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  1. vincentwansink's Avatar
    Was in the Microsoft store today at West Edmonton Mall and they told me the phones have been delayed until sometime in December. She said probably early December.
    10-31-2015 06:23 PM
  2. tuxedo323's Avatar
    Was in the Microsoft store today at West Edmonton Mall and they told me the phones have been delayed until sometime in December. She said probably early December.
    These reps are as smart as a bag of hammers. As a test, I asked at 3 different stores and have received 3 different answers. Ranging from the first week of November to the day before Christmas. It's safe to say windows phone fans know more about MS products than their store employees.
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    10-31-2015 09:03 PM
  3. HoosierDaddy's Avatar
    These reps are as smart as a bag of hammers.
    Uh oh. You're gonna be hearing from the Hammers anti-defamation league.
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    10-31-2015 09:26 PM
  4. Babs75's Avatar
    My husband and I were at a mall in the Portland, Oregon area tonight and stopped at the Microsoft kiosk. They do not have any idea when the 950XL is going to be released for sale. They did not have a prototype sample, as theirs was pulled recently but said they are waiting for the 'real thing'. I did enjoy playing with the Band 2 and hoping I can purchase one for Christmas.
    10-31-2015 11:16 PM
  5. camptime's Avatar
    This whole non announcement about release dates is just crazy they should let those of us in Asia and Australia know when the new phones are going to hit the shelves. Thailand doesn't even have these phones listed on there website still.
    10-31-2015 11:42 PM
  6. alexx17's Avatar
    yup im chilling in the waiting room december can not come soon enough
    11-01-2015 08:00 AM
  7. Kevin Rush's Avatar
    My husband and I were at a mall in the Portland, Oregon area tonight and stopped at the Microsoft kiosk. They do not have any idea when the 950XL is going to be released for sale. They did not have a prototype sample, as theirs was pulled recently but said they are waiting for the 'real thing'. I did enjoy playing with the Band 2 and hoping I can purchase one for Christmas.
    My wife and I were at the Microsoft Store at Mall of America in Bloomington (Minneapolis/ St.Paul) Minnesota and had the same experience.
    11-01-2015 08:10 AM
  8. ariker01's Avatar
    Well I just saw they passed through the FCC today. Usually release dates are within a week or two after that based on my previous experience. I think it was just that MSFT didn't want the unpolished W10 being picked on by "reviewers" so they pulled them. In fact that's likely the reason for the slow fast ring builds..... making sure the new hardware is as tight as possible before release.
    Completely agree. Only reason we don't see these devices being sent to reviewers is Windows 10. The OS is the hold up.
    11-01-2015 08:28 AM
  9. aitt's Avatar
    Friend had a Nexus 6P. I drooled over the design. Waiting for the 950xl has become difficult.

    Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
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    11-01-2015 09:02 AM
  10. jmajid's Avatar
    Pre-ordered mine in a Houston MSFT store yesterday. Sales guy said they expected the first batch to arrive on Nov 30th and the next on Dec 6th. Take that info for what it is worth.

    Can't wait to get back to Windows Phone after 8 years. Left Sprint for Verizon to get a better Windows Phone back then (the phone turned out to be a dud and I jumped ship to Android), now it looks like I will be leaving Verizon for the same reason.
    Which store did you go to?
    did they have any demo units?
    did they happen to mention any special offers? perhaps a rebate for free dock?
    11-01-2015 09:57 AM
  11. RichHowerton's Avatar
    it's now November....it is supposed to be available in November...please announce a date MSOFT
    11-01-2015 10:59 AM
  12. Darron Smith1's Avatar
    Been there, done that..... And took it back. But Apple gives you 14 days to return so why not.
    I think you might have missed his joke ;)
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    11-01-2015 11:43 AM
  13. jcar302's Avatar
    These reps are as smart as a bag of hammers. As a test, I asked at 3 different stores and have received 3 different answers. Ranging from the first week of November to the day before Christmas. It's safe to say windows phone fans know more about MS products than their store employees.
    This is so true.
    It's poor training and communication with the in store MS sales people

    Not sure I've ever gotten an accurate answer at the Freehold NJ store.

    Try and preorder something at the store, my god they need to post the policy.
    For the band last year, I was on an official list, there was no list, and I was on the written list. How could all three be true? Answer was really, there was no list.

    Just a couple weeks ago I was told the smaller 950 was Canada only, let's see how that works out.

    It's just like buying a car, many times the consumer knows more about the car than the salesperson. That is never good for a company.
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    11-01-2015 11:46 AM
  14. HoosierDaddy's Avatar
    I think you might have missed his joke ;)
    Yeah, the 950s will be out WAY before the iPhone 18. Probably around iPhone 12 worst case.
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    11-01-2015 11:52 AM
  15. BFGJoe's Avatar
    Which store did you go to?
    did they have any demo units?
    did they happen to mention any special offers? perhaps a rebate for free dock?
    - Galleria
    - No demo units
    - No mention of special offers (but I did not ask)

    Honestly, I just dropped by to see if I could get any info, verify that they no longer had a demo, and take the MSFT store.com's advice to check my local store to see if they had any Icon's in stock after canceling my recent order. Was surprised to see a "950XL Pre-Order Now" sign. Rep said they had been taking orders for over 2 weeks.
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    11-01-2015 01:54 PM
  16. vincentwansink's Avatar
    My husband and I were at a mall in the Portland, Oregon area tonight and stopped at the Microsoft kiosk. They do not have any idea when the 950XL is going to be released for sale. They did not have a prototype sample, as theirs was pulled recently but said they are waiting for the 'real thing'. I did enjoy playing with the Band 2 and hoping I can purchase one for Christmas.
    Actually, at my store they also pulled the display units. I saw them when they first came in but they were sent back because of some kind of defect on the back. I dunno what exactly. The clerk was a little vague on that, but he made the point of saying that those were just "prototypes" anyway.

    The Best Buy guy today in Edmonton said he was told by his Microsoft reps that Best Buy would "probably" also sell the phones.
    11-01-2015 02:02 PM
  17. tuxedo323's Avatar
    Yeah, the 950s will be out WAY before the iPhone 18. Probably around iPhone 12 worst case.
    I'm going to pick up a V10 today.... Let's see how this plays out lol.
    Last edited by tuxedo323; 11-01-2015 at 05:38 PM.
    11-01-2015 04:29 PM
  18. Marcin Dabrowsky's Avatar
    stopped by ms store today for the $99 band with free screen protector and asked again since I preordered when display units were out during the few days last month, guy said they pushed it back once again and best he can tell me is "this holiday season". I don't know what that means.

    Posted via BlackBerry or Mumia phone. sometimes temporary awful android.
    11-01-2015 07:14 PM
  19. Marcin Dabrowsky's Avatar
    These reps are as smart as a bag of hammers. As a test, I asked at 3 different stores and have received 3 different answers. Ranging from the first week of November to the day before Christmas. It's safe to say windows phone fans know more about MS products than their store employees.
    Second time I went into the store knowing all there is to know about this phone a terrible rep told me "it's gonna be a nice phone, really nice battery and fast because it has octaquad" I almost threw up. How do they get hired ?

    Posted via BlackBerry or Mumia phone. sometimes temporary awful android.
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    11-01-2015 07:16 PM
  20. tuxedo323's Avatar
    Second time I went into the store knowing all there is to know about this phone a terrible rep told me "it's gonna be a nice phone, really nice battery and fast because it has octaquad" I almost threw up. How do they get hired ?

    Posted via BlackBerry or Mumia phone. sometimes temporary awful android.
    I was told "you should be excited because it runs Cortana". Serious WTF moment for me. I decided to extract as much entertainment value as I could out of this palaver by stating "rumor has it that it will come with iTunes preinstalled"..... Her eyes widened, and she said "yeah, it's going to be real cool".....
    11-01-2015 07:34 PM
  21. tuxedo323's Avatar
    yup im chilling in the waiting room december can not come soon enough
    Hang in there Alex, we are all drawing on our inner strength! I've gone through multiple test runs with Android and iPhones.... I have a 'temporary' LG V10 right now..... I'm sure it's going back tomorrow lol.
    11-01-2015 07:42 PM
  22. tuxedo323's Avatar
    Completely agree. Only reason we don't see these devices being sent to reviewers is Windows 10. The OS is the hold up.
    I know Panos considers these devices as 'adopted' children, but he needs to get these devs on the ball.
    11-01-2015 07:43 PM
  23. HOTDAWG's Avatar
    Anyone up for backgammon while we wait? ;)
    I've got a 640 to hold me over. Can't complain much, but I hate waiting rooms.
    11-01-2015 08:08 PM
  24. John M Beauchemin's Avatar
    Second time I went into the store knowing all there is to know about this phone a terrible rep told me "it's gonna be a nice phone, really nice battery and fast because it has octaquad" I almost threw up. How do they get hired ?
    Holy cow a 32 core processor?
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    11-01-2015 10:25 PM
  25. JdeFalconr's Avatar
    I feel bad saying this but in my opinion the dots have connected to indicate that Microsoft does not feel that the 950/XL are worthy of great importance. Consider:

    • Out of all the major product announcements on Oct 6 all of them had firm ship dates and very rapid preorders starting to capitalize on the hype from the conference...except for the phones.
    • Microsoft was able to actually move up the release date of Windows 10, a desktop OS. Meanwhile WP10 continues to languish in beta. Microsoft absolutely has the resources to get a major OS released quickly; they have chosen not to for their mobile OS.
    • Since Oct 6th Microsoft has been virtually silent on these phones; they have dropped off the world's radar, except for Europe where preorders are already happening, accessories are being thrown in with preorders, and Amazon France has already cut prices on the phone. Yet in the USA nothing except for inconsistent, abruptly terminated in-store-only preorders from the M$ official store, uninformed sales reps and the removal of demo units from stores.
    • Microsoft has shackled the 950/XL to a single carrier, AT&T. While mobile is supposedly a very important growth area for the company they instead choose to limit the exposure of their devices in the US market.


    None of this seems to fit with the narrative that the 950 series heralds the return of Microsoft to the mobile market that they supposedly care deeply about. I cannot fathom that a company with the immense resources of Microsoft would allow the above kind of things to happen unless it isn't important enough to them to correct the situation.

    Separately from the 950 series opinions my conjecture is that M$ is using the 950 series as their "test bed" for WP10 and they will double down on the rumored Surface phone. That also fits in with the rumors that the Surface phone is targeted towards Enterprise customers. Enterprise is the bread-and-butter of Microsoft and right now, arguably, the enterprise presence for phones in general is extremely weak. There absolutely is an opportunity for M$ to fill that void in a big way. Apple doesn't seem particularly concerned with truly making their phones enterprise-friendly while Android for Work is only available for a paltry handful of devices. Blackberry continues to wilt except for the entrenched few for whom a Blackberry is all they've ever known.
    Last edited by JdeFalconr; 11-02-2015 at 01:48 AM.
    11-02-2015 01:12 AM
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