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  1. missionsparta's Avatar
    Really? Still no REAL preorders? No dates? What in all hell are they doing and whose idea was it to announce a device and have no game plan to release it? EVERY other device shown at the presentation has taken official preorders and given ship dates. If and when this phone misses its sale marks, this will be a major reason why. Microsoft doesnt fire enough people. So many mistakes and not enough head rolling after each one.
    10-22-2015 01:44 PM
  2. ashram's Avatar
    take a deep breath and calm down....

    Preorders are supposedly going live early November. Now a ship date would be great, but currently guesstimated to be mid to late november. All that matters for a preorder is the ability to do it before the product ships. Even if preorders open up a week before shipping, it's fine. Post companies won't charge you until the item is about to ship, so no money lost on your end, and nothing gained on their end.
    nohra, Sedp23 and Bartdog like this.
    10-22-2015 02:12 PM
  3. wiederman's Avatar
    Yeah completely agree with this... preorders should begin especially since the phones are supposed to ship mid november... probably has a lot to do with the fact that the OS is still not completed
    Jeddic likes this.
    10-22-2015 02:16 PM
  4. aitt's Avatar
    Well I "preordered" at the store so just waiting now to pay for it and pick up.

    Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
    nohra likes this.
    10-22-2015 02:51 PM
  5. pjm1891's Avatar
    It's weird you guys haven't gotten a date yet, when many European countries have a release date and active pre-orders.
    metalb00, nohra and theefman like this.
    10-22-2015 02:58 PM
  6. HoosierDaddy's Avatar
    It's weird you guys haven't gotten a date yet
    Leave their love life out of it.
    10-22-2015 03:07 PM
  7. ksj1's Avatar
    It's simple. They legally can't accept pre-orders or any kind of order for the devices until they have received final FCC approval.
    10-22-2015 03:28 PM
  8. Marcin Dabrowsky's Avatar
    It's simple. They legally can't accept pre-orders or any kind of order for the devices until they have received final FCC approval.
    Bingo

    Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
    rollindice and Jeddic like this.
    10-22-2015 11:56 PM
  9. missionsparta's Avatar
    It's simple. They legally can't accept pre-orders or any kind of order for the devices until they have received final FCC approval.
    Then why the hell didn't they seek it long before the keynote? Your telling me Apple has that all set each year in time for that, and this is news to Microsoft? Again...ball dropping and someone's *** needs to be fired.
    anguilla1980 and Anubis4574 like this.
    10-23-2015 06:06 AM
  10. HoosierDaddy's Avatar
    It's simple. They legally can't accept pre-orders or any kind of order for the devices until they have received final FCC approval.
    Lots of strange things happen in govt, but it doesn't seem like pre-orders would be any concern of the FCC. That would more logically be some FTC regulation. I'm a little skeptical about it being illegal to take pre-orders on any product that isn't by its nature illegal, and maybe not even then. A company might be in trouble if the item didn't do what was promised when it finally arrived but there is zero reason to think that could happen.
    10-23-2015 06:43 AM
  11. ksj1's Avatar
    For those that doubt, read the section on page 4 titled "Marketing Regulations" of this FCC bulletin.

    BTW - This is almost certainly the reason the phones were pulled from the stores. They were marketing them and they cannot legally do that.
    10-23-2015 08:44 AM
  12. jmajid's Avatar
    For those that doubt, read the section on page 4 titled "Marketing Regulations" of this FCC bulletin.

    BTW - This is almost certainly the reason the phones were pulled from the stores. They were marketing them and they cannot legally do that.
    It looks like from that document, that importing is not allowed without the requisite FCC documentation...
    So, this begs the question, how did they manage to provide Surface Book and Surface Pro 4 without this FCC documentation?
    10-23-2015 09:47 AM
  13. ksj1's Avatar
    It looks like from that document, that importing is not allowed without the requisite FCC documentation...
    So, this begs the question, how did they manage to provide Surface Book and Surface Pro 4 without this FCC documentation?
    WiFi bands are unlicensed, so type approval is not needed. If they had an LTE version it would need to be licensed.
    mjperry51 likes this.
    10-23-2015 10:00 AM
  14. dksf42's Avatar
    I also did a pre-order at a Microsoft store and they said "October 26th" but I have not heard anything further - anyone get any type of update email?
    10-23-2015 10:03 AM
  15. jmajid's Avatar
    WiFi bands are unlicensed, so type approval is not needed. If they had an LTE version it would need to be licensed.
    well, even bluetooth requires approval... case in point, the many microsoft keyboards etc. on the OET website.
    10-23-2015 10:07 AM
  16. CaptainLumia's Avatar
    I feel frustrated as well. I bought a 640 XL back in May because I was excited to get a Windows 10 phone. Not only is it still not running Windows 10, but the screen got the well known yellow burn spot in under two months. I now have a phone that irritates me just by looking at it, and no end in sight. I got so desperate for something new that I bought a Moto X Pure last week to calm myself. Of course I was miserable with it and have since returned it for a full refund.

    Looking forward to a hard release date. Both of my local MS stores are NOT doing pre-orders and basically told me to sign up for an email notification on the website. I'd also like confirmation that the dual SIM model will be available in the US. I can cope with the single SIM version, but I'd like to know sooner, rather than later, so I can make a contingency plan.

    I work for a company who (similar to MS) is always behind the 8 ball on meeting customer due dates. So I understand why it happens (doing something right the first time) and as someone on the sales side of the company, I understand the customer frustrations. Here's hoping the 950 XL is in my hands sooner rather than later!
    10-23-2015 10:14 AM
  17. dinkatoid's Avatar
    I was at a Microsoft store last night and had asked about the phones. The employee told me they were hearing that the phones would be delayed until December. I can't say if there is any truth to that or not but as we get closer and closer to Nov it seems like it could be possible.
    10-23-2015 10:35 AM
  18. theefman's Avatar
    They probably need to ask advice from BlackBerry how to do it....

    BlackBerry opens pre-orders for new Priv Android flagship in UK, US and Canada
    10-23-2015 11:36 AM
  19. Jon_Rubinstein's Avatar
    SO what do we have here....

    A Phone that MS was embarrassed to show in the Oct 6th event. Panos seems embarrased that this is not really his product. They know they need to show something, otherwise the ship will completely sink. They have reallocated resources from the Mobile Team during year to get W10 done and now they are behind the 8 ball, AGAIN when it comes to Mobile phones. WM10 is NOT ready. They are not releasing the phone until it is ready.

    Something tells me Panos didnt even want to present these phones on Oct 6th, but he had no choice. The frustrating part is that we know MS can get their act together on almost all divisions but the Mobile group. Someone's head need to be chopped. DO they EVER meet any deliverable in this division? It is always an excuse. No wonder they have to abandon the consumer demographics and focus on business. With the way the Mobilegroup is going, they wouldn't even beat PALM at this game.

    TIME TO GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER IN MOBILE MS!!!!!!!!!!
    10-23-2015 12:00 PM
  20. fdalbor's Avatar
    The plain fact of the matter is this whole mobile thing is just taking WAY WAY TOO LONG. At least 8.1 works great. But I sure would like to see some progress, we can't even see the light at the end of the tunnel. Fact is I am not sure if we can be sure we are even in a tunnel. How much did they say the CEO got paid, for what (looking at the mobile side of things).
    tuxedo323 likes this.
    10-23-2015 01:49 PM
  21. aitt's Avatar
    I'm starting to lose interest. 950XL would have been a great return to WP.

    Now it just feels lackluster with all the detours

    Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
    10-23-2015 02:34 PM
  22. Lumious's Avatar
    At the MS store i was specifically told that i could preorder the 950XL from the store and it would cost 25$ to do so and everything else that i wanted i could also preorder for free (SP4 and SBook). Then once i have to pay for the phone the 25 would be deducted from the total cost of the phone. Now i havent heard anywhere that you could preorder the 950s yet so maybe the guys at the MS store don't even know what they were talking about.
    10-23-2015 02:47 PM
  23. Jon_Rubinstein's Avatar
    I preordered my for free at the MS Store in Dallas.
    10-23-2015 03:22 PM
  24. aitt's Avatar
    At the MS store i was specifically told that i could preorder the 950XL from the store and it would cost 25$ to do so and everything else that i wanted i could also preorder for free (SP4 and SBook). Then once i have to pay for the phone the 25 would be deducted from the total cost of the phone. Now i havent heard anywhere that you could preorder the 950s yet so maybe the guys at the MS store don't even know what they were talking about.
    It shouldn't even cost you $25. I preordered free

    Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
    10-23-2015 03:35 PM
  25. anthonyng's Avatar
    I pre-ordered both 950XL and 950 for free in Vancouver, BC.
    10-23-2015 03:49 PM
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