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  1. 920Walker's Avatar
    Might Microsoft's Lumia 950 and 950XL phones get more carrier love? | ZDNet

    I'm out for now. Looks like no 950 XL via at&t at launch. If they bring it to at&t 2-3 months after launch I'll get it. I just can't go from a 6" 1520 down to 5.2".
    What carriers is the XL available at the MS store supporting? I believe AT&T.
    10-09-2015 03:06 PM
  2. Citizen X's Avatar
    What carriers is the XL available at the MS store supporting? I believe AT&T.
    I believe it supports all US GSM carriers. Just can't buy it through at&t.
    10-09-2015 03:25 PM
  3. grunt0300's Avatar
    I believe it supports all US GSM carriers. Just can't buy it through at&t.
    EXACTLY!!!
    10-09-2015 03:30 PM
  4. jgbstetson's Avatar
    I believe it supports all US GSM carriers. Just can't buy it through at&t.
    Based on the Microsoft datasheet, the XL does not support ATT's band 17 LTE
    10-10-2015 03:58 PM
  5. 920Walker's Avatar
    Based on the Microsoft datasheet, the XL does not support ATT's band 17 LTE
    If true, will it work on T-Mobile only? Lots of questions for the MS store reps. Unlocked in the US is looking like a farce compared to ROW.
    10-10-2015 04:35 PM
  6. jgbstetson's Avatar
    If true, will it work on T-Mobile only? Lots of questions for the MS store reps. Unlocked in the US is looking like a farce compared to ROW.
    There are 2 additional ATT LTE bands supported, but that is the low frequency band.
    10-10-2015 05:07 PM
  7. Doug Swallow's Avatar
    Considering Band 17 is listed on 3 of the 4 different 950-family device specification sheets (950, 950 Dual SIM, 950 XL Dual SIM), I would lean towards suspecting it's a mistake on the specification sheet, not that it doesn't support Band 17.
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    10-10-2015 05:27 PM
  8. Citizen X's Avatar
    I just thought of something. It is possible to buy contract phones from other parties. All MSFT has to do is contact at&t and see if you are eligible for an upgrade. I've seen this on websites like Amazon before. I never utilized it because it was never a deal for me and I like as few people as possible involved in my transactions so they can't pass the buck when something goes wrong.

    For those of us who are aware of the 950 XL this could be a nonissue. Unfortunately for the people who walk into stores and buy phones off the shelf this could be problematic. They will never see the 950 XL. If they are looking for a phablet all they will see is Andriod and iphone.
    10-10-2015 08:26 PM
  9. cheesemoo's Avatar
    I know it was just a web chat on Micorsoft Store, but the rep just confirmed to me that the 950XL will be sold through ATT when it actually releases. I have had a similar response form the ATT web chat as well. Fingers crossed.

    Okay, just saw the other thread on another confirmation. Getting very hopeful now. :)

    Okay that other post isnt exactly a confirmation, but hey I'll take it.

    Pardon my atrocious typing:

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    Last edited by cheesemoo; 10-28-2015 at 09:20 AM.
    10-28-2015 08:54 AM
  10. grunt0300's Avatar
    I believe that AT&T WILL be selling the 950XL. My only concern is how much bloatware will it be carrying?
    10-28-2015 09:30 AM
  11. MiloTheOne's Avatar
    You could go to a Microsoft store and get the phone on a plan. I asked my local stores manager and he told me that is plausible for store reps to do. I called the corporate number and asked and they verified that for me, she didn't seem reluctant to give the I formation to me but when I asked directly she said yes bitterly.
    10-28-2015 09:36 AM
  12. gordonfink's Avatar
    Why is release through ATT so important - so you can finance it through NEXT? If you buy it on a discounted 2 year contract you get screwed on monthly access fees.
    10-28-2015 09:51 AM
  13. HoosierDaddy's Avatar
    Why is release through ATT so important - so you can finance it through NEXT? If you buy it on a discounted 2 year contract you get screwed on monthly access fees.
    It's just important because of ignorance of so many US customers. All they know is getting a phone from their carrier. Clearly it is NOT in their best interest but they don't know anything different. Imagine if cars were sold the same way as phones in the US. People would be bemoaning that they can't drive a [fill in the blank] brand car because only Shell stations sell them and they use Exxon gas.

    Eventually the majority of US customers will figure out what most of the world takes as just common sense and carriers will have to stop the games. But until then, phone makers are along for the ride.
    10-28-2015 10:00 AM
  14. gordonfink's Avatar
    You might have seen my post in the 950 thread. I actually was looking into upgrade options, because I have 5 lines. I was going to upgrade the kids (3) to iPhone 6, wife to Galaxy S6 Edge, and me to 950, all for Christmas.

    I haven't bought a phone through ATT for probably 5 years, and have had no contracts for that long at least. But, I was thinking, what the heck, because all of the above is awful pricey.

    That was when I found out that they would hit me for another $25 per line if I get the 2-yr contract deal. That's $3,000, plus the initial phone prices, which is another $800 or so.

    I can buy all of them on NEXT, which will cost the full retail ATT prices, which will be around $4,000.

    So, what I have decided to do is buy used iphones (around $350 each), and S6 edge (around 350). That's $1,400. Then, I can get a 950, new or used, when the mood hits me (which will likely be sooner rather than later, because I am jonesing for the 950).

    Anyways, total cost is around $2k, as opposed to the $4k ATT wants to charge me. If I want to pay full retail, I'll just buy through Apple, Samsung, and MS, and pay the same but still have no contracts.

    I just don't get the "I have to buy through ATT" thing, unless it's a finance purchase through NEXT, which I then understand.

    It's just important because of ignorance of so many US customers. All they know is getting a phone from their carrier. Clearly it is NOT in their best interest but they don't know anything different. Imagine if cars were sold the same way as phones in the US. People would be bemoaning that they can't drive a [fill in the blank] brand car because only Shell stations sell them and they use Exxon gas.
    10-28-2015 10:08 AM
  15. maevinj's Avatar
    You might have seen my post in the 950 thread. I actually was looking into upgrade options, because I have 5 lines. I was going to upgrade the kids (3) to iPhone 6, wife to Galaxy S6 Edge, and me to 950, all for Christmas.

    I haven't bought a phone through ATT for probably 5 years, and have had no contracts for that long at least. But, I was thinking, what the heck, because all of the above is awful pricey.

    That was when I found out that they would hit me for another $25 per line if I get the 2-yr contract deal. That's $3,000, plus the initial phone prices, which is another $800 or so.

    I can buy all of them on NEXT, which will cost the full retail ATT prices, which will be around $4,000.

    So, what I have decided to do is buy used iphones (around $350 each), and S6 edge (around 350). That's $1,400. Then, I can get a 950, new or used, when the mood hits me (which will likely be sooner rather than later, because I am jonesing for the 950).

    Anyways, total cost is around $2k, as opposed to the $4k ATT wants to charge me. If I want to pay full retail, I'll just buy through Apple, Samsung, and MS, and pay the same but still have no contracts.

    I just don't get the "I have to buy through ATT" thing, unless it's a finance purchase through NEXT, which I then understand.
    First world problems...
    10-28-2015 10:38 AM
  16. gordonfink's Avatar
    First world problems...
    Perhaps, but I am trying to help people see that waiting on the ATT version may be a wolf in sheep's clothing.
    10-28-2015 11:30 AM
  17. cheesemoo's Avatar
    Why is release through ATT so important - so you can finance it through NEXT? If you buy it on a discounted 2 year contract you get screwed on monthly access fees.
    The main issue for me and many others, is that we get phones provided by our work. They exclusively get phones through ATT. If I purchase myself, then that is a loss of one of my benefits.
    10-28-2015 12:16 PM
  18. HoosierDaddy's Avatar
    The main issue for me and many others, is that we get phones provided by our work. They exclusively get phones through ATT. If I purchase myself, then that is a loss of one of my benefits.
    Make sure you let management know (in writing) that you don't consider it much of a benefit if you have to chose between no subsidy or a phone carrier combo you don't want. Companies give these benefits to make employment there a plus. Believe me, they don't want you to be unhappy about this. There may be bureaucratic inertia and it might not get fixed overnight but it never will if nobody educates them about the problem. And if your company is progressive they might be able to give you some other discretionary benefit of equal value to you so it makes it worth while for you to buy the phone you want. My wife's employer just adds a phone allowance to her paychecks and she gets the phone and carrier she wants.
    Last edited by HoosierDaddy; 10-28-2015 at 01:29 PM.
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    10-28-2015 12:34 PM
  19. 707wpfan's Avatar
    The main issue for me and many others, is that we get phones provided by our work. They exclusively get phones through ATT. If I purchase myself, then that is a loss of one of my benefits.

    Booooo hoooooooo to you and a few others, many more adults pay their own way and have real bills. congratulations though on finding a job that gives you a free cell phone and pays the bill, lifes rough you get much sympathy for your complaints
    10-28-2015 12:38 PM
  20. cheesemoo's Avatar
    Thank you for responding like a mature adult while making many incorrect assumptions.
    10-28-2015 12:49 PM
  21. wpfan86's Avatar
    Booooo hoooooooo to you and a few others, many more adults pay their own way and have real bills. congratulations though on finding a job that gives you a free cell phone and pays the bill, lifes rough you get much sympathy for your complaints
    The question was why are some people concerned about AT&T availability, and he answered it. No need to lash out irrationally at him. He wasn't complaining and he wasn't asking for sympathy. He was offering an explanation.
    10-28-2015 12:51 PM
  22. maevinj's Avatar
    Perhaps, but I am trying to help people see that waiting on the ATT version may be a wolf in sheep's clothing.
    I think most people realize they are making a deal with the Devil when they buy their phone from the carries.
    My comment about first world problems was related to the comment that you have problems with the cost of getting all 3 of your kids an iPhone 6..
    First world problems..
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    10-28-2015 01:32 PM
  23. psurob55's Avatar
    going to pop my AT&T SIM in a 950XL demo if they ever make it back to stores. Kind of concerning that it's almost Nov 1 and we still don't have a release date.

    The waiting game continues. My 3 year old 920 is limping right now. The Note 5 / S6 Edge + is becoming increasingly tempting....
    10-28-2015 01:42 PM
  24. gordonfink's Avatar
    The main issue for me and many others, is that we get phones provided by our work. They exclusively get phones through ATT. If I purchase myself, then that is a loss of one of my benefits.
    Well that makes sense then. It's pretty uncommon in my industry to get an employer provided phone, so I didn't think of that. I had one once, but I didn't like the phone they gave me (I was actually using an iPhone then), so I just set it up to permanently forward to my personal. So, like you said, it wasn't a benefit at all because I never used their phone.
    10-28-2015 01:54 PM
  25. gordonfink's Avatar
    Cute comment.

    The point, again, is that it is much less expensive to go outside the carrier contracts. I guess since I haven't had a contract in years, I had no idea they tacked on extra charges if you get a contract phone.

    In the end, you pay full retail, not matter what.

    I think most people realize they are making a deal with the Devil when they buy their phone from the carries.
    My comment about first world problems was related to the comment that you have problems with the cost of getting all 3 of your kids an iPhone 6..
    First world problems..
    10-28-2015 02:00 PM
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