11-23-2015 01:15 PM
331 12345 ...
tools
  1. feereless's Avatar
    wait wait. someone put a verizon sim in? which sim slot? there are two :P
    maybe one is dedicated towards cdma towers and the other gsm towers?? they did say it had two radios...
    10-08-2015 04:53 PM
  2. o4komodo's Avatar
    The sales rep showed me how to take the back off using the USB charger slot and applying pressure there. Seems pretty easy to get off and put back on.
    I would have assumed you used that little slit at the bottom left (probably where one of the mics are)


    No you can't customize it. If you look close at the demo that WinCentral posted on the 6th of the 950 XL when they pulled the action bar down it's the same.. that one stray icon in the top left corner.
    Wow that's... pretty lame. I always assumed you could fully customize the action bar (in expanded mode). I hope they release an update where this is possible. That stray icon really is annoying.
    dgr_874 likes this.
    10-08-2015 04:55 PM
  3. jvanlew's Avatar
    After playing with it at my local Microsoft Store, I pre-ordered it. I'm actually returning my iPhone 6s Plus today (today is the last day of the 14 day return!) so I can get this 950 XL when it drops. I loved the way it felt. It is super light but even with the poly back, it felt very sturdy and the buttons felt rigid. The buttons actually felt identical to my Lumia 830 buttons.

    It was running WinMo 10 Build 10546. I played with the camera and took some 4k and 1080p 60FPS videos and while the recording of the videos was a little laggy (probably beta camera software related), the playback was pristine for both. The girl I spoke to was pretty knowledgeable and even quoted Legere's tweet this AM about carrying the 950 line. She also said that they likely won't work on Verizon at this point in time. Things could obviously change before release but they don't have CDMA support. Take that for what it's worth

    Coincidentally, I also pre-ordered two Band 2s for me and my wife.
    MikeSo, Jazmac, ectobs and 4 others like this.
    10-08-2015 05:25 PM
  4. Zachary Boddy's Avatar
    Good feedback so far. How's the screen looking compared to the 1520? I know, completely different screen technologies and resolutions and even sizes but the 1520 has the best screen ever put in a Windows Phone.
    And is there any creaking with the back?
    How do the curved corners feel?
    And does the screen feel nice under hand?
    10-08-2015 05:43 PM
  5. ttsoldier's Avatar
    These phones remind me of the 535... :( Looks cheap.

    No Microsoft store where I am.. Hope it has a premium feel...

    In this video... I find the OS looks very sluggish when he is navigating through the photos, pressing back etc. There is one part of the video where there is a super long delay after he presses the back button. Hopefully when the OS RTMS it will be a lot smoother.

    10-08-2015 05:49 PM
  6. narv's Avatar
    Good feedback so far. How's the screen looking compared to the 1520? I know, completely different screen technologies and resolutions and even sizes but the 1520 has the best screen ever put in a Windows Phone.
    And is there any creaking with the back?
    How do the curved corners feel?
    And does the screen feel nice under hand?
    I can't comment to the comparison to the 1520, but I picked up the 640XL that was sitting next to it and it was a clearer picture. I assume it would be clearer since it has a higher resolution. WinCentral did a comparison at: How does the new Microsoft Lumia 950XL compare to the Lumia 1520 | Windows Central

    I didn't really press on it or anything to see for sounds but the back fits pretty solid on there and flush with the phone. The phone felt great in the hand and the screen did as well, much better than my 920 does (which has a slight "rub against glass" feeling). It just overall felt and worked smoothly.
    MikeSo and Hoekie like this.
    10-08-2015 06:15 PM
  7. Sedp23's Avatar
    I'm going to try to go to the Microsoft store here in Chicago and see if they have it at the Oak brook store maybe tomorrow
    10-08-2015 06:34 PM
  8. TexasLabRat's Avatar
    The Iris Scan looks promising. It's funny (and perhaps indicative of bias?) to see some of the commentary in the tech press about the Iris Scan, basically speculating that it won't work or that you'll have to somehow boggle your eyes or place the phone right up to your eye socket. . . . And when the speculation is corrected, they suggest that if it takes more than a blink it will be an affront and entirely unworkable. It seems to me that the Iris Scan is potentially less cumbersome than a finger print scan. Is it as secure? Can you simply turn it off? I like Windows Hello a lot, but I've survived without it so far. I think the resistance to the idea of an Iris Scan is sometimes part of the overall bias against MS. You have people actually arguing that having to look at the screen is somehow awkward or burdensome, when it is instead the very thing you would and will be doing anyway when you pick up your handheld.

    Everyone's just waiting for Apple to "invent" it.
    MikeSo, ajj3085, ectobs and 2 others like this.
    10-08-2015 06:56 PM
  9. worldspy99's Avatar
    I am going to the Store down in Woodland Hills tonight and will report back tomorrow:-)
    libra89 and TechFreak1 like this.
    10-08-2015 07:01 PM
  10. bo_woods's Avatar
    I also was able to get my hands on a 950 XL.... I likeit aesthetically much more than my 1520.. Not only does it look better IMHO, but some design elements of the 950 are actually logically better.

    • Flat Display (screen protectors can go edge to edge now)
    • Rounded Corners (More comfortable and ergonomic in hand)
    • Smaller Bezels (believe it or not the bottom and side bezels are actually very small)
    • Removable Back Shell (Looks Seamless and removes need for exposed sd/sim slots , Allows removable battery, and easily exchangeable shells for different colors and finishes. There are apparently even 3rd party backs that have an aluminum rim, which'll pretty much give it the style of a 930 or 830 for those ppl who loved polycarbonate to death when Nokia did it with the 1520 but all of a sudden say its not premium when MS does it)
    • Speakers at the top mean my hand won't cover it up when I'm holding the device (I admit front facing speakers would be nicer, but I guess these devices are better off without them as ppl here would just ignore the grace of front facing speakers and instead direct hate at "the big bezels" due to them)
    10-08-2015 07:16 PM
  11. CygnusOrion's Avatar
    Flat out I think Lumia 950 series are the best Windows Phones ever created.
    editguy and rxc13 like this.
    10-08-2015 07:37 PM
  12. bo_woods's Avatar
    I also got to play around with the new Pro 4... My store sadly doesn't have the Surface Book Yet, and is currently petitioning for it.

    I Love the new Keyboard, Pen, and Larger, Higher Res Display (same foot print but larger display due to smaller bezels). The MS rep told me since I have a Pro 3 It would be better just to buy the new pen and keyboard, instead of getting the new Surface but from the iris scanner, to the thinner body, to the larger and sharper display with slimmer bezels, and improved cameras all the way down to the new shiny MS square logo... I STILL WANT IT

    I would set the Surface Book as my goal, but since I'm more of an "Artist/Creative Software" based Surface™ User who is often dabbling in Toon Boom Harmony, Sony Video Editing Programs, and Art Rage instead of tasks that are more suitable for a laptop, I don't think I would really benefit that much from it... I like the idea of the larger display, but I like how the Pro series has the flippable keyboard that can simply be folded back, and you can ease the Surface lower with the Kickstand to create a Cintiq-like set up... With the Surface Book, it appears to be Laptop, Clipboard, or clipboard with a keyboard on the back.... from what I've seen in videos the hinge doesn't look stiff enough to hold still while someone rests their palm on the display and pushes down their pen all over and across the display. The screen would simply have to lay on the way down, which creates a slant that slopes down towards the direction I am facing which is the opposite effect artist want IMO.

    Surface Pro 4- Tablet/Small Clipboard, Laptop with light thin board, or angled display with keyboard out of the way

    Surface Book- Large Tablet/Big Clipboard or Laptop with Sturdy board

    (taking the tablet off, flipping it around and clipping it back on backwards essentially achieves the same effect as using it as a stand alone tablet, just without USB ports, and the extra powerful GPU ( onto the S-Book only) which is why I don't include the positions of having the keyboard folded on the back of these devices)

    The maxed out S-Book essentially has the better gpu, more ports, thinner chassis, larger display (same PPI), and sturdier laptop mode going by videos, review and spec sheets.

    I would somewhat like the Surface Book more for the better gpu, extra USB port, thinner chassis, LARGER DISPLAY, and sturdier laptop mode.... but I like how quickly I can switch between laptop and "Cintiq mode" on the SP3... but to really come to a firm conclusion I'll need to actually experience for myself this 'ultimate laptop' going by the name of Surface Book... It might just in fact be able to perfectly produce the 'Cintiq mode' position just fine and I'm just a stupid mouse.... I'll find out :)
    Last edited by bo_woods; 10-08-2015 at 07:54 PM.
    narv likes this.
    10-08-2015 07:42 PM
  13. ClixT's Avatar
    So I went to my local MS store to check out the Surface Book, but they didn't have it in that store so I checked out the 950XL and to my surprise, it's not a bad looking device at all. It's definitely lighter than my 920 and 1020, it's bigger but I can hold it with my small hands. Screen is superb as well. Conclusion: I went from disliking the device's design to I may consider getting it. Oh and they didn't have the 950 so I couldn't try it. I'll go to the other store to try that and the Book. Also the new Surface pen works for SP3.
    narv and roystreet like this.
    10-08-2015 07:49 PM
  14. Nikita Van Vinci's Avatar
    What about autofocus speed? How fast is it compared to l930?
    10-08-2015 07:54 PM
  15. bo_woods's Avatar
    What about autofocus speed? How fast is it compared to l930?

    As fast as the 950 XL took photos in my experience, it was damn near instant... as matter of fact... It IS instant
    Hoekie and Nikita Van Vinci like this.
    10-08-2015 07:58 PM
  16. Kram Sacul's Avatar
    These phones remind me of the 535... :( Looks cheap.
    The 535 came in different colors at least.

    Still not feeling the 950XL or the 950. On one hand the inside hardware is great. Probably everything a flagship device should have (-on screen buttons). That's about it though. The 1520 had way more style going on even if it was a monster.

    Whenever I see the back of the 950XL I think of the back of the HTC One X with the camera circle from the 830 tacked on. They must've had a lot of those leftover.

    htc-one-x-back.jpg
    10-08-2015 08:09 PM
  17. TechFreak1's Avatar
    Thanks for the info everyone, relieved to hear that the demo units were actually dual sim models. As typically we don't get the dual sim options on the high end, here's hoping we get the dual sim versions in the UK too.

    Anyone have any comments about the button placement on the XL?
    10-08-2015 08:30 PM
  18. mckoo's Avatar
    Nice....I'll be going to play this thing on the first day it appears in my country...
    10-08-2015 09:17 PM
  19. ArtificiallyYours's Avatar
    The jelly is real...
    10-08-2015 09:25 PM
  20. narv's Avatar
    Thanks for the info everyone, relieved to hear that the demo units were actually dual sim models. As typically we don't get the dual sim options on the high end, here's hoping we get the dual sim versions in the UK too.

    Anyone have any comments about the button placement on the XL?
    I was surprised too by the dual sim but I'm glad it's an option though I personally wouldn't use it I know there are a lot of people who will. When you mean button do you mean the onscreen keys or the buttons on the side of the XL? I'll address both from my perspective at least.

    For the on screen buttons, coming from the 920 I've never had on screen so I was hesitant and only real info I had was reading comments on here about how "low end" it is. But honestly I LOVED them. They have a vibrate response when you hit the buttons so it's like pressing a button. And then you can hide them. One of my BIGGEST pet peeves with the 920 is when I turn my phone side-ways to watch a video, I will occasionally hit the back button or god forbid I hit the effin Cortana button. On screen you can swipe to hide the keys to avoid that. Adds a little extra room too on the screen. I absolutely love these now (plus they have color with your theme color too if I'm not mistaken so that's pretty cool! adds more personalization)

    As for the side buttons, they were small and took some getting used to but weren't really an issue. I don't hate the broken up power and vol keys but it is different. With the bigger screen size I feel the buttons are more "centered". I assume so you don't have to reach to get to them. But I felt myself having to almost reach IN to hit the buttons. But I'm sure that is just something I can get used to. The buttons are actually part of the back and not the phone itself. So to me it looks like backs COULD (in theory) have buttons that have a themed design as well. For those interested in that kind of look.
    10-08-2015 09:28 PM
  21. TechFreak1's Avatar
    I was surprised too by the dual sim but I'm glad it's an option though I personally wouldn't use it I know there are a lot of people who will. When you mean button do you mean the onscreen keys or the buttons on the side of the XL? I'll address both from my perspective at least.

    For the on screen buttons, coming from the 920 I've never had on screen so I was hesitant and only real info I had was reading comments on here about how "low end" it is. But honestly I LOVED them. They have a vibrate response when you hit the buttons so it's like pressing a button. And then you can hide them. One of my BIGGEST pet peeves with the 920 is when I turn my phone side-ways to watch a video, I will occasionally hit the back button or god forbid I hit the effin Cortana button. On screen you can swipe to hide the keys to avoid that. Adds a little extra room too on the screen. I absolutely love these now (plus they have color with your theme color too if I'm not mistaken so that's pretty cool! adds more personalization)

    As for the side buttons, they were small and took some getting used to but weren't really an issue. I don't hate the broken up power and vol keys but it is different. With the bigger screen size I feel the buttons are more "centered". I assume so you don't have to reach to get to them. But I felt myself having to almost reach IN to hit the buttons. But I'm sure that is just something I can get used to. The buttons are actually part of the back and not the phone itself. So to me it looks like backs COULD (in theory) have buttons that have a themed design as well. For those interested in that kind of look.
    Thanks for the detailed post .

    You wouldn't be able use cases with different button layouts as the buttons have a small rubber contact inside the phone and the buttons on the case have a little nub on them (inside the case).

    So when the case buttons are pressed, the nub pushes down on the rubber contact on the phone thus initiating an action on the screen. This principle is true for all physical buttons - keyboard, mouse etc.

    You could of course use cases with different styled buttons but the layout cannot be altered.
    10-08-2015 09:51 PM
  22. narv's Avatar
    Thanks for the detailed post .

    You wouldn't be able use cases with different button layouts as the buttons have a small rubber contact inside the phone and the buttons on the case have a little nub on them (inside the case).

    So when the case buttons are pressed, the nub pushes down on the rubber contact on the phone thus initiating an action on the screen. This principle is true for all physical buttons - keyboard, mouse etc.

    You could of course use cases with different styled buttons but the layout cannot be altered.
    Sorry if I wasn't clear, yes that is what I meant. The layout can't change, but they can be styled.
    10-08-2015 10:18 PM
  23. TechFreak1's Avatar
    Sorry if I wasn't clear, yes that is what I meant. The layout can't change, but they can be styled.
    Ah okay, I don't suppose you got check if the surface pen works with the XL?
    10-08-2015 10:19 PM
  24. wayn1ak's Avatar
    Saw the Lumia 950 XL in store tonight. I was set on white but the black actually looks quite classy. The side buttons have a nice solid feel when you press them. The bezels are very nice. Actually, the phone isn't that much bigger than my HTC One M8 so that's good for pocketbility and it felt really light.

    Software wise, W10M is quick and fluid. There are some glitches I came across but I know this is all being improved. For example, the slider for display brightness in settings wasn't very smooth and stuttered when you moved the slider around. Making app folders on the start screen was finicky and wouldn't cooperate.

    The camera was super fast!! Although, the autofocus had a bit of trouble sometimes (software can fix it I'm sure). Picture quality was amazing and crisp.

    BTW, my store had a Surface Book but they were still prepping it. One of the employees was nice enough to bring it out (powered off) so that a bunch of us can fondle it for a few minutes hahaha
    64GUNSHIP, Hoekie, narv and 2 others like this.
    10-08-2015 10:21 PM
  25. MikeSo's Avatar
    About the bezel, yeah I was surprised how small it was. On the sides, it was actually a tiny bit smaller than on the Icon, I believe. Very nicely done.
    10-08-2015 10:23 PM
331 12345 ...

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 1
    Last Post: 11-03-2015, 04:51 PM
  2. Can Edge be updated via the store?
    By crise in forum Edge
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 11-01-2015, 12:56 PM
  3. Confirmed india will get dual version 950 and 950xl
    By jeetu4444 in forum Microsoft Lumia 950
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 10-20-2015, 02:25 PM
  4. I can't find the app,Sonic Dash on my phone. Where is it?
    By Ddarn in forum Windows Phone 8.1
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 10-17-2015, 06:54 PM
LINK TO POST COPIED TO CLIPBOARD