1. CoopII's Avatar
    Looking at the spec's they seem very comparable so it seems like a lateral move to the 650 and not so much an upgrade. But would benefit from the newer hardware and fresh new battery?

    Any opinions?
    04-01-2016 09:52 AM
  2. TheChazas's Avatar
    Depends on User and usage, it is decent, good phone, plenty enough.
    04-01-2016 09:56 AM
  3. CoopII's Avatar
    I am not a heavy user I text play the odd game use a few apps take a couple pictures and sync to my MS band. I seldom use the phone for talking and don't load or listen to music on it. My major issue with the 920 is the battery life (I know I can always replace the Battery) and the slowness to open text messaging app running Win 10.

    I guess I am most curious is the performance in day to day use better with the 650 over the 920?
    04-01-2016 10:56 AM
  4. P1ng0fDeath's Avatar
    I am not a heavy user I text play the odd game use a few apps take a couple pictures and sync to my MS band. I seldom use the phone for talking and don't load or listen to music on it. My major issue with the 920 is the battery life (I know I can always replace the Battery) and the slowness to open text messaging app running Win 10.

    I guess I am most curious is the performance in day to day use better with the 650 over the 920?
    Yes, because it's newer hardware. I'm not even sure that the 920 will get W10M "officially". Based on your usage description, I think the 650 will be good enough.
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    04-01-2016 11:10 AM
  5. CoopII's Avatar
    yes I am running the preview build of W10 as it the only version available for my phone.

    I may check this phone out if it doesn't suit my needs I am sure my Son would enjoy a new phone he is still on the 625.

    I'd like to get the 950 but don't want to spend that kind of money on a phone right now with the Canadian Dollar so low.

    Thanks
    Last edited by CoopII; 04-01-2016 at 11:22 AM. Reason: SP
    04-01-2016 11:22 AM
  6. xandros9's Avatar
    Current phones will definitely be better if than the 920 in the battery life department, by in this case you're giving up Qi as well as the excellent camera. The 650's camera isn't bad, but it just isn't as good as the 920's.

    I think your best call is the Lumia 830, 930 or 950.
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    04-01-2016 11:23 AM
  7. TheChazas's Avatar
    640 XL still is a very good phone too, sad that they cancelled 650XL, 850.
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    04-01-2016 03:48 PM
  8. js-playround's Avatar
    I picked on up this Friday to replace my 920 with w10 on it and after a weekend with it I'm pretty satisfied with it. It runs w10 infinitely better than my 920 ever did. The camera is decent in daylight, but nothing to right home about in low-light settings, but with flash on it can get the job done - I will say that not having a physical camera button after all these years is a little disappointing and I personally do miss it, as it made things like group selfies so much easier to keep the phone steady. One thing I did notice is that my phone does get a little warm when running Skype (I suggest using messaging + skype app) but otherwise I haven't this with any other apps thus far.

    For the price, I think the 650 is a pretty solid buy and worth getting as a replacement for an aging 920. I got mine as a stop gap for the potential surface phone/next gen High end Lumia's and because I really needed a new phone. Hope this info us helpful!

    P.s. if you get the 650, be warned that the weight difference between 650 and the 920 is a little jarring at first as the 650 is insanely light in comparison - It was a windy day on Friday when I picked it up and I was terrified it was going to blow out of my hand!
    Last edited by Guytronic; 04-03-2016 at 10:39 PM.
    04-03-2016 10:09 PM
  9. XToro's Avatar
    Getting my 650 today to replace my 920. Very excited! Comparing my 920 with W10M to videos of the 650, it looks like the 650 is much faster than my 920. I'll find out today!
    04-04-2016 10:55 AM
  10. CoopII's Avatar
    Thanks both of you. I am leaning towards picking this up at the price point its at. Just as a stop gap till the Surface phone comes out or the 950 goes on a major sale.

    Glad to hear what you think once you get it as well.
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    04-04-2016 06:06 PM
  11. XToro's Avatar
    Well, I've had my 650 for 5 days now. I can't say enough good things about it. Keep in mind that my 920 had W10M installed which ran slower than WP 8.1. The difference in weight, size, build quality, speed and battery life make my 920 feel a few years older than it really is. The 650 is very snappy to respond to touch and performs most tasks faster than the 920. I've read some places that going 920->650 is more of a "sidegrade" than an upgrade, which I was initially worried about. But I can confidently say that the 650 is definitely an upgrade from the 920.

    The only feature that I don't have, which the 920 had, is the wireless charging. However, I stopped using wireless charging about 6 months ago for a few reasons. For one, my wife kind of took over the wireless charging pad for her Lumia 830 because I started plugging in my phone sometimes. The reason I started plugging in my phone is because some night it just wouldn't charge properly. I would hear the phone's charging tone every couple of minutes like it wasn't making good contact, no matter how many times I re-centered the phone. Also, sometimes my cats would move it, either by walking by it, or playing with it. Either way, it would get moved enough to stop charging.

    Another thing I was concerned about on the 650 was the lack of physical buttons. The back, Windows and search buttons are instead on-screen. I actually don't mind it at all. And I think it might be even less work for the battery this way because there are no extra buttons to light up or have to monitor for touches. The OS is quite smart in hiding the navigation bar when needed. When viewing fullscreen pics or videos in landscape mode, the nav bar hides. Touching the screen or exiting fullscreen video brings back the bar. You can also swipe into the bottom edge of the screen to show/hide the bar manually anytime.

    While on the subject of the screen, it's an OLED, and it looks amazing! Especially in lower light conditions where you can truly see the blackness of blacks giving you that infinite contrast that only OLED screens can do. Don't get me wrong, the 920 had a great screen too, but this one looks sharper, brighter, more vibrant. Another advantage of OLED is the glance screen. I had the glance screen on my 920 set to only stay on for a time, and then shut off. This is because of the IPS LCD screen. On the 920, the entire screen's backlight has to come on at a low level, and the entire screen has to go black, except for the text (this is how LCDs work). This way is a big drain on the battery because you're using the entire screen, and backlighting it. The 650's OLED screen on the other hand is much more efficient. OLED screens light each pixel individually because each pixel is a light source. So for the glance screen, only the pixels that are actually displaying the text are "on", and dimly lit. This uses MUCH less battery. In fact, since I got the phone, I set my glance screen to "always on", and I'm quite impressed with the battery life.

    Battery life. In short, twice as good as my 920. However, my battery life suffered since installing W10M on the 920. But even with WP 8.1, the 650 still beats the 920 by almost double. With average use of texting, e-mails and browsing, my 920 would be around 20% or less by 6PM. My 650 on the other hand, is still at 50-60% by 8PM. I could probably get 2 full work days out of the 650's battery with less usage. The 650 also charges up quicker than the 920 ever did. I should also mention that my 920 was a European model, so LTE never worked in Canada because of the different frequencies. LTE on the 650 works great and it's very fast. But, this again shines light on the battery life issue. The 920 not using LTE should be using less battery than the 650 does using LTE, but the 650 still last much much longer.

    I really do recommend it, especially for the price. I could go on and on about everything about the 650 but I realize now that I'm rambling on quite a bit and this post is getting quite long lol
    04-08-2016 11:55 AM
  12. P1ng0fDeath's Avatar
    Glad you liked it! It's indeed a beautiful phone. And boy, sometimes I still miss Glance screen...
    04-08-2016 08:43 PM
  13. CoopII's Avatar
    Thanks a lot for all the info. I am glad to hear it works so well compared to the 920. I think I will pick this up even as a bridge phone till something better comes along.

    I was tempted with the $200 cash back on my 920 if I bought the 950. But still a little bit much for what I wanted to spend.
    04-18-2016 11:09 AM

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