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  1. sprtfan's Avatar
    Never going to happen! Time to start hoping the Surface Phone comes early next year and on Verizon��
    I have no expectation of either the 950XL or 950 to be on Verizon but I do have hope that another vender like HTC or Samsung may have a worth while offering show up on Verizon before the Surface Phone would come out.
    10-17-2015 09:59 PM
  2. DavidinCT's Avatar
    Seems like time for a FCC complaint.... IF Verizon actually told Microsoft that they would not activate the 950/XL on their network... Then it's time people.

    Anyway about it, We can all complain here on how much we want the 950 on Verizon but, till Microsoft enables the bands or Verizon publicly states that they will take the phone, Nothing can happen. And complaining to this forum and thread DOES NOTHING besides a little venting (and everyone needs to time to time).

    SO, if you want this to happen, this is what needs to be done.

    1. File a complaint with the FCC, Nothing that it's quoted that "Verizon stated to Microosft that they would not activate the phone on their network"
    2. Call (first call), then tweet, then facebook to Verizon say, get your crap together and get this phone.
    3. Contact Microsoft and let them know, the MORE people who say something, the better the chance a dialog with Verizon can be opened up and this about the ONLY way we can see this happening.

    Anyway about it, in it's current form, the 950 or 950XL will not work on Verizon and the ONLY way to get it to, is to be heard.
    10-17-2015 10:16 PM
  3. 920Walker's Avatar
    I stated earlier in this posting that I would not blow up my Verizon Family plan again to get the 950 XL and change to AT&T. It appears that I won't have to. I just spoke with AT&T rep and got a price of $55 per month for unlimited voice and text plus 2 GB of data per month. This is an individual plan and it's quite attractive. I'm luck in that I have access Wi Fi access at home and work so 2 GB should be more than enough.

    For those in the same boat, you might want to take a look at this. This all hinges on Verizon and MS not coming to an agreement that lets customers use the new 950 line on Verizon. I don't think I'll hold my breath until this happens. LOL
    For $35, no added fees, you can get 2.5GB data, at slower about 10MBps speeds on Cricket and no overage charge if you go over 2.5GB, but are throttled to 128kb :eek:
    10-17-2015 10:20 PM
  4. DavidinCT's Avatar
    I stated earlier in this posting that I would not blow up my Verizon Family plan again to get the 950 XL and change to AT&T. It appears that I won't have to. I just spoke with AT&T rep and got a price of $55 per month for unlimited voice and text plus 2 GB of data per month. This is an individual plan and it's quite attractive. I'm luck in that I have access Wi Fi access at home and work so 2 GB should be more than enough.

    For those in the same boat, you might want to take a look at this. This all hinges on Verizon and MS not coming to an agreement that lets customers use the new 950 line on Verizon. I don't think I'll hold my breath until this happens. LOL
    This is where Verizon has me by the balls, Data plan. Right now with Unlimited data is $24.90 a month (After my corp discount), I use about 4-12gb a month, and normally about 5-6gb a month. This is a single phone on a single line (my ICON). Sure I have Wi-Fi at home but, LTE is faster than my WI-FI so why would I bother ?

    Only way I can go to AT&T is to get at least a 10-15gb data plan for no more than $30 a month. The 2.5gb plus overages would cost me WAY more than I pay now.

    I like how I can use my phone, NEVER worry about data costs and even my texts, Picture messages and calls, are a fair level over what I use but, not excessive over (my main numbers are friends and family so I don't even get changed for them), so as far as I see, I never have to WATCH anything for going over. I don't even think about it and never have. It's nice not to deal with that ON TOP of all the other BS in my life.

    If you start with a 2.5gb plan, your always watching your data, Then when you want to watch that youtube video, or stream that radio station on 25 days in your billing cycle, you might not be able to. This is something I never have to worry about.

    Even if Verizon ups it to $50, it's still cheaper than I would pay else where and that is sad...

    I wonder if AT&T does have something that would fit my needs, Hitting a $55 bill would be nice of course but, I would rather pay what I am now but, not to worry about ANYTHING.
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    10-17-2015 10:33 PM
  5. oldpueblo's Avatar
    Uh why bother with Wi-Fi? Because Wi-Fi is still fast and you can get a cheaper plan bro. Do you even have a realistic idea of how much data you HAVE to use? Spend a month with Wi-Fi on and then check the data sense app, you might surprise yourself. I have 10 people sharing 15Gb of data, and we almost never get to the edge of it.
    10-18-2015 01:47 AM
  6. Grant Butler's Avatar
    Microsoft didn't mention CDMA
    10-18-2015 06:47 AM
  7. jfa1's Avatar
    No it wont work right now. It could but Verizon as usual will not do anything let it work on VZN.
    10-18-2015 08:44 AM
  8. bulls96's Avatar
    I had my nexus 6 working on Verizon when it first came out, Verizon didn't support it. everything worked just fine and there was rumor that they weren't even going to support the nexus 6 at all. it was kind of a stupid workaround I had to do. I had to get my girlfriends htc remix and put it on my account, activate a new sim on the phone, the just popped the SIM in my nexus 6 and it activated and worked flawlessly. put the htc remix back on her account with her old SIM and that was that. the same thing will go for these phones, you'll be able to use the phone as long as you have a nano SIM attached to your account already. doesn't matter if Verizon supports them or carries them, as long as they have a few of the CDMA/LTE bands or just LTE bands, it'll work.

    That's an interesting idea for a workaround. I actually have a Nano and microsim of the same number (don't ask me how) if I could try it on 950 I would love to try it.
    10-18-2015 09:05 AM
  9. Zippier's Avatar
    Oh Thread. You're still around? I expected the life to have been beaten out of you by now. I didn't realize there were so many ways to say no. I should have known, as I have teenagers and I come up with new ways daily. But some of the new ways I've seen on this thread are amazing. Just when I think you've breathed your last breath and uttered your last sigh someone comes in with a little hope.

    You're a fighter, Thread. I see that. You want to change everything. You want every Verizon customer on this planet to get a resounding yes to the Lumia 950 and 950 XL..... with frequent firmware updates and all!

    I guess I can say it now, Thread. I love you. And because of our love... you can let go. It's okay. You don't have to fight anymore. Go home and meet your maker. I know, deep in my tired heart, that there is a place for you in Thread Heaven. I'm even more sure that there is a Lumia 5000 XXL with a Quad to the tenth power Double Snap(dragon) with a Twist processor and a 10k screen just for you! Glance, all week battery life and in colors! My god.... look at all the colors!

    Go then, there are other worlds than these.


    *Just having a little fun everyone. I too am a disappointed Verizon customer not sure of what I'll do next.
    10-18-2015 09:37 AM
  10. Generalheed's Avatar
    Yeah that news is totally unfortunate... Now that we know it was Verizon's fault, we don't even know if the Surface Phone will be available on Verizon...
    10-18-2015 04:51 PM
  11. luxnws's Avatar
    Yeah that news is totally unfortunate... Now that we know it was Verizon's fault, we don't even know if the Surface Phone will be available on Verizon...
    Will the 950/950 XL work on Sprint's network?
    10-18-2015 06:07 PM
  12. libra89's Avatar
    Will the 950/950 XL work on Sprint's network?
    I doubt it, since they use similar technologies.
    10-18-2015 07:31 PM
  13. Mr. MacPhisto's Avatar
    Been talking to some Verizon customer service people and some people at MS after some tweets caught their attention.

    Verizon has to authenticate the phone and they have no choice as long as it passes a certified third party inspection, but Microsoft has to foot the bill for the inspection. It sounds like MS may do that from the back and forth, but it has not been done yet because there are no manufactured models yet. All phones are technically prototypes and the manufacturing lines have not been fired up yet. Conjecture on my part based on what I've been told by VZW and Microsoft, but MS may submit the phone for CDMA certification to a third party. If that goes through, Verizon must list the IMEI numbers and allow activation or Microsoft can lodge a complaint with the FCC.

    It sounds like Microsoft does not want to have anyone counting on these phones to work on Verizon upon announcement and it is possible that it will not ship with CDMA bands, but Microsoft may sell it unlocked CDMA at a later date after all the hurdles have been cleared, the phone is certified, and they can confirm VZW activation.

    Again, I'm reading between the lines but have talked to people at both companies. Verizon is adamant that they will allow the phone if it passes the necessary hurdles that the FCC allows (and this third party verification is part of the LTE agreement VZW did with the FCC) and Microsoft insists that they have no problem selling the phone with CDMA bands unlocked if Verizon will activate it. But it sounds like it can't be verified until factory models come out.

    Moto X works now, but it took time for the factory phones to be verified before Verizon allowed them. This is something they are allowed to do according to the FCC. Now any Moto X Pure should work because the IMEI has been added.

    We'll see what happens. Verizon also promised me that they have other "exciting Windows 10 Mobile offerings" in the pipeline that will be revealed in the future near the Windows 10 Mobile launch. I keep hearing that HTC and LG are coming to the party and will offer Verizon phones. There's also noise that Acer will sell the Jade Primo unlocked directly and in MS Stores and will get the CDMA bands verified independently of Verizon to force a listing.

    I guess I would just say that we all need to stay tuned and keep out ears to the ground.
    10-18-2015 07:47 PM
  14. goodsit2's Avatar
    Been talking to some Verizon customer service people and some people at MS after some tweets caught their attention.
    Sounds like we need some more tweets!
    10-19-2015 02:22 AM
  15. aximtreo's Avatar
    For $35, no added fees, you can get 2.5GB data, at slower about 10MBps speeds on Cricket and no overage charge if you go over 2.5GB, but are throttled to 128kb :eek:
    And the point of your post is?
    10-19-2015 09:31 AM
  16. Indistinguishable's Avatar
    We'll see what happens. Verizon also promised me that they have other "exciting Windows 10 Mobile offerings" in the pipeline that will be revealed in the future near the Windows 10 Mobile launch. I keep hearing that HTC and LG are coming to the party and will offer Verizon phones. There's also noise that Acer will sell the Jade Primo unlocked directly and in MS Stores and will get the CDMA bands verified independently of Verizon to force a listing.
    Came to hear about this. Keep us posted on this!
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    10-19-2015 09:48 AM
  17. 920Walker's Avatar
    And the point of your post is?
    I was trying to be helpful by showing one of AT&T's subsidiaries that can save you and anyone else $20/month for very similar plans. Just an option for those leaving VZW.
    aximtreo likes this.
    10-19-2015 10:57 AM
  18. dksf42's Avatar
    +100 for our company and our almost 200 customers in Silicon Valley = Verizon + Microsoft are NOT just letting down us "personally" but with all of the NEW Windows Phone "ads" that will showcase the "Enterprise to the smallest of startups" =

    = the POWER of Windows Phone 10 to "GET WORK DONE"!
    10-19-2015 12:13 PM
  19. WPhoner's Avatar
    ok, what about canada?!
    Ive been a die-hard supporter of Windows Phone since WP7 and now there's no carrier support at all! Rogers completely sucked at advertising ANY Windows phones, but at least I could get (my 920 at the time) through them. Theres a MS store in the area (Toronto) where I can purchase the phone outright but at $850 CDN +tax which is pretty steep. PLUS with all of this BAND confusion, which carrier is going to accept it?, or ban it all together?, either of these scenarios leaves me with a $1000 brick. we need a carrier, and some clarification up here, big time.
    10-19-2015 01:11 PM
  20. Generalheed's Avatar
    ok, what about canada?!
    Ive been a die-hard supporter of Windows Phone since WP7 and now there's no carrier support at all! Rogers completely sucked at advertising ANY Windows phones, but at least I could get (my 920 at the time) through them. Theres a MS store in the area (Toronto) where I can purchase the phone outright but at $850 CDN +tax which is pretty steep. PLUS with all of this BAND confusion, which carrier is going to accept it?, or ban it all together?, either of these scenarios leaves me with a $1000 brick. we need a carrier, and some clarification up here, big time.
    You'll be fine in Canada. The CDMA issue with this phone really only affects US carriers for the most part. Most carriers globally use GSM networks now.
    10-19-2015 01:17 PM
  21. DavidinCT's Avatar
    Uh why bother with Wi-Fi? Because Wi-Fi is still fast and you can get a cheaper plan bro. Do you even have a realistic idea of how much data you HAVE to use? Spend a month with Wi-Fi on and then check the data sense app, you might surprise yourself. I have 10 people sharing 15Gb of data, and we almost never get to the edge of it.
    All I can say to that is, GOOD FOR YOU. To each their own, That is how you use your phone and I stated how I use mine.

    Prefer not to worry about it because I have that option to, most people today can not. You can have 15gb of data for what (assuming Verizon)? $70 a month ? I know 18gb is $100 now, so you need to be close to that.... I'll stick with my $25 for unlimited...

    No question a to each their own...

    .Verizon also promised me that they have other "exciting Windows 10 Mobile offerings" in the pipeline that will be revealed in the future near the Windows 10 Mobile launch.
    Verizon Customer service reps giving accurate information like this ? For me, it's hard to believe but, I hope your right.

    I know you have some inside sources and thanks for the post but, knowing deep of Verizon support of Windows Phone, dont mind me if I question it, even a little...

    Yep and I bet we get the 550....Not the high end models we desire... OR maybe Microsoft disabled CDMA on the 950XL because Verizon had something in the works (949XL ?)....but, why is Paul and Mary Jo, who have some very inside contacts at Microsoft saying the other way around, to quote "Verizon customers should just give up on Windows Phone because it's not going to happen"... and other models that have 1/2 the features of the 950XL, not even remotly interested.

    Not sure if this helps or makes things worse :- /
    Last edited by DavidinCT; 10-19-2015 at 02:24 PM.
    10-19-2015 01:30 PM
  22. Jay George's Avatar
    Verizon also promised me that they have other "exciting Windows 10 Mobile offerings" in the pipeline that will be revealed in the future near the Windows 10 Mobile launch.
    By which they mean a couple of dirt cheap prepaid-quality phones with a 640x480 resistive screen, a 1.2 MP rear facing camera, and a 900 mWh battery. Emblazoned with a giant Verizon logo and available in your choice of salmon or seafoam.
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    10-19-2015 02:58 PM
  23. djarchow's Avatar
    ok, what about canada?.
    There hasn't been much talk about Canada here since this thread is mostly about Verizon, but I think it is interesting that no carrier in Canada is going to be selling these phones either. I understand that Microsoft is being selective who they have relationships with (I don't agree with that but I understand) but at some point if the goal is to actually sell Windows phones, then you need carriers to actually sell them.

    Here is a good article related to this saying Microsoft doesn't really want to sell WP in the US.
    Microsoft Doesn't Really Want to Sell Windows Phones in the U.S. | Sascha Segan | PCMag.com

    Lots of speculation but I like the tweets from the head product manager at T-Mobile saying:

    "I like Windows phone, but I don't think Microsoft does, otherwise they would treat it differently."
    10-19-2015 03:25 PM
  24. dksf42's Avatar
    RATS ... so, why isn't Microsoft this aggressive?

    Google is giving out 'instant' Project Fi invitations for one day
    10-19-2015 04:06 PM
  25. sprtfan's Avatar
    We'll see what happens. Verizon also promised me that they have other "exciting Windows 10 Mobile offerings" in the pipeline that will be revealed in the future near the Windows 10 Mobile launch. I keep hearing that HTC and LG are coming to the party and will offer Verizon phones. There's also noise that Acer will sell the Jade Primo unlocked directly and in MS Stores and will get the CDMA bands verified independently of Verizon to force a listing.
    I think this fits with Microsoft alluding to before that they are a software company and will make hardware to show what their software can do and show other vendors what can be done. Microsoft would benefit long term by having HTC, LG, ect.. step up and offer compelling phones that run Windows 10 Mobile. Not having the 950/950 XL on Verizon would give others a space to fill and a reason to try. If they fall short or don't try, MS submits the phone for CDMA certification to a third party and have it on Verizon. Maybe they are just in a waiting game right now as they are working things out and the reason MS or Verizon has not come out and specifically said yes or no is because its not determined yet.
    I had given up hope of a 950/950 XL on Verizon but was still hoping for something good from another manufacturer. As long as one of the two options happen I'll be happy.
    10-19-2015 04:38 PM
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