1. just_telling_ithow_it_is's Avatar
    This is a controversial topic but this holographic technology is a precursor to the famous 'mark of the beast' prophecy of the bible.

    Most attention to this prophecy has been in the number and mark '666'. However the other interesting part of this prophecy is the image of the beast. Note here:

    And he deceives those who dwell on the earth because of the signs which it was given him to perform in the presence of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the beast who had the wound of the sword and has come to life.

    15 And it was given to him to give breath to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast would even speak and cause as many as do not worship the image of the beast to be killed.

    So what we have with hololens is a precursor to acceptance of this technology. Heck look at the promo video - showing aliens jumping out of your walls running around your living room and amusing you. Talk about deceiving spirits!

    And also take note that whenever you put this thing in microsoft et al. can see and hear and notice exactly what you are paying attention to.
    01-22-2015 08:13 PM
  2. asa2015's Avatar
    You realize that the "mark of the beast" is something that is engraved into your skin, not something that you are able to remove at will?
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    01-22-2015 08:19 PM
  3. Long Syntax's Avatar
    Your tinfoil hat is picking up the wrong station. Try another one.
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    01-22-2015 08:20 PM
  4. just_telling_ithow_it_is's Avatar
    You realize that the "mark of the beast" is something that is engraved into your skin, not something that you are able to remove at will?
    we dont know for sure. it might be a marker that hololens v6.66 uses as the AR marker.

    That way when you look at a crowd of people you will see who is in and who is out
    01-22-2015 08:26 PM
  5. davidofmidnight's Avatar
    I can't take Revelations seriously - for me, it reads as one awesome acid trip. But, yeah, the Mark is supposedly physical.

    Revelation 13:16-18
    Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked on the right hand or the forehead, so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name. This calls for wisdom: let the one who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and his number is 666.
    01-22-2015 08:34 PM
  6. NIST's Avatar
    You do realize there was no number 6 during that time period right? But then again there was no later J so I have no idea where they came up with the word Jesus either.
    01-22-2015 08:37 PM
  7. Ordeith's Avatar
    I always thought the chrome logo looked like a 666 arranged in a circle. :)
    01-22-2015 08:38 PM
  8. MrBlu3's Avatar
    Can't tell if trolling, or genuinely stupid enough to believe this crap...
    01-22-2015 08:38 PM
  9. onysi's Avatar
    while we're on this topic, illuminati.
    01-22-2015 08:41 PM
  10. Blacklac's Avatar
    I can't take Revelations seriously - for me, it reads as one awesome acid trip. But, yeah, the Mark is supposedly physical.

    Revelation 13:16-18
    Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked on the right hand or the forehead, so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name. This calls for wisdom: let the one who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and his number is 666.
    That just seems inevitable. Not really sure why its evil.
    01-22-2015 08:48 PM
  11. davidofmidnight's Avatar
    That just seems inevitable. Not really sure why its evil.
    Early second century anti-Roman propaganda I think. (I'm not really sure of the historical context or it's origins, but I think that's the only way to read it.)
    01-22-2015 09:00 PM
  12. asa2015's Avatar
    Actually the number six was used when explaining Satan. And as for the letter J that letter came from being translated from Hebrew to English.
    01-22-2015 09:17 PM
  13. Jas00555's Avatar
    I mean, I've heard people call Microsoft evil, but this is going a little too far....
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    01-22-2015 09:22 PM
  14. tgp's Avatar
    Throughout history, lots of innovations have been called the mark of the beast. You can get "666" out of almost anything. The "www" in the URL has been called it. Ha, I remember things like the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001 have been linked to it. I mean, think about it: take the 9 for September and add it to 11(th) and then divide by 10 (AM) and multiply by 3 (Tuesday is the 3rd day of the week) and you get a 6. Then take 2001, the digits add up to 3 so take 3 6's and there you go, 666! (I made that all up as I went along!)
    01-22-2015 09:38 PM
  15. PachecoCorporationCeo's Avatar
    while we're on this topic, illuminati.
    Omg lmao
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    01-22-2015 09:40 PM
  16. savagelizards's Avatar
    ...said no one, ever.
    01-22-2015 09:40 PM
  17. PachecoCorporationCeo's Avatar
    Throughout history, lots of innovations have been called the mark of the beast. You can get "666" out of almost anything. The "www" in the URL has been called it. Ha, I remember things like the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001 have been linked to it. I mean, think about it: take the 9 for September and add it to 11(th) and then divide by 10 (AM) and multiply by 3 (Tuesday is the 3rd day of the week) and you get a 6. Then take 2001, the digits add up to 3 so take 3 6's and there you go, 666! (I made that all up as I went along!)
    Or the 6/6/06 I remember I loled
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    01-22-2015 09:41 PM
  18. Jas00555's Avatar
    Throughout history, lots of innovations have been called the mark of the beast. You can get "666" out of almost anything. The "www" in the URL has been called it. Ha, I remember things like the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001 have been linked to it. I mean, think about it: take the 9 for September and add it to 11(th) and then divide by 10 (AM) and multiply by 3 (Tuesday is the 3rd day of the week) and you get a 6. Then take 2001, the digits add up to 3 so take 3 6's and there you go, 666! (I made that all up as I went along!)
    Then Half-Life 3 gets released?
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    01-22-2015 09:50 PM
  19. Dradzk's Avatar
    This is a controversial topic but this holographic technology is a precursor to the famous 'mark of the beast' prophecy of the bible.
    Unfortunately this kind of view seems to be quite common whenever new technology comes out. It seems to stem from a poor understanding of Scriptures, especially in the context of history.

    I don't think the argument can be made that the mark is physical, nor can one equate these virtual images to spirits. Yes I believe Revelation to be true, no I don't think you can tie this into it. We can talk hermeneutics if you want, but I will leave it at that for now.

    As for what you said about Microsoft seeing whatever you see when you put this on, I had to stop and think, 'why do I tend to trust Microsoft more than some other companies such as say Google, especially in the wake of all the nsa stuff that went down?' Most of these different technologies that are being developed are quite cool and have a lot of potential to help aid people in their lives tremendously. Put in the wrong hands, they also have the potential to do a lot of harm.

    In the matter of the government, while I believe the principle of what they are doing is wrong and I believe they should stop, pragmatically I know that if they want info on you there is nothing you can do about it. Why should I avoid seriously cool and/or time saving things like the latest tablet, Cortana, Google Now, email, electronic banking, the Hololense, etc, if there is little to nothing you can do to cause the government to start or stop collecting your info if they don't want to?

    As for why I prefer Microsoft over Google, I decided that the main reason is that Microsoft wants to sell me a product. Google wants me as their product. Google has cool items too, I'd just rather not have all the info I've trusted to them sold to the highest bidder.

    Posted via my HTC One (M7)
    01-22-2015 09:59 PM
  20. Jazmac's Avatar
    This is a controversial topic but this holographic technology is a precursor to the famous 'mark of the beast' prophecy of the bible.

    Most attention to this prophecy has been in the number and mark '666'. However the other interesting part of this prophecy is the image of the beast. Note here:

    And he deceives those who dwell on the earth because of the signs which it was given him to perform in the presence of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the beast who had the wound of the sword and has come to life.

    15 And it was given to him to give breath to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast would even speak and cause as many as do not worship the image of the beast to be killed.

    So what we have with hololens is a precursor to acceptance of this technology. Heck look at the promo video - showing aliens jumping out of your walls running around your living room and amusing you. Talk about deceiving spirits!

    And also take note that whenever you put this thing in microsoft et al. can see and hear and notice exactly what you are paying attention to.
    Famous Mark of the beast? Seriously. Look Copernicus, With the talk about Star Wars and SDI back in the day I heard the same thing about Ronald Wilson Reagan that he was supposed to be have the mark of the beast. Something about the number of his name being 666. Ronald (6) Wilson (6) Reagan (6) Somehow didn't quite pan out like you thought.
    Then came Pastor Camping's rapture claims which didn't do much but make him 72 million now here you go again with Hololens. I think you need to quit trying to create hysteria over a technology that will come and go like every new technology. Its not that serious.
    01-22-2015 11:05 PM
  21. Roderick Aspiras's Avatar
    I always thought embedded chips was the mark of the beast?
    01-22-2015 11:07 PM
  22. PepperdotNet's Avatar
    All this is, is another tool that can be used for good or evil purposes. It's the human that determines that, not the technology.

    For me, just a thing to make using technology less complicated, so I can focus on important things instead of figuring out which application or OS feature I have to beat into submission in order to get my work done today.

    A medical professional will use it to control a probe inside the patient's body cutting out the cancerous tumor, an architect will use it to build a mock up of his latest project, lonely people *cough* perverts *cough* will have interactive porn, and a terrorist cell will practice beheading and blowing-stuff-up techniques. So it is with all tools, it's up to people to decide what to use them for.

    When they try to pass the law requiring implantation of some device in every human's body for purposes of identification or commerce, be very wary.
    01-22-2015 11:24 PM
  23. Polychrome's Avatar
    I can't take Revelations seriously - for me, it reads as one awesome acid trip. But, yeah, the Mark is supposedly physical.
    If we're getting technical, Revelations was most likely about the Roman Empire, and 666 = Nero, who was a notoriously huge jerk of a politician. Personally I see it as a cycle of the rise and fall of great civilizations, because it seems like we, as a species, keep making the same mistakes. We grow and prosper, we get accustomed to a life of easy civilization, we get full of ourselves, we turn into entitled creeps, and then we all kill each other before the whole process starts anew with whoever's left over. Many huge conflicts of the past were thought to be Armageddon, until things calmed down... You know what they say about those who don't remember history.

    Anywho, there's obviously no connection, and most of us can agree. Requiring a special identification or "mark" to buy and sell would be more in line with big-brother practices, hive minds, and oppressive dictatorships (not that we're that far off right now) than having a head-computer as a convenience and entertainment.
    01-23-2015 01:09 AM
  24. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    WindowsCentral is not the place to discuss/debate religion. Therefore, this thread is now closed.
    Guytronic, Jazmac, Muessig and 4 others like this.
    01-23-2015 01:48 AM

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