Avatar
    Nice video. But it still backs up Microsoft's claims and I don't think Microsoft is being conservative in its rating. That was only a couple inches of water for 20 minutes. Like I said previously it is rated at 1m for 30 minutes, that's based on actual testing. Also, like DroidUser42 said, swimming changes the dynamics. Bottom line - Don't swim or shower with it. However, normal hand washing and being out in the rain should not be a problem.
    01-04-2015 07:24 PM
  16. onlysublime's Avatar
    "changes the dynamics"?

    1 meter is plenty deep for swimming. the force on a device within 1 meter of water is not any greater unless you swim at the speeds of a speedboat.

    that said, I wouldn't mind testing it (when it gets warmer). however, the test would still be anecdotal and wouldn't necessarily apply to everyone's situation.
    01-04-2015 10:00 PM
  17. gernerttl's Avatar
    The pressure at 1m is 2psi more than unsubmerged. For a human body that is negligible... we can't even feel it. For a water resistant device such as the Band, it's a bigger deal since the device's seals aren't made to withstand that pressure for prolonged periods in a static test. Add the movement of swimming itself and you've changed the dynamics. Does that make sense?
    01-05-2015 12:10 AM
  18. onlysublime's Avatar
    I'd like to see what definitively the rating means. If it actually means "static pressure".
    01-05-2015 11:03 PM
  19. gernerttl's Avatar
    This is what Microsoft says:

    Microsoft Band product safety and regulatory info | Microsoft Band water resistance

    IP6X - Dust proof
    IPX7 - Water resistant down to 1m for 30min

    IP67 - Total rating.

    Here is how the ratings work:

    IP Code - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    It's kind of confusing at first. A quick break down. The first number is solid; the second is liquids.

    So essentially they just set it in 1m of water for 30min. If it was still working and had no water infiltration then it is rated for IPX7 for water.
    Last edited by gernerttl; 01-06-2015 at 01:03 AM.
    01-06-2015 12:47 AM
  20. E Lizzle's Avatar
    I wouldn't swim with the band in a swimming pool, the chlorine will corrode the heck out of the contacts.

    -E
    01-07-2015 07:52 AM
  21. DroidUser42's Avatar
    I'd like to see what definitively the rating means. If it actually means "static pressure".
    I'd be very surprised if it didn't. Static is easy to test. Just have a tub of water and a clock. Dynamic would add an ream of paper to the standard. What kind of motion? How fast? How often? Now you'd need some kind of robot to do that.

    If a board will hold 200 lbs and you weigh 180, would you do jumping jacks on it? I wouldn't. Likewise with swimming, you've got fluid flow, turbulence and things like that going on. Plus, on the bottom of your stroke, the Band will be half a meter underwater. There just isn't enough safety margin from the static test for everything going on.

    OTOH, if you have one of those watches that were rated for 666 feet - I think you'd drown before the watch did.
    01-07-2015 01:48 PM

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