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  1. fatclue_98's Avatar
    From what I see, as more devices get the latest and greatest, the more their users feel "left out". Outdated hardware? Are you kidding me? Just 5 years ago devices would get incremental performance increases over a 2 year period and people were content with their devices. Like Stevie Wonder sang:

    "I wish those days could come back once more. Why did those days ever have to go?"


    libra89, travisel and sahib lopez like this.
    09-21-2015 09:50 PM
  2. mohy awatli's Avatar
    if it is outdated hardware then will not buy it
    09-22-2015 02:09 PM
  3. mohy awatli's Avatar
    off course no
    09-22-2015 02:10 PM
  4. George Jenkinson's Avatar
    What about Apple's out of date specs for iPhones? They are dual core with 2GB ram and expensive.

    It's more to do with making sure that the hardware and software are optimised for each other and have the capability to run one or two annual updates smoothly before the hardware becomes overwhelmed by the demands of the software.

    Excuse me if this has been said in an earlier post - but there are now 9+ pages and I haven't time to read every reply!
    09-23-2015 08:47 AM
  5. Cryio's Avatar
    The earliest anyone is going to see a SD820 phone is March 2016. I don't understand why everybody is so anxious.
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    09-23-2015 09:07 AM
  6. Wevenhuis's Avatar
    We know very little now about how the 820 SD chip works in the daily life of things. Same was when the 810 chip came out. In due time the overheating became apparant. Who knows what the 820 will bring in due time? Specs in theory don't always reflect real world performance.

    I love my lumia 1520 to bits. Still use it as a daily driver. Can't wait to put windows 10 mobile on it in due time.

    I think I wouldn't minde the 810. It will most like be a tiny bit snappier here and there compared to my 1520 (which also still performs great today). Heating issue is a concern yes, but if I understand correctly it only happens when you demand high intensive performance such as games etc. I am curious though how it will perform with continuum. That's the main worry point. Also hoping microsoft will allow more apps to run in continuum mode in due time than only office apps and mail/calendar.

    Was is the 950XL that will support the stylus as well or was it going to be the "upcoming surface phone"?

    Either way I'm sure with/without the 820 the 950XL is going to be a wonderful phone!
    09-26-2015 01:48 AM
  7. Poirots Progeny's Avatar
    No. Not unless they were charging low end money. Then I'd probably buy many. Why should I spend my earned money on substandard products just because the os? Consumers have choice and thankfully they're is a lot of excellent choice out there. MSFT need to step up and compete or get out of the game. It's unacceptable to be sub par. Even BlackBerry are trying to be innovative (that name just is nuts though lol) but MSFT still roll on as they do. Unacceptable. Not in 2015. I want to see more of the os though. That's the kicker fort me, as I love the simplicity of WP. But not being able to use my banks, security system and all the other features I could take for granted - msft has a problem and they need to solve it. It's their they're in this lurch. All that said; it's not just the hardware but the whole package - iphone 6s is dual core with 2 gb team and it trampling everything in the benchmarks. It also has all the features most want. That's why they're successful and wp is stagnant. I believe that whole package is coming, the w10m os will finally let WP compete properly, with a fully featured ecosystem. Then the hardware will be secondary.
    09-26-2015 02:10 AM
  8. Shobin Drogan's Avatar
    What do we want? New hardware!
    When do we want them? When it gets old!
    #WindowsPhoneLife
    09-26-2015 02:50 AM
  9. zocster's Avatar
    I have only tonight learned quickly about this device. I so will get the 950. No XL for me


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    09-26-2015 03:55 AM
  10. ramyZgHR's Avatar
    What means outdated hardware? These days, everything gets dated very fast. There's no money in the world that can keep up with constant changes and new hardware every few months. And when new hardware comes out, marketing menagers make the "old hardware" even older then it is just to make us buy new, but not that improved product. I want top notch hardware. I want Zeiss 20mpx lenses and SD 810(the one that's not overheating), but I don't want to be a test bunny for new hardware at premium price. That even more when I know that what is presented as old hardware works perfectly fine with my new flagship device. I will buy 950. XL is too big for me, so I'll go for this one.
    09-26-2015 04:36 AM
  11. trivishal's Avatar
    Let's see which smartphones overheat most and perform worst Lumia 950XL (Snapdragon 810 device) or Lumia 950 (Snapdragon 808 device) from Microsoft; or Nexus 6P (Snapdragon 810 device) or Nexus 5X (Snapdragon 808 device) from Google.
    Android MarshMellow vs Windows 10 Mobile devices with 808 and 810 processors.
    Last edited by trivishal; 09-29-2015 at 02:54 AM.
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    09-26-2015 06:08 AM
  12. leehab's Avatar
    Lot of people complaining about heat issue of 810 and that is a big minus .
    It all depends on the price . I have the 1520 and love the phone and the 6" .
    I think as usual MSFT will make the big mistake and put a high price on these phone and after a while will discount them heavily .

    I will wait to see if other manufacturers offer windows phone with better specs and SD 820 .
    09-26-2015 09:56 AM
  13. leehab's Avatar
    "Average Joe Schmo doesn't know one processor from the other. Specs only matter if you are looking for them."

    That is nonsense . Do you even know what you are writing . Processors are the brain of any device . The faster they become the more data are processed and apps are handled smoother .
    Just for fun buy a computer with i3 and i5 and see the huge difference . Even a homeless person will tell you the big difference and his preference in a flash
    Poirots Progeny likes this.
    09-26-2015 10:16 AM
  14. ThaHambone's Avatar
    I do not think MS is going to be pushing these phones as "Flagship" phones nor do I believe they will command a premium price. They will label them as "premium" devices and have a modest price tag. "Premium" phones do not have to have the absolute latest and greatest.
    09-26-2015 11:03 PM
  15. colinkiama's Avatar
    I do not think MS is going to be pushing these phones as "Flagship" phones nor do I believe they will command a premium price. They will label them as "premium" devices and have a modest price tag. "Premium" phones do not have to have the absolute latest and greatest.

    These are flagships mate. The 808/810 are the best you can get today and they are even using the 9xx series name.
    libra89 and Frank Kajtazi like this.
    09-27-2015 12:18 AM
  16. colinkiama's Avatar
    Let's see which smartphones overheat most and perform worst Lumia 950XL (Snapdragon 810 device) or Lumia 950 (Snapdragon 808 device) from Microsoft; or Nexus 6P (Snapdragon 810 device) or Nexus 5S (Snapdragon 808 device) from Google.
    Android MarshMellow vs Windows 10 Mobile devices with 808 and 810 processors.

    How much you wanna bet that neither phones will overheat?
    09-27-2015 12:19 AM
  17. Sean Eu Chng's Avatar
    Besides the hardware, 3rd party apps are very poor.
    09-27-2015 09:51 AM
  18. Blacklac's Avatar
    "Average Joe Schmo doesn't know one processor from the other. Specs only matter if you are looking for them."

    That is nonsense . Do you even know what you are writing . Processors are the brain of any device . The faster they become the more data are processed and apps are handled smoother .
    Just for fun buy a computer with i3 and i5 and see the huge difference . Even a homeless person will tell you the big difference and his preference in a flash
    Why would we compare an i3 to an i5 and assume it has anything to do with this conversation?

    Posted via the Note 4/Nexus 7 (2013)/Lumia 1020/Lumia 2520
    09-27-2015 01:27 PM
  19. Blacklac's Avatar
    Let's see which smartphones overheat most and perform worst Lumia 950XL (Snapdragon 810 device) or Lumia 950 (Snapdragon 808 device) from Microsoft; or Nexus 6P (Snapdragon 810 device) or Nexus 5S (Snapdragon 808 device) from Google.
    Android MarshMellow vs Windows 10 Mobile devices with 808 and 810 processors.
    Unless the cooling design and clock speed are identical, its not saying anything for each OS.

    Posted via the Note 4/Nexus 7 (2013)/Lumia 1020/Lumia 2520
    09-27-2015 01:28 PM
  20. Blacklac's Avatar
    How much you wanna bet that neither phones will overheat?
    I'd put money on both devices (950 & 950XL) throttling when pushed (assuming clock speed isn't massively reduced). Windows Phone isn't nearly as efficient as it used to be back in WP7-7.5 days. Look at the hardware we had back then.

    Gaming or extensive browsing, streaming or camera use will throttle them.

    Posted via the Note 4/Nexus 7 (2013)/Lumia 1020/Lumia 2520
    09-27-2015 01:31 PM
  21. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I'd put money on both devices (950 & 950XL) throttling when pushed (assuming clock speed isn't massively reduced). Windows Phone isn't nearly as efficient as it used to be back in WP7-7.5 days. Look at the hardware we had back then.

    Gaming or extensive browsing, streaming or camera use will throttle them.

    Posted via the Note 4/Nexus 7 (2013)/Lumia 1020/Lumia 2520

    That was WinCE. It could run on 256MB of RAM. I've always said 7/7.5 ran a ton faster than 8/8.1/10.
    09-29-2015 09:13 PM
  22. grunt0300's Avatar
    As I've stated in other posts, i'm not a big app user. I'm coming over to Windows with my eyes wide open. The new Nexus 6P looks tempting, but Google is still out of touch when it comes to adding an ext sd card, and changing out the battery. My Nexus 5 will give me my "rooting fix", when and if I need it, but the Lumia 950XL will be my daily driver, just as soon as I can get one. I use Windows 10 on my MacBook Pro, and I really enjoy it, so why not get a Windows phone? Just my two cents worth.
    libra89 likes this.
    09-30-2015 08:24 AM
  23. Mad Cabbie's Avatar
    Sorry gang, but I don't get all this 'outdated' this and 'outdated' that spec this, spec that. Do you actually notice this in the 'real' world. Mondays tech, is Tuesdays recycling! Antutu scores on android tech are subjective. I had a note 3, when the so called 'superior' note 4 came out. I ported a note 4 rom and ran antutu. The difference was negligable!

    I know we all want windows phone to succeed, but how many potential casual buyers would worry about processor etc. You then have to deal with heat dissipation. My 930 gets pretty warm, my 640xl ( yes a slower chip) stays cool. What bothers me with heat generation is, after years of working with circuit boards, you have the potential for board warpage, solder weakening etc leading to board failure. Admittedly, this would take time, but if you are loading the soc heavily, heat could be an issue.

    Finally, this mornings tech saves money on R&D, allowing for less expensive devices. Doesn't mean they are noticeably slower, it reduces bragging rights, and that is all that matters to people these days. I'd rather save a few bucks, get a device that works, does what I want, and is adequately fast, and spend the savings on my family.
    fatclue_98, ramyZgHR and libra89 like this.
    09-30-2015 08:54 AM
  24. Steve Adams's Avatar
    Its just the techies way of life. Its got to be THE BEST. Well, I know for a fact the 950's will be amazing user interface devices. As mentioned before that up until the 6s, the iPhone had 1gb ram but was touted as "revolutionary" and a "flagship" device. IMO, my windows 1020 had better specs than the brand new iPhone. and I am on par with the new one. Go by user experience. not by specs.

    I cannot wait to get my mitts on my 950xl. I will be ordering one unlocked as soon as that option is available.
    grunt0300 likes this.
    10-01-2015 03:10 PM
  25. ClaesW's Avatar
    They dont really have outdated ware tho? Assuming they are released this year :P
    So yeah, im getting me a XL, I do however wish that I could get a 64Gig memory with fingerprint... Kind of dissapointed about the lack of config options and again, the printreader...
    10-02-2015 12:07 AM
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