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  1. NokianWP's Avatar
    Sounds like a pretty solid device. Hopeful for removable battery+MsD slot, 64gb option and qi wireless charging. Give me those, and I'll be a happy consumer!!
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    06-07-2015 06:24 AM
  2. hiya15's Avatar
    Real or fake, when they announce specs for their next high end device it can be made of adamantium steel and drive your car for you and people still wouldn't be satisfied,
    Completely with you on this one, its very hard to satisfy everyone. There are always a group of people who want something that others dont.
    06-07-2015 10:13 AM
  3. Jezza's Avatar
    A few pics to wet the appetite!!
    As nice as that looks, I have very high doubts the phone would resemble this. It doesn't look practical enough in my opinion.
    06-07-2015 10:48 AM
  4. peachy001's Avatar
    As someone who is thinking about giving Windows phone one last chance I really hope that the phones will come with AMOLED display. The displays in the latest Samsung flagships really are in a class of their own! I currently use the S6 edge and the display is ridiculous.
    Galaxy S6 display is "best ever" on a smartphone | Alphr
    A friend of mine has one, and the screen is very nice. But I always fancied an IPS one.
    06-07-2015 10:50 AM
  5. tangledW's Avatar
    What does the internal storage matter if you can expand with an SD card?
    A lot.

    App performance is far greater when stored on the phone rather than ext. storage.
    EssThree, aximtreo and James8561 like this.
    06-07-2015 11:02 AM
  6. MadDogFL62's Avatar
    Chill. It will be an exclusive release to only 1 US Carrier. Then, Verizon will want their own version 2 to 4 months later. Then the $50 variants will start coming out 6 months later, but only to 1 or 2 other carriers. THIS exclusivity practice will be the demise of Lumia. (I'll leave buggy and overcomplicated OS and APP gap out of the equation.)
    sweatshopking likes this.
    06-07-2015 11:55 AM
  7. heickelrrx's Avatar
    And so Verizon Version will called Lumia ICON X meh :v
    06-07-2015 12:15 PM
  8. Keith Wallace's Avatar
    Iris scanning will be just like Cortana for me - useless. It's personal preference. I don't think it will matter to anyone who doesn't want to use it.
    Agreed. My main complaint is that these flagships are focusing on fluff over universal improvements. An iris scanner is just a new thing that underwhelms in reality, IMO, like Kinect. I'd much rather see that hardware cost put into things like better storage or faster chips, just as I think that a big number of console consumers would have rather paid $500 for an Xbox One with a better APU, rather than getting an underutilized Kinect.

    So, while use is ultimately just a preference thing you can choose to engage in or not, the problem is that the R&D and device costs are going towards things that many won't care about, and the rest of the device's underwhelming nature is likely a direct result of that.
    peachy001 and sweatshopking like this.
    06-07-2015 12:56 PM
  9. peachy001's Avatar
    Good point, well put. While I'd like to see it in action, it certainly was not a feature I would want. Particularly as it will likely have meant a cut elsewhere. Decent screen (1080 is high enough, but let it be top notch), decent battery, high end processor, RAM and components.
    06-07-2015 02:13 PM
  10. eb110americana's Avatar
    Overall, the specs sound good--and what I would expect. I hope the rumors of decontenting the regular "940" below the XL are not true. Obviously the screen will be smaller, as well as the battery, but I'd hope they'd keep the same capabilities in two sizes. I'll probably get the XL anyway, as I use my phone rather than a laptop or tablet when I am on the go, but I'd like that option for others.

    If they stick with 32GB storage, they had better have a micro SD card slot. As those things have gotten so cheap, even at 128GB, I don't see why not simply hardwire one into the onboard storage and be done with it. That is one way to one-up the competition. All flagship Microsoft Lumia/Surface phones come standard with 128GB built in, no extra charge.

    The camera is another area where Lumia phones have traditionally lead the pack. No one can yet challenge the 1020. 20MP will probably be fine (hopefully not 15MP+5MP images for every shot), and the Carl Zeiss optics will likely be excellent. Still, Microsoft could have looked at dropping the 1020 cam, intact, into this phone--or a special variant of it. I know several people with 1020s, who got them simply for the camera, and who still use the phones everyday. I also hope the triple flash is better than the double-LED unit on my 925. The light distribution is terrible, as too much is focused on the center and it rapidly fades out from there. My friend's single-LED Galaxy S2 easily puts it to shame. Why no Xenon flash?

    I know some don't like the trend to larger screens, but I think it is inevitable, and functional. The sizes chosen for the 940 and XL seem ideal. I don't agree with the QHD display res though. I think that will just eat battery life and tax the processor in order to drive more pixels. I doubt that anyone would be able to see a difference compared to 1080p at that size. It's just good bragging rights. I really don't get the demand for IPS LCD displays. Some of the best screens out there now are from Samsung (S6, Note) and they are S-AMOLED. I have AMOLED on my 925, been using it for 2 years and have no issues with screen burn in, and sunlight readability is good (the biggest knock against it is the terrible WP brightness control that everyone hates). AMOLED has better, darker blacks, more vibrant colors, and is thinner (if it bends, the support needs to be thicker, not the screen). Glance screen is also tailor made for AMOLED, as it only turns on individual pixels, saving battery life. IPS needs to power up the whole backlight for Glance.

    Having the latest-greatest SoC and more RAM is good, but so long as we can waive goodbye to the ever-present "Resuming..." messages, and the camera launches within 1 second instead of 10, I think most people will be happy. WP has always run faster and more efficiently on the same hardware, so it will likely leave little performance on the table. Perhaps an updated model could come out down the road with the 820 SoC, a-la the "S" model iPhones. Ultimately, if it runs fast and is thin, people will be impressed.

    I'm very excited about Continuum, and hope that there will be more opportunities to use it on the phone. A built-in N-trig pen would be great. I currently don't use a password on my phone, as I find unlocking it every time to be tedious (I'll just lock it remotely, if I lose it). This could make the iris scanner a convenient solution for me if it doesn't introduce a significant delay. And USB type-C: time to get all new chargers! (At least we won't have to play the "flip it this way or that way" game anymore.) I definitely want wireless charging too. Very useful in the car for NAV so that you don't have to put the phone in the cradle AND plug it in (also, much neater without the extra cables, if you wire it up right). GM cars are starting to build in wireless charging for phones if you put them in the console too.
    peachy001 likes this.
    06-07-2015 03:27 PM
  11. peachy001's Avatar
    I would fully expect that screen size will not be the only differential between the phones. The 640 devices have significant differences, aside from screen size, and I expect the Cityman and Talkman to follow that trend.

    You have warmed me to the Amoled screen. And I agree about the 1080p bit.

    I have seen rumours that Continuum and the iris scanning are for the 5.7 device only. Which is a pity.

    I don't like the idea of a 940 S, as that would cheese off much of the user base, including me. I'd love the 820 inside, and would wait until November for that. Xioami are rumoured to be launching an 820 device in November.

    Can I make the leap to 5.7inches though?
    eb110americana likes this.
    06-07-2015 03:50 PM
  12. bo_woods's Avatar
    A friend of mine has one, and the screen is very nice. But I always fancied an IPS one.
    I agree. Manufacturers Cain tweak/modify/improve IPS LCD displays to achieve AMOLED colors, and deep blacks. This is clearly evident in phones like the Nokia Lumia 1520, and that device came out late 2013. Just imagine how great the Nokia/Microsoft team can make an IPS LCD display in 2015.

    On the other hand the issues with AMOLED displays are somewhat harder to work with. With AMOLED displays there is the possibility of Screen Burn/Ghosting, More energy consumption unless over a black background, and less sharpness/crispness compared to LCD.

    I personally don't care what screen tech they go with, just as long as they do some improvements with the two issues LCD displays have, or the three issues AMOLED displays seem to have
    06-07-2015 04:18 PM
  13. eb110americana's Avatar
    I have seen rumours that Continuum and the iris scanning are for the 5.7 device only. Which is a pity.

    I don't like the idea of a 940 S, as that would cheese off much of the user base, including me. I'd love the 820 inside, and would wait until November for that. Xioami are rumoured to be launching an 820 device in November.
    If that is the case, the 820 would make more sense, but the consensus seemed to be that we wouldn't see 820 devices until roughly 6 months after the 940/XL. November (possibly even December) seems likely timing for new flagships with Win 10. Due to the Nokia>Microsoft changeover, we have been without a flagship for too long, and I think all would agree that delaying another half-year is out of the question. In that case, the next-best solution would be a mid-cycle upgrade. They often do this with tablets and laptops, frequently without even advertising the changeover. "940 S" is merely a comparison to the S model iPhones. It could stay 940 (v2), the name isn't really what I was getting at.

    I agree. The Continuum and iris scanning should be spread as far and wide as possible. I'd think they'd put the latter on every device with a FF camera they could. Otherwise, they will likely be relegated to niche features. 940 flagship without Continuum, without Windows Hello, and using a lesser 808 processor with fewer cores hardly seems a flagship phone. We definitely don't need more midranges or entry phones. What is so hard about building the same phone in two different sizes and letting consumers choose? If not, then they shouldn't be 940 and 940XL. Just call one 840 and the other 940 and be done with it.
    peachy001 likes this.
    06-07-2015 04:50 PM
  14. chmun77's Avatar
    Don't you just love when people make bold statements like that, as if they were Satya Nadella himself? Hilarious.
    Bold statements are hard cold facts sadly. See how Satya Nadella is making apps so much better on rival platforms than on WP? I think is time we know that WP is no longer the priority for Microsoft, but only Windows 10 and its cloud services.
    06-07-2015 10:35 PM
  15. NeerajMakeBelieve's Avatar
    whats wrong with amoled?
    06-08-2015 03:29 AM
  16. monkeysaintfun's Avatar
    Actually, I wonder if phones under a policy restriction will be able to use the retina scanner over the passcode?
    I don't see why not, usually policy restrictions just require some form of lock whether it's passcode, password or biometric data.

    I doubt Windows 10 will differentiate between the two as an IRIS scanner is proper biometric data like a fingerprint rather then some gimmicky front facing camera facial recognition unlock or voice unlock.
    06-08-2015 11:45 AM
  17. sweatshopking's Avatar
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    06-08-2015 01:25 PM
  18. Old_Cus's Avatar
    I've read all 7 pages of this thread but I still have one question: Why would I want to give up my 1520 for a 940XL?
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    06-08-2015 01:38 PM
  19. joeinbh's Avatar
    If you're happy with your 1520, I agree - it's not a compelling upgrade. My 1520 has been having call quality issues lately and the rotation lock/accelerometer has been buggy, so I'm going back and forth between buying another 1520 and waiting for the 940 XL to come out. With the possible exceptions of making our pocket computers/phones nearly indestructible and giving them weeklong battery life, improvements for the foreseeable future are going to be extremely incremental. I remember when people were upgrading home PC's every two years. Now (much to the industry's chagrin), PC upgrade cycles are more like TVs - if you want to keep up with the latest technology, no need to upgrade more than every 5 years or so, and if you don't care about the latest features, you can go much longer than that. My work PC is nearly 6 years old, and my home desktop PC is older than that, and both are still completely usable in 2015. As the pocket computer/phone upgrade cycle lengthens, upgrades will be driven more by hardware failure (as in my case) rather than the need to have the shiniest new device on the market.
    06-08-2015 02:32 PM
  20. peachy001's Avatar
    Not used a 1520. But is the screen not higher res, and possibly better quality? More RAM and a better processor can't hurt. I would fully expect a slightly better camera. Not sure on the battery, but it will have had less cycles on charge. The fact that continuum or biometric entry may be included. Better pocket fitability. Nicer design (possibly). Faster USB. Wireless charging. Longer firmware updates.

    Depends on your needs. You do of course have the option to stick with the 1520. My 920 is still going strong, but showing its age a little.
    06-08-2015 02:37 PM
  21. K Raghu's Avatar
    of Micro Nokia came into play have not seen any groundbreaking technology with any of the phones, the last one was 1520 ( which we can argue was not as great as 1020 or 808) but still was a bigger screen and now with camera beta app takes great pic.

    will wait for 1530/1540 or wait for Nokia to be back in 2016 if they plan to make a phone..
    06-08-2015 03:19 PM
  22. bo_woods's Avatar
    I've read all 7 pages of this thread but I still have one question: Why would I want to give up my 1520 for a 940XL?
    None of us here can answer that unless somebody here is behind the scenes at Microsoft as we don't know what the 940xl will for sure bring, and lastly we do not even know if it will be called that
    06-08-2015 05:23 PM
  23. camptime's Avatar
    Unless this so called high end phone from Microsoft is going to hit the market in the next few month I have a feeling it going to struggle for sales, Other phone Manufactures are already talking about using the new 820 chipset in there phones with a possible release date before December. And I would prefer the fingerprint scanner for unlocking the phone unless the iris scanner works flawlessly. For myself I would prefer to wait an extra month or 2 and have the newer chip. And Microsoft do yourself a favour tell us 2 weeks before the phone is going to be available for sale in store not months.
    peachy001 likes this.
    06-08-2015 07:29 PM
  24. Blacklac's Avatar
    I've read all 7 pages of this thread but I still have one question: Why would I want to give up my 1520 for a 940XL?
    You can pretty much assume it will have an improved camera sensor, better screen, faster processor, more RAM... Windows 10.

    Same as every new phone.
    06-08-2015 07:32 PM
  25. Kram Sacul's Avatar
    I agree. Manufacturers Cain tweak/modify/improve IPS LCD displays to achieve AMOLED colors, and deep blacks. This is clearly evident in phones like the Nokia Lumia 1520, and that device came out late 2013. Just imagine how great the Nokia/Microsoft team can make an IPS LCD display in 2015.
    Not possible. You can bump up the color saturation but there's only so much you can do about the black level on a ips display. The 1520s black level is a dark gray compared to the amoled screen on my 820.
    eb110americana likes this.
    06-08-2015 07:35 PM
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