10-31-2015 07:30 AM
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  1. YAZAN_s's Avatar
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    i know , everyone is waiting for the new lumia flagship , and we saw some really nice specs

    but just stop and think for a minute , you know they will release those phones in the Q4 ( before or after the new year 2016 )

    with the snapdragon 808 !!

    so why im angry ? you know its obvious because i saw this specs before 6 months on every flagship phone from all the company's

    and here our beloved Microsoft finally decided to put it in the next flagships ( yes after 4 months and maybe more ! )

    so when you will see the next nexus or lg with the SD 820 , you will just look at your 500$ device with the old hardware

    If this is a Q4 handset, then they should at least benefit from the SD820.

    The more I think about a L950 with an SD808, the more attractive a new Nexus (with an SD820) sounds.

    ( and don't tell me that we don't need a high specs because we will pay a good money for it ,and add on we know that lumia flagships had some heat issue , also we know that SD 810 have some serious heat issue , so it will be a nightmare when you see a lumia with SD 810 )

    If they were really smart they would wait for the SD820.
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    07-15-2015 09:00 PM
  2. Zachary Boddy's Avatar
    Just saying... Lumia 940. Not 950.:P
    Outdated hardware is redundant. A phone comes out with the latest and newest and two months later it's archaic. The Galaxy S6 is the most powerful mobile device to ever see the light of day (according to benchmarks) yet in a few months something will have surpassed it. If I could've found one (they were all sold out) I would've bought a Lumia 1520. Instead I settled for the Lumia 830 (which is still amazing), but I would've been perfectly happy with a device running a Snapdragon 800 when the 801, 805, 808, and 810 have all come out since.
    As long as Microsoft releases a beautiful, reliable, sturdy phone that brings innovative, genuinely useful features, a fantastic camera and slick performance I wouldn't care if they were powering it with a potato. In fact, if they make Windows 10 Mobile efficient enough to run off potato power then that would be even better. Yeah, it's better for marketing and blah, blah, blah, but I, personally, don't care. If it came with the Snapdragon 820 no one would care because they'd all be saying they should've waited for the Snapdragon 830.
    07-15-2015 09:53 PM
  3. RumoredNow's Avatar
    Constantly chasing the future can keep from getting a phone.

    In the long run, I don't think on-paper specs matter as much as the tech press and OEMs want you to believe. I look for a well rounded performer with solid user reviews.
    07-15-2015 09:59 PM
  4. trivishal's Avatar
    Constantly chasing the future can keep from getting a phone.

    In the long run, I don't think on-paper specs matter as much as the tech press and OEMs want you to believe. I look for a well rounded performer with solid user reviews.
    Yeah, paper specs sheet don't matter but real life performance of smartphones does matters which very much depends upon customized vs non-customized processors (eg. Snapdragon 810 vs 820 ), processor speed ( eg. The low end 1.2 ghz quad core 400 is not a beast performer), heating issues ( eg. too much seen in snapdragon 615 and 810 processor). With these issues, if you are trying to guess as intel i3 beats the blazing performance of i7, then I agree with you that tech specs and reviews from tech geeks and OEMs don't matter.
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    07-15-2015 10:31 PM
  5. YAZAN_s's Avatar
    Just saying... Lumia 940. Not 950.:P
    Outdated hardware is redundant. A phone comes out with the latest and newest and two months later it's archaic. The Galaxy S6 is the most powerful mobile device to ever see the light of day (according to benchmarks) yet in a few months something will have surpassed it. If I could've found one (they were all sold out) I would've bought a Lumia 1520. Instead I settled for the Lumia 830 (which is still amazing), but I would've been perfectly happy with a device running a Snapdragon 800 when the 801, 805, 808, and 810 have all come out since.
    As long as Microsoft releases a beautiful, reliable, sturdy phone that brings innovative, genuinely useful features, a fantastic camera and slick performance I wouldn't care if they were powering it with a potato. In fact, if they make Windows 10 Mobile efficient enough to run off potato power then that would be even better. Yeah, it's better for marketing and blah, blah, blah, but I, personally, don't care. If it came with the Snapdragon 820 no one would care because they'd all be saying they should've waited for the Snapdragon 830.
    Constantly chasing the future can keep from getting a phone.

    In the long run, I don't think on-paper specs matter as much as the tech press and OEMs want you to believe. I look for a well rounded performer with solid user reviews.
    that's not the point ,yes no one can chase the future , but we all know that there will be a powerful stuff after 2 or 3 months

    but microsoft will still use the old ones with the heat issues instead of the new ones that will be available at the same time ( its already availbe for the next phones like the next nexus , the upcoming lg g pro 3 , ETC .... )

    ++ imagine someone bought an old potato while he can buy the new fresh tasty potato at the same time ++

    i think we will see the note 5 after 3 months , and we will see a huge spec , and they will cost the same !

    that is the big problem !

    ( i already have some serious heat issue with my lumia 930 !! )
    Last edited by YAZAN_s; 07-15-2015 at 11:09 PM.
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    07-15-2015 10:58 PM
  6. sst154's Avatar
    SD810 was a very expensive mistake for HTC. I can imagine how MS would take such risk and even more if it's one of it's last opportunities.
    Even if the phone works well with a SD810 only the name with prevent a lot of people from buying it and it will probably have bad rep given all the issues it had
    But also consider that the supposed L940 that leaked had an hexa core with Adreno 430, so it can't be a SD808 nor a 810. Maybe MS is having custom SoC's from Qualcomm.
    07-15-2015 11:07 PM
  7. Zachary Boddy's Avatar
    We've already been waiting too long for proper Windows flagships, and waiting any longer for new processors that may or may not be superior and Microsoft may or may not have access too is...I don't think I have to say anymore. If Microsoft makes a solid, beautiful phone, then I'm good.
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    07-16-2015 01:46 PM
  8. YAZAN_s's Avatar
    We've already been waiting too long for proper Windows flagships, and waiting any longer for new processors that may or may not be superior and Microsoft may or may not have access too is...I don't think I have to say anymore. If Microsoft makes a solid, beautiful phone, then I'm good.
    yes , we all hope so , but also we know that SD820 , will be available for every phone will launch after a few months , so when micro will release thiers phones with the SD 810 , you will see at the same time a new phones with the SD820 , at the same price !!
    07-16-2015 05:20 PM
  9. Ragav suriya's Avatar
    According to digitimes . Microsoft even started to plan low budget Lumia's with snapdragon 210 with LTE so they are changing old hardware strategies like sd200 400 800 to 210, 808(in flagship)
    suriya ragav
    07-17-2015 04:23 AM
  10. trivishal's Avatar
    We've already been waiting too long for proper Windows flagships, and waiting any longer for new processors that may or may not be superior and Microsoft may or may not have access too is...I don't think I have to say anymore. If Microsoft makes a solid, beautiful phone, then I'm good.
    According to digitimes . Microsoft even started to plan low budget Lumia's with snapdragon 210 with LTE so they are changing old hardware strategies like sd200, 400, 800 to 210, and 808
    suriya ragav
    Microsoft should put latest processors in Flagship Lumias, as well as in Mid range smartphones and budget phones.
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    07-17-2015 08:40 AM
  11. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Tomorrow's flagship will be yesterday's news the minute you buy it. If you absolutely must have the latest and greatest, I hope your last name is Rockefeller so you can afford to buy a new phone every 3-4 months. Buy what suits you now and stop worrying about the future, you might get hit by a bus this afternoon.
    07-17-2015 08:48 AM
  12. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    Considering htc released a 4 megapixel camera smartphone and apple continuously has released its iPhone with midrange specs at premium smartphone prices I really can't be too hard pressed about this tbh. Specs aren't everything unless they are woefully behind compared to others

    I know htc fans do tend to brag that the m8 has 801 processor over the icon and other Lumias 800 processor but in reality it doesn't matter.

    I really don't care about the processor as long as it performs l the tasks it should in a more than adequate manner. This is windows phone so having the top of the line processor is nice but not a requirement. Android...definitely.

    Besides I'd rather a slightly outdated processor to the one that is newer and apparently has heating issues.


    sent from my iPhone...asking myself why I own one
    07-17-2015 09:17 AM
  13. UncleGrandpa's Avatar
    With WP, latest hardware isn't a formula for success. Its about the feel, weight, shooter, expandability, flexibility, and most importantly...Windows 10.
    07-17-2015 09:30 AM
  14. trivishal's Avatar
    Considering htc released a 4 megapixel camera smartphone and apple continuously has released its iPhone with midrange specs at premium smartphone prices I really can't be too hard pressed about this tbh. Specs aren't everything unless they are woefully behind compared to others

    I know htc fans do tend to brag that the m8 has 801 processor over the icon and other Lumias 800 processor but in reality it doesn't matter.

    I really don't care about the processor as long as it performs l the tasks it should in a more than adequate manner. This is windows phone so having the top of the line processor is nice but not a requirement. Android...definitely.

    Besides I'd rather a slightly outdated processor to the one that is newer and apparently has heating issues.


    sent from my iPhone...asking myself why I own one
    But, wouldn't you love to have latest SOC and Hardware in your device worth for as much as you pay? Or, Are We Lumia users against to use latest hardware and processors to use cheap, low quality devices?
    And by the way HTC corrected that mistake by giving 20 MP camera in HTC One M9. Iphone has latest hardware combinations and best hardware software optimization so it don't need to have too much high Androish Specifications. And I genuinely think that OVERHEATING, GIMMICK ONLY OCTA-CORE SNAPDRAGON 615 and 810 PROCESSORS shouldn't be used in Microsoft Lumia Smartphones
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    07-17-2015 09:42 AM
  15. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    But, wouldn't you love to have latest SOC and Hardware in your device worth for as much as you pay? Or, Are We Lumia users against to use latest hardware and processors to use cheap, low quality devices?
    I don't mind having the latest and greatest but having used the iPhone I also see where having moderate specs isn't always the worst thing simply put because so many of these oems release top of the line products with awesome specs yet they don't know how to perfect them.

    Case in point the Apple iPhone. I still would choose a lumia camera as they are powerful and have more use but my iPhone 6 camera has sometimes performed both my 1520 and lumia 640 xl.

    I notice lag every so often with iOS. Same with windows phone. Using a same spec 1 gb android phone the performance is always subpar.

    It has nothing to do with lumia. If you can exceed expectations with moderate means to where I can't tell I am lacking then I am for that. But don't just throw top of the line specs out if the product isn't using them perfectly.

    Let's be real. The lumia 1520, while being the best windows phone out and even the 640 xl are sort of useless.

    Why? Because while they are phablet in size in truth they are no different than any other windows phones.

    Nokia and Microsoft released a phablet to say they have one and yet I can't do much of anything I can do with other phablets. I just have a bigger than all lumia phone lol. If you recall I think it was really windows phone 8.1 where the 1520 potential truly showed.


    sent from my iPhone...asking myself why I own one
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    07-17-2015 09:52 AM
  16. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    But, wouldn't you love to have latest SOC and Hardware in your device worth for as much as you pay? Or, Are We Lumia users against to use latest hardware and processors to use cheap, low quality devices?
    And by the way HTC corrected that mistake by giving 20 MP camera in HTC One M9. Iphone has latest hardware combinations and best hardware software optimization so it don't need to have too much high Androish Specifications. And I genuinely think that OVERHEATING, GIMMICK ONLY OCTA-CORE SNAPDRAGON 615 and 810 PROCESSORS shouldn't be used in Microsoft Lumia Smartphones
    Htc corrected that mistake in megapixels. The camera is still crap and my 8 megapixel iPhone outperforms it. Hence why htc is not doing any better even with top of the line specs.

    Also if you're saying Apple doesn't need to have high specs then why are you giving them a pass but not others. Why does Apple get to get by because it can optimize better but everyone else needs the specs?


    sent from my iPhone...asking myself why I own one
    07-17-2015 09:54 AM
  17. sst154's Avatar
    I'm sure most WP users don't care too much about having the latest hardware, BUT MS needs to urgently expand it's MS and it is one of it's last chances. So MANY people (specially other platforms users) care about the latest hardware, and if you add the bad reputation that the SD810 has i think it won't be a good idea to uase it without a little costumization that could change people's perception and (justified) prejuices.
    Apple doesn't use top specs but they use custom SoC's that have much more added value than a bad rep more-than-6-month-old Soc in a vital flagship.
    IT'S ALL ABOUT CUSTOMER'S PERCEPTION and not all about specs. Buying something with a SD810 represents at least a risk for the buyer even more in a very expensive flagship.
    Appart from that it's obvious that always there's going to be something better, but given the VERY SHORT life cycle of current products, a person would feel much more secure buying something with a new SoC that will las for a longer time than a "old" SoC with bad reputation. It's all about perception. And functionality, obvoiusly.
    Good bye/buy
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    07-17-2015 10:09 AM
  18. fatclue_98's Avatar
    But, wouldn't you love to have latest SOC and Hardware in your device worth for as much as you pay?
    iPhone users don't seem to mind. Can't say they're in the minority judging by sales figures.

    BTW, Lumia users don't "settle" for lesser processors, we just know we don't need them. Windows Phone users appreciate the experience. We leave the bragging to the Android crowd.
    07-17-2015 10:15 AM
  19. abhinavsaprey's Avatar
    I think Microsoft is going to use latest processors in its oncoming devices. What makes me think so you might ask.

    According to Joe Belfiore, in a video explaining the Continuum feature on phones, he said specifically that this feature requires newer hardware from Qualcomm which supports running two displays simultaneously....

    So this might indicate inclusion of custom made SoCs for newer flagship Lumias....

    Just my take on this...
    07-17-2015 10:20 AM
  20. sumeet shukla's Avatar
    Well it depends. I bought a L1020, because of its camera 10months ago. What can you say ofcourse few hardware specs were outdates, but its not the end of the world. Camera was my main aspect for phone selection .
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    07-17-2015 10:27 AM
  21. sst154's Avatar
    Yes, but you bought something you know that was launched in 2013 and will be outdated in some ways.
    If a new version of the 1020 was to be launched in 3 months with a SD810, would you buy it? Many people won't because of bad reputation of the SoC.
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    07-17-2015 11:24 AM
  22. HoosierDaddy's Avatar
    I couldn't care less about the actual hardware. All I care about is what it can do, how well it does that, what it costs and how it looks and feels. It's annoying how other people's fixations on hardware specs interfere with those priorities. For instance, I don't think the vast majority benefit from higher resolution than 1920x1080. But the fact that people want more for the sake of more, means there won't be a high end phone without that and prices will be higher, battery life reduced, etc..
    07-17-2015 05:41 PM
  23. neo158's Avatar
    I couldn't care less about the actual hardware. All I care about is what it can do, how well it does that, what it costs and how it looks and feels. It's annoying how other people's fixations on hardware specs interfere with those priorities. For instance, I don't think the vast majority benefit from higher resolution than 1920x1080. But the fact that people want more for the sake of more, means there won't be a high end phone without that and prices will be higher, battery life reduced, etc..
    It's the "keeping up with the Joneses" effect. I other words people think that just because Android has it then Windows Phone should have it as well.

    Personally I would rather have a phone that is rammed to the seams with features than a marginally faster, more core toting processor.
    07-17-2015 06:05 PM
  24. Jazmac's Avatar
    I'm interested in one thing alone and that is my phone have the power and speed I need when I need it. If I plan to use Continuum and I expect I will, my phone has to do that really well. And that is MY standards, my patience level and meet my expectations. Mine. Not The Verge, Mashable and certainly not ZDNet. Mine. If the phone performs all of what I need for it to do and do it well, I could care less about this year vs last years vs next years chip-set.

    Personally, I think all these spec debates are fun to watch but a bit specious.
    07-17-2015 08:20 PM
  25. trivishal's Avatar
    I'm interested in one thing alone and that is my phone have the power and speed I need when I need it. If I plan to use Continuum and I expect I will, my phone has to do that really well. And that is MY standards, my patience level and meet my expectations. Mine. Not The Verge, Mashable and certainly not ZDNet. Mine. If the phone performs all of what I need for it to do and do it well, I could care less about this year vs last years vs next years chip-set.

    Personally, I think all these spec debates are fun to watch but a bit specious.
    The specs debate aren't fun because it is about the improvements of the new processors over their predecessors and new processors bring new features that never existed before . Think, how 2k and 4k display came and are going to come & be used, the evolution and usage of 3G and LTE occurred, the increase in battery size and it's efficiency, power usage management, the smoothness and fluidity of smartphones usage,voice activation support( Cortana, Google Now, Siri) l, how the new chips are going to support Continuum, and many more. If you think these are funny, not a result of development of ARM PROCESSORS, then you are right.
    07-18-2015 08:15 AM
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