12-31-2015 02:49 PM
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  1. Marc Guillet's Avatar
    The Microsoft site lists Band 12 support. Everything I have read about the AT&T branded phone suggests that AT&T disabled Band 12 support on its ROM. I just ordered from Best Buy but I'll pay $10 more if the phone from Microsoft does not contain the AT&T ROM. So does anyone know if the phone via Microsoft will support Band 12 for T-Mobile?
    I purchased the phone from the MS store last week. $39.00. I removed the sim from the phone when I received it. Went to the AT&T unlock website. Clicked not an AT&T customer. Put my info in. The IMEI #. Received confirmation. 3 days later I unlocked the phone from the dial pas. #7820##. Input the code and aim unlocked. Reading the package insert I shows LTE band 12 is in use on the handset. I places my T-Mobile sim in the phone. Went to the T-Mobile site and changed my phone to the 640. I can confirm visual voicemail and LTE band 12 is working. Download speeds approaching 60mbs. I was astonished with the speed. My 925 peaked out at 25mps. Very happy I made the purchase. Quality device and a fantastic price.
    Last edited by RumoredNow; 11-29-2015 at 05:11 PM. Reason: consolidate 2 posts
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    11-29-2015 02:31 PM
  2. jaceot's Avatar
    Band 12 is not listed as active on the phone itself right? so you guys are just basing this on your download speed?
    11-29-2015 05:10 PM
  3. RumoredNow's Avatar
    Band 17 (narrower range - ATT) is a subset of Band 12 (broader range - T-Mo). There may be some interoperability there.

    Also, access to Field Test may show unlockable frequencies/bands. See this thread for a guide: http://forums.windowscentral.com/nok...-band-4-a.html The linked thread is about AWS Bands on H+, but the tutorial holds for LTE bands as well.
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    11-29-2015 05:16 PM
  4. Bob Hanson's Avatar
    Thanks for that info!
    11-29-2015 05:46 PM
  5. Marc Guillet's Avatar
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    Band 12 is not listed as active on the phone itself right? so you guys are just basing this on your download speed?
    It is listed in the product safety guide. I attached a snap shot. Also listed on the MS product info page. There are two versions. Look for LTE band 12. The $39 linked here has LTE band 12 listed. T-Mobile in my area has the advanced LTE band. My 925 does not have band 12.

    See 12 and 17? Full compatibility with T-Mobile advanced LTE
    Last edited by RumoredNow; 11-29-2015 at 08:09 PM. Reason: consolidate 2 posts
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    11-29-2015 07:34 PM
  6. nick inasaridze's Avatar
    hey man did you unlocked the phone?
    11-30-2015 10:46 AM
  7. PepperdotNet's Avatar
    I can confirm that at the physical Best Buy near me, people don't go looking for Windows phones and there was no danger of running out. They had, literally, a couple of huge garbage bins full of them.

    It was actually more like $35 once they scanned it, added tax and some bogus "911" fee.

    Still waiting on the unlock code though it was late Friday evening when I submitted the request.
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    11-30-2015 10:55 AM
  8. Skyway's Avatar
    I can confirm that at the physical Best Buy near me, people don't go looking for Windows phones and there was no danger of running out. They had, literally, a couple of huge garbage bins full of them.

    It was actually more like $35 once they scanned it, added tax and some bogus "911" fee.

    Still waiting on the unlock code though it was late Friday evening when I submitted the request.
    I'm on vacation in Boston and wanted to pick one up for my brother for Christmas. I went to the local BB and they were all sold out. I waited around to ask someone if they had more, but it was a mad house there (this was on Saturday) and got sick of waiting. I ended up buying one off of MS's site.

    He has a 635 right now and I'm hoping this will be a good upgrade for him.
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    11-30-2015 10:59 AM
  9. RumoredNow's Avatar
    He has a 635 right now and I'm hoping this will be a good upgrade for him.
    I would say yes.

    Nokia Lumia 635 vs. Microsoft Lumia 640 LTE - GSMArena.com

    Bigger screen and higher ppi alone is a huge upgrade.
    1GB RAM will give him a boost.
    Add in a better camera experience plus more battery endurance and Bob's your uncle.
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    11-30-2015 12:10 PM
  10. pseudoware's Avatar
    You can unlock it for FREE, and many people have reported that this particular AT&T Lumia 640 works in many countries outside the US, and I've done it myself!

    Here is the screenshot of the procedures to get free unlock code from AT&T - the exact same procedures that I and hundreds (if not thousands) of people have gone through and successfully gotten the code for FREE!
    OK, I was able to unlock it based on this process. Thanks, man! My 640 is now on T-Mobile.

    It's funny, AT&T sent me a msg over the wknd saying my request needed "further investigation." I thought it wasn't going to happen.
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    11-30-2015 04:06 PM
  11. cckgz4's Avatar
    Oh I hopped on this. Wasn't even an option. I had to use my old 520 as a phone to hold me over (was waiting on insurance replacement), and that was HELL. This will be the same concept, maybe a weekend device
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    11-30-2015 06:52 PM
  12. MaryJane197's Avatar
    Where did you get your dual SIM?
    11-30-2015 10:55 PM
  13. editguy's Avatar
    OK, I was able to unlock it based on this process. Thanks, man! My 640 is now on T-Mobile.

    It's funny, AT&T sent me a msg over the wknd saying my request needed "further investigation." I thought it wasn't going to happen.
    I got that message from AT&T over the weekend, too, but still no unlock code. I'm beginning to doubt that they're going to give it to me. You give me a little hope, though. I want it as a backup phone.
    12-01-2015 02:32 AM
  14. MaryJane197's Avatar
    I already activated mine on my contract account. I'm wondering if they will unlock mine. I'm going to the UK in February so I would like a unlocked phone. ATT said they have a cheap International package I could buy for cheap but I'm afraid to believe that it wont run up my bill. They've lied to me alot.
    12-01-2015 07:49 AM
  15. libra89's Avatar
    I already activated mine on my contract account. I'm wondering if they will unlock mine. I'm going to the UK in February so I would like a unlocked phone. ATT said they have a cheap International package I could buy for cheap but I'm afraid to believe that it wont run up my bill. They've lied to me alot.
    If you tell them that you are traveling, they kind of have no choice but to do it. I think it will work in your favor that you are not a new customer. Good luck.
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    12-01-2015 08:25 AM
  16. etad putta's Avatar
    I already activated mine on my contract account. I'm wondering if they will unlock mine. I'm going to the UK in February so I would like a unlocked phone. ATT said they have a cheap International package I could buy for cheap but I'm afraid to believe that it wont run up my bill. They've lied to me alot.
    I had a 640 AT&Tgophone on one of my 9 lines with AT&T for about 2 months. My phone swapping addiction caused me to remove it for another device. Before I did, I requested an unlock from AT&T and it was granted within a day or two.
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    12-01-2015 12:35 PM
  17. LumiaGuy's Avatar
    Hmm - guess I was one of the first who placed an order with BB after the BF pricing went live. My order for three 640's was placed on Nov 25th @ 10:42pm and delivery to me here in Northern California is expected to be on Tuesday Dec. 1st.
    ARRRGHHHHH!!!

    I so hate UPS SurePost shipping - was supposed to get my phones today and now I see they've changed the "expected" delivery date to tomorrow. I can't wait to retire my old L520!
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    12-01-2015 01:41 PM
  18. ML10's Avatar
    ARRRGHHHHH!!!

    I so hate UPS SurePost shipping - was supposed to get my phones today and now I see they've changed the "expected" delivery date to tomorrow. I can't wait to retire my old L520!
    I feel your pain!! Had a 521 with broken volume rocker and waiting for my 640 felt like an eternity.
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    12-01-2015 01:44 PM
  19. LumiaGuy's Avatar
    Success!

    Saw UPS had handed off my package to my Post Office so I called over to see if I could pop in a pick it up rather than wait for them to deliver it tomorrow. YES - will have my new phones in about 15 minutes!
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    12-01-2015 04:44 PM
  20. MaryJane197's Avatar
    Ive only had my contract for 4 months. I had USCC before ATT. But ive called in multiple times and asked them about traveling to the UK.
    12-01-2015 05:27 PM
  21. pseudoware's Avatar
    Nothing to contribute, just trying Tapatalk on my new 640 ☺
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    12-01-2015 05:38 PM
  22. MaryJane197's Avatar
    I went ahead and put in a request to unlock my 640. We will see what they say to me.
    12-01-2015 05:53 PM
  23. pseudoware's Avatar
    I went ahead and put in a request to unlock my 640. We will see what they say to me.

    Good luck with that. Before I knew that AT&T method would work, I bought a code on eBay for $1.99. I got it a day after AT&T gave it to me. Same code.
    12-01-2015 06:10 PM
  24. MaryJane197's Avatar
    Good luck with that. Before I knew that AT&T method would work, I bought a code on eBay for $1.99. I got it a day after AT&T gave it to me. Same code.
    They already responded to me with a big fat NO lol. Said i havent had my contract long enough. Oh well. Im going to look on ebay for that unlock code.....
    12-01-2015 06:12 PM
  25. pseudoware's Avatar
    They already responded to me with a big fat NO lol. Said i havent had my contract long enough. Oh well. Im going to look on ebay for that unlock code.....

    Sorry. The eBay seller I used is "buyandtry2014"
    12-01-2015 06:15 PM
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