10-19-2015 11:12 AM
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  1. imnotevenhererightnow's Avatar
    So you did read the article but chose to fain ignorance of the detail anyway? That is even worse. I knew what to make of it as soon as I read the first line of the second paragraph. To wit: "From conversations with Store staff, it appears that there’s an issue with the prototypes themselves, and not simply with the installed software." But you said, you don't know what to make of it. Which is what got my ire up. Not heavy just the same though. Carry on.
    It would be feign ignorance. Now, before this devolves further, it wasn't feigned ignorance, it was an acknowledgement that I wasn't sure what to make of it.

    If you managed to divine the inner workings of MS corporate, fine. I didn't. Because I didn't, I invited others to join in. Simple as that. I don't enjoy making things personal. So you can either relax and participate in the thread or just see your way out. Either way, I don't much care.
    920Walker likes this.
    10-17-2015 02:14 AM
  2. peachy001's Avatar
    I see some thinking that this is semi positive, I think not. I suspect that there is a more pressing issue. Neowin updated their story with a quote from MS. In my opinion, it is a serious hardware problem, or else they would not have been pulled so quickly.
    10-17-2015 02:48 AM
  3. Krystianpants's Avatar
    I did go to the MS store here and they said they were told to pull them right away. Both 950 and 950XL were pulled. Some did report the 950XL running super hot in some stores. The assumption was it was hooked to the battery all day. It could even be a bettery issue who knows. Which can only be discovered if it's plugged in constantly.
    10-17-2015 10:28 AM
  4. peachy001's Avatar
    By the sound of that, it seems there is a definite issue. I may have to keep the 920 a little longer, or consider the 950.
    10-17-2015 11:45 AM
  5. adrian1338's Avatar
    thank god I have the 950 xl on preorder.. bet it is the qualcom
    Last edited by adrian1338; 10-17-2015 at 12:57 PM.
    10-17-2015 12:07 PM
  6. Krystianpants's Avatar
    By the sound of that, it seems there is a definite issue. I may have to keep the 920 a little longer, or consider the 950.
    I'm going to wait for reviews. I know even Lumia 830 apparently had problems on a first revision. People were not getting the back snapping in properly among other issues like slowness. But it could also be that MS isn't satisfied with what is being displayed at this time and pulled them based off MS store employee feedback. It's both the 950/950xl that are being pulled. At least here in Canada.
    10-17-2015 12:36 PM
  7. lancorp's Avatar
    I noticed the 950XL I had my hands on was very warm also. I only used it for 10-15 minutes, so maybe that was it. I thought it was interesting that the phones were not security-tethered at the store. You could take them off the charger and walk around the store with one. I'm used to other stores having 12-inch leashes on the phone.

    But, yeah...the warm/hot area on the back of the phone did concern me. Hot = battery drain.
    10-17-2015 01:24 PM
  8. zkyevolved's Avatar
    Amoled screens run warmer when on longer. It's not like a traditional led. Each pixel illuminates itself.

    Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
    10-17-2015 01:57 PM
  9. anon(5383410)'s Avatar
    Possibly the rumoured Surface Pen functionality hopefully.
    If they were going to include a "surface pen" they would've demo'd it at the devices event. If it was so raw they didn't want to show it off then the phones would probably be delayed until 2016.
    10-17-2015 02:01 PM
  10. fiveaces01's Avatar
    You guys that are willing and able to shell out nearly 1000 dollars, for a phone that is this companies (MS) first attempt at a flagship type device, must be a lot more comfortable financially than I am. In my world, 1000 dollars should buy a lot more than uncertainty. And I will never spend that much on a phone.
    10-17-2015 02:35 PM
  11. ajj3085's Avatar
    You guys that are willing and able to shell out nearly 1000 dollars, for a phone that is this companies (MS) first attempt at a flagship type device, must be a lot more comfortable financially than I am. In my world, 1000 dollars should buy a lot more than uncertainty. And I will never spend that much on a phone.
    What uncertainty? MS already said these were prototypes, and it stands to reason they were always going to be sent back. There's nothing indicating something is wrong with the phone, but even if there was, it was still a prototype, not the finished version.
    10-17-2015 03:08 PM
  12. camptime's Avatar
    Microsoft just shot themselves in the foot by showing these demo units in store then pulling them. Now all the tec sights are just going to run with the hardware is faulty crap bla bla bla, Making it even harder for Microsoft to shift phones. I know they think they were doing the correct thing but after all the ribbing they have had over the years they should know better.
    10-17-2015 08:54 PM
  13. GSOgymrat's Avatar
    Last weeks Lumia 950 and Lumia 950 XL phones announcements generated huge interest. We made some prototype devices available for a limited time in our retail stores, so that customers could get an early look at our best Windows experience with Windows 10, on our most productive smartphones ever. Weve now removed the prototypes from the stores as we finalize the experience, and look forward to rolling the phones out next month.

    I don't see any problem with rolling out prototypes of the 950 XL, demo models essentially, to capitalize on the launch of Surface Pro 4, Band 2 and Surface Book. Microsoft didn't even have enough Surface Books to display in every store. I think having all the products together, especially given the focus of Windows 10, was important. The phones are obviously not ready yet but if Microsoft had waited it would have pushed the launch into November, which meant more time for consumers to buy competitive products for the holidays.
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    10-17-2015 10:22 PM
  14. hapishyguy's Avatar
    Why would they not pull the 950? The only reason would be the 950xl has some serious heating issues that may have been frying internal parts. Anything is possible. Granted they are not apple and don't need to pre-manufacturer way ahead due to demand not being as insane
    I played for good 1 hour and no heat felt.
    10-17-2015 11:34 PM
  15. zkyevolved's Avatar
    I played for good 1 hour and no heat felt.
    Not all prototypes are created equally xD.

    Sent from my LG-H815 using Tapatalk
    10-18-2015 07:52 AM
  16. Cabo Blue's Avatar
    I, too, experienced a 950XL in an MSFT store.
    The first thing I did notice was the heat coming from it.
    However it didn't seem too much different from my 1520.
    Screen response was nearly the same.
    Opening apps had about the same time lapse.
    Much easier to hold in my hand than my 1520.
    Unfortunately, I'll be waiting the Surface phone release.
    10-18-2015 08:09 PM
  17. Jazmac's Avatar
    It would be feign ignorance. Now, before this devolves further, it wasn't feigned ignorance, it was an acknowledgement that I wasn't sure what to make of it.

    If you managed to divine the inner workings of MS corporate, fine. I didn't. Because I didn't, I invited others to join in. Simple as that. I don't enjoy making things personal. So you can either relax and participate in the thread or just see your way out. Either way, I don't much care.
    Yes a typo. I stand corrected. Also, its not about inner workings of Microsoft. I read beyond the first paragraph. No biggy. Thanks for the typo correct.
    10-18-2015 09:04 PM
  18. Waughy's Avatar
    I haven't been following the Whirlpool discussion but if you look at the USD cost of the other devices they are selling, like the Surface Pro 4 and Surface Book, convert to AUD at about 71c and then add GST the prices are pretty much equivalent. BUT if you do the same with the 950 & 950XL then the AUD prices are $250-$300 more expensive than they 'should' be.
    I haven't done the numbers closely myself, but the discussions on Whirlpool sounded about right to me.
    That is a fair difference if it works out how you say. But, what can we do, pay the price, wait and hope retailers take some off, or hold out until prices start to come down, however long that takes. I'll be looking at Telstra pricing as my first option, hopefully they get the phone, let alone offer a decent plan.
    10-18-2015 10:13 PM
  19. CygnusOrion's Avatar
    Microsoft just shot themselves in the foot by showing these demo units in store then pulling them. Now all the tec sights are just going to run with the hardware is faulty crap bla bla bla, Making it even harder for Microsoft to shift phones. I know they think they were doing the correct thing but after all the ribbing they have had over the years they should know better.
    Point me to the dozens of news stories about this? The fact is the tech world just doesn't care about Lumia phones.
    10-18-2015 10:13 PM
  20. djca's Avatar
    Have the 950 and 950 XL been approved by the FCC for US use already? If not, then I think that could be one of the reasons why they were pulled out. I don't think it's allowed to accept preorders for devices without first gaining FCC approval. Not sure if they're even allowed to publicly display them.
    10-19-2015 11:12 AM
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