1. darth_furious's Avatar
    One thing the videos should have done is show Cortana for Hololens. I think Hololens should have a 3D Cortana like in Halo that interacts with you like it does on windows 10. She could remind you things, you can tell her to send an email or look up something. It would totally be a Siri killer if they develop this. I imagine it would be possible to develop a 3D GUI for Cortana and have it run the same back end as the desktop. This would be an awesome way to advertise for the hololens and MS in general.
    01-22-2015 04:27 PM
  2. gMaesterUK's Avatar
    I thought I saw an image of this somewhere in the last couple hours. Problem is, I've been to so many sites, I can't remember...

    G.
    01-22-2015 04:31 PM
  3. onysi's Avatar
    ms can easily do it.
    cortana_by_silverbat.jpg


    bringing her to life will literally make siri look like a nobody.
    I think they just need to work with 343 industries to give her the animation and personality.
    they have the upperhand for having a gaming studio.
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    01-22-2015 04:43 PM
  4. Nicholas Maguire's Avatar
    Heck yeah, that'd be amazing.
    01-22-2015 04:48 PM
  5. gMaesterUK's Avatar
    ms can easily do it.

    bringing her to life will literally make siri look like a nobody.
    I think they just need to work with 343 industries to give her the animation and personality.
    they have the upperhand for having a gaming studio.
    True, but MS have been closing studios in last couple years.

    G.
    01-22-2015 04:50 PM
  6. EStrait39's Avatar
    I was literally just thinking about this today! It seems like a no brainer with Hololens, and it would be so cool if they added the ability to have a conversation with Cortana... lol loner life I know!
    Nicholas Maguire likes this.
    01-22-2015 06:42 PM
  7. JamesDax's Avatar
    I'll just repost what I put in another thread.
    Personally, I'd rather have the option of creating my own Holo AI. Have the ability to chose the name, sex, voice, look and personality running on the Cortana engine.. But I'd take Cortana for now.
    01-22-2015 07:31 PM
  8. astroXP's Avatar
    I thought I saw an image of this somewhere in the last couple hours. Problem is, I've been to so many sites, I can't remember...

    G.
    Yeah, probably my thread (http://forums.windowscentral.com/mic...-hololens.html)....
    01-23-2015 08:59 AM
  9. DanielJoseph7's Avatar
    I'll just repost what I put in another thread.
    wouldn't that be a lot harder for Microsoft to make?
    01-23-2015 09:02 AM
  10. JamesDax's Avatar
    wouldn't that be a lot harder for Microsoft to make?
    Why? The same engine would drive it. You would just be creating the Avatar.
    01-23-2015 09:08 AM
  11. DanielJoseph7's Avatar
    Why? The same engine would drive it. You would just be creating the Avatar.
    Sorry, thought you said you could change it's personality for a second. Nevermind.
    01-23-2015 09:15 AM
  12. JamesDax's Avatar
    Sorry, thought you said you could change it's personality for a second. Nevermind.
    Well I did say personality. But the voice and personality would just be small bits of code you could chose from.

    Voice: Male, Female
    Personality: Strict, sexy, indifferent, scholarly, etc...

    I'm sure you've played RPGs that have had these types of options in their avatar builders.
    01-23-2015 09:21 AM
  13. DanielJoseph7's Avatar
    Well I did say personality. But the voice and personality would just be small bits of code you could chose from.

    Voice: Male, Female
    Personality: Strict, sexy, indifferent, scholarly, etc...

    I'm sure you've played RPGs that have had these types of options in their avatar builders.
    Ya ok, sorry, didn't read that correctly at all lol, but I guess that would be easy and really cool
    01-23-2015 09:46 AM
  14. Sujith Raj t's Avatar
    Can't wait to see Cortana!! Lol
    01-23-2015 10:03 AM
  15. Rellik66's Avatar
    ... Just for irony sake, Clippy should be a possible avatar for Cortana, but it really should be possible to have different Cortana avatars, say EDI from Mass Effect 2 or 3, Princess Leia, HAL 9000...I could go on. The only issue is voice personalities could be limited.

    Add in Hey Cortana and I think this could be awesome. just say "Hey Cortana" and Cortana will pop up on the nearest flat surface. Ask a question and she pops up multiple type of results based on the inquiry, you can then grab what interests you and drag it wherever.
    01-23-2015 12:37 PM
  16. Ashles's Avatar
    ... Just for irony sake, Clippy should be a possible avatar for Cortana.
    Oh god, I would probably use that just for the comedy value.
    "It looks like you're trying to eat an apple. Would you like any help with that? It looks like youre sitting down. Would you like any help with that? It looks like you're trying to smash your Hololens. Would you like any hel-"
    05-11-2015 09:45 AM
  17. Motor_Mouth's Avatar
    I think Microsoft have missed the boat a little with this kind of thing. Having seen Age of Ultron over the weekend, they should be showing demos that look like the tech we've seen in those films. What we've seen instead are Fisher-Price looking toy UIs that are obviously a lot easier to make but not nearly as impressive. e.g. Imagine if that image of the globe in the stage demo was covered in cool looking tech overlays or even just realtime weather overlays, like you get with the Meteo weather app on Win8. Maybe stuff like that could be done through a theme-able 3rd party app, like Rainmeter does for desktops? How freakin' cool would that be!?!
    05-11-2015 08:28 PM
  18. grahamf's Avatar
    I think Microsoft have missed the boat a little with this kind of thing. Having seen Age of Ultron over the weekend, they should be showing demos that look like the tech we've seen in those films. What we've seen instead are Fisher-Price looking toy UIs that are obviously a lot easier to make but not nearly as impressive. e.g. Imagine if that image of the globe in the stage demo was covered in cool looking tech overlays or even just realtime weather overlays, like you get with the Meteo weather app on Win8. Maybe stuff like that could be done through a theme-able 3rd party app, like Rainmeter does for desktops? How freakin' cool would that be!?!
    Cool, and also unrealistic. Microsoft is trying to simultaneously create a new form of technology AND have a market for it, and this is actually pretty unheard of.
    GM made the first electric car but it was a market failure, and later on the Tesla Roadster came along and created demand for electric cars.
    Microsoft had the first touchscreen tablet computer which was a colossal failure, to later on be followed by the iPad.
    Heck, Xerox have the first graphical OS but the Macintosh sold (but gave way to Windows)

    Microsoft has to clearly define it's capabilities and what it can be used for, otherwise it will be yet another expensive failed product that is later followed by another company *cough* Apple *cough* copying the idea and actually making money on it. If Microsoft used Age of Ultron, Minority Report, Ghost in the Shell, or whatever for marketing material; it would create unrealistic expectations as what the Hololens can do or who it is for. Once the Hololens actually shipped there would be mass disillusion and everyone would be so mad that it couldn't do what they dreamed it could do that people would forget what it was still actually useful for.

    The Hololens is literally the future, but you still need to keep realistic expectations.
    05-12-2015 08:53 AM
  19. Motor_Mouth's Avatar
    I don't think Tesla Roadster created too much demand for anything. In the two years it was on sale in Australia, I think they sold 4. EV-1 was never meant to be a success, it was simply GM's response to California's absurd effort to legislate the future into existence before the technology was ready. And for the record, in the early 1900's there were as many electric cars as petrol-powered ones, it's not anything new at all.

    When did Microsoft have a touchscreen tablet computer before Surface? If you are talking about the original Surface, now called PixelSense, it was never a computer, simply a ginormous display that had to be connected to a PC. It was also 40 grand when they launched it. I don't think they ever expected too many people to buy it but we have one at work.

    Microsoft have very clearly shown HoloLens's "capabilities and what it can be used for". It is a Windows 10 PC, capable of running any universal app without the need to specifically develop for the platform. If you don't know what Windows PCs are capable of by now, I don't think Microsoft's explaining it is going to help.

    If Microsoft used Age of Ultron, Minority Report, Ghost in the Shell, or whatever for marketing material; it would create unrealistic expectations as what the Hololens can do or who it is for.
    Why? HoloLens is more than capable of doing all of those kinds of things, without fancy glass screens or stupid gloves. If anything, using those films as examples would be underselling HoloLens. In fact, those films show just where HoloLens is really such a compelling device. Where they imagined we'd still need to define parameters to make it all work - glass screens and gloves to track finger/hand movement, HoloLens has shown us that it can dispense with all of that because it can "see" the environment and literally interact with it.

    Humans are curious monkeys and I reckon that will be key to HoloLens's success. Imagine the first time you see someone using one in the wild, maybe sitting on the train or bus on the way to work. It won't be like the first time you saw an iPad and you could discreetly peer over the user's shoulder to see what he was doing. With HoloLens you'll have someone who can see stuff that nobody else can. It will be so frustrating for everyone else that a lot of people will just HAVE to have one of their own so they can see what's going on. Until they have competition it will drive sales, no matter the price.
    05-12-2015 07:43 PM
  20. grahamf's Avatar
    Again, there's a big difference. Hololens is still not powerful enough to do everything you're dreaming of. And I never said the Windows tablets were made by Microsoft.
    05-12-2015 11:04 PM
  21. Motor_Mouth's Avatar
    Of course it is. It is running the new Cherry Trail Atom SoC, which means 80% more graphics performance than my Thinkpad 8. Given that my Thinkpad 8 can already do all of those things and a whole heap more, I think I have a very firm grasp of what HoloLens will be capable of doing for me. I don't play games, I don't do YouTube or Netflix, I use my PC to get work done. All I want to do is sit on a bus with a window open in front of me and do all the same things I do on my PC now - email, surf the web, listen to music, create a bit of music, do some design work. I have no expectation of it revolutionising what I use my PC for, just how and where I use it.
    05-13-2015 08:47 PM
  22. grahamf's Avatar
    Then riddle me this: Why does an Oculus Rift need a very powerful system with dedicated graphics to do less then what you're dreaming the Hololens can do? All your movie examples are created by very powerful computers, and they take as long as they need to process everything as opposed to having to render live.
    05-13-2015 10:25 PM
  23. Motor_Mouth's Avatar
    Because Oculus Rift is made for fully immersive gaming, it needs to be able to draw realtime ray-traced shadows, plus particle effects and everything else we all expect from a top-shelf gaming experience today. HoloLens doesn't need to do any of that. And where Rift has to draw every single pixel, HoloLens just has to draw a few things for you to see and interact with. I'll give you an example. This is a PNG image without a background -
    ironman-1.png
    It is just 117kb because the PNG format is smart enough not to save information for pixels that are cut-out by the alpha channel. This next one is the same picture, except I have added a background -
    ironman-2.png
    You can see that, because it includes a full background, it is 770kb, more than six times larger, even though I used exactly the same settings when saving each. That gives you some idea of how much harder it is to render every pixel in a scene instead of just the "hero" elements.
    05-17-2015 07:52 PM
  24. Somna's Avatar
    GM made the first electric car but it was a market failure, and later on the Tesla Roadster came along and created demand for electric cars.
    Market failure? Um.. you may want to look at that one again. Not exactly the thread for it, but GM was forced to make them, refused to sell them at any price, and when people's leases were up, took them back and literally buried them. The market loved them, GM did not.
    calfee20 likes this.
    07-31-2015 09:26 PM

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