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  1. Zendroid1's Avatar
    There are some interesting comparisons of the 808 vs 810. Some even say the 808 is theoretically better because the 810 gets too hot and throttles more often. And then there is the 810 v2 or v2.1?
    I'm not sure which 810 is in the 950XL.
    I'd hope they would use the latest one but you never know. Do the manufacturers even sell the old version once a new version is released?
    11-09-2015 04:19 PM
  2. Zachary Boddy's Avatar
    There are some interesting comparisons of the 808 vs 810. Some even say the 808 is theoretically better because the 810 gets too hot and throttles more often. And then there is the 810 v2 or v2.1?

    Qualcomm's Snapdragon 808/810: 20nm High-End 64-bit SoCs with LTE Category 6/7 Support in 2015

    Comparing Snapdragon 810 v2 and v2.1: More Memory Bandwidth, Higher Clocks

    Qualcomm says don't fear the Snapdragon 808 - CNET

    I'm not sure which 810 is in the 950XL.
    The latest version is.
    11-09-2015 04:28 PM
  3. Lumious's Avatar
    There's only a few differences between them.
    The Lumia 950 is slightly less powerful with the Snapdragon 808 hexa-core while the Lumia 950 XL has the Snapdragon 810 octa-core.
    The Lumia 950 does not have liquid cooling, while the Lumia 950 XL does.
    The Lumia 950 has a smaller 5.2 inch screen, while the Lumia 950 XL has a larger 5.7 inch screen.
    The Lumia 950 has Gorilla Glass 3, while the Lumia 950 XL has Gorilla Glass 4.
    The Lumia 950 has a differenct camera housing than the Lumia 950 XL.

    There you have it. The Lumia 950 XL is about $100 better (and $100 more expensive). Really the only thing that should decide you is how big you like your phone. If you want a larger screen than the Lumia 950 XL is really your only choice. If you like smaller phones, then the Lumia 950 is the better choice.

    you forgot the battery.
    11-09-2015 04:56 PM
  4. ajj3085's Avatar
    Well let's break it down here. At AT&T if you buy an unlocked device and then use it on your plan, they charge you $40 per line (on top of your data plan). If you buy a phone through AT&T Next, they only charge you $15 per line and then you have your phone payment (most flagships are around $25/month) which equals to about the same as bringing your own device.

    So let's say you get a 950XL:

    $650 + $40/month per line + your data plan (mine is $100 for 10gb)

    Now let's say you get a 950 through AT&T Next:

    $0 upfront (exluding taxes) + $15/month per line + $25/month phone payment + your data plan ($100)

    Even if you use a credit card, you still have to pay more per line with an unlocked device (and then you still have your credit card payment). Either way Next is the cheaper option upfront, even though it probably costs more in the long run.
    Why are you assuming $40 per line? off contract phones get that reduced. Because I have the 2gb plan its $25 per line. My total bill is 85, 30 for the plan and 50 for two lines, plus taxes.
    11-09-2015 07:43 PM
  5. John M Beauchemin's Avatar
    you forgot the battery.
    Both phones have the same estimated battery life, likely because the 810 sucks down more juice.
    11-09-2015 08:24 PM
  6. Jack Neill's Avatar
    I think the 950 XL looks nicer than the 950. That silver ring looks strange to me, I'd pick a 950 though, the XL is too big for me.
    11-09-2015 08:39 PM
  7. John M Beauchemin's Avatar
    Yeah I like the camera bezel better on the XL, but I didn't like how big it was when I tried it out. I'm comforted a bit by the fact that the 810 seems a bit too hot for the platform. That and the 950 will fit in my shirt pocket :P I couldn't button the pocket when I put the XL in it. I usually put my phone in my shirt or jacket breast pocket when I go out on my motorcycle, so that's pretty important to me.
    11-09-2015 08:57 PM
  8. Skyway's Avatar
    Why are you assuming $40 per line? off contract phones get that reduced. Because I have the 2gb plan its $25 per line. My total bill is 85, 30 for the plan and 50 for two lines, plus taxes.
    Because when I got my first phone through Next (the M8 on launch/announcement day), that's how they broke down the pricing. It was $40 per line with a $25 discount for using Next, bringing the total down to $15. That's the way they described it to me so that's what I assumed was going on. Either they changed it or I was wrong in assuming that's how it was.
    11-09-2015 10:04 PM
  9. Skyway's Avatar
    Yeah I like the camera bezel better on the XL, but I didn't like how big it was when I tried it out. I'm comforted a bit by the fact that the 810 seems a bit too hot for the platform. That and the 950 will fit in my shirt pocket :P I couldn't button the pocket when I put the XL in it. I usually put my phone in my shirt or jacket breast pocket when I go out on my motorcycle, so that's pretty important to me.
    I'm hoping some third party companies will come out with some vinyl wraps that include a ring around the camera. If no one does, I've thought about buying some vinyl and making my own. If done right, I think it could look better than the shiny metal ring (and it gives you a bit of customization on color and material style)
    11-09-2015 10:09 PM
  10. Visa Declined's Avatar
    The latest version is.
    You don't actually know that.
    11-10-2015 04:39 AM
  11. Captpt's Avatar
    You don't actually know that.
    I am surprised with all who handled the demos when they were in the MS Stores no one checked out which processor was in it??
    11-10-2015 06:15 AM
  12. Zachary Boddy's Avatar
    you forgot the battery.
    3,000 mAh for the Lumia 950
    3,340 mAh for the Lumia 950 XL
    11-10-2015 06:44 AM
  13. Zachary Boddy's Avatar
    You don't actually know that.
    I'm certain of it. Of course, I could be wrong, but I've yet to be shown any evidence to the contrary, so I suppose I'll keep on being certain, haha.
    11-10-2015 06:46 AM
  14. Captpt's Avatar
    Steve Litchfield over at All About Windows Phone(AAWP) listed in his specs on the 950XL it has the "Snapdragon 810 v2.1 64-bit octacore Adreno 43.. I would think/hope Steve has his facts straight for his forte is Smartphones writing for AAWP and writing, producing, directing and broadcasting The Phone Show..

    Exploring the Lumia 950 and 950 XL, the impending flagships
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    11-10-2015 08:47 AM
  15. phelme's Avatar
    I am surprised with all who handled the demos when they were in the MS Stores no one checked out which processor was in it??
    I never saw a 950 in stores here in Silicon Valley.

    i kinda wish they had given the 950 a 1080p screen for better battery life (and lower cost).
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    11-10-2015 03:45 PM
  16. Captpt's Avatar
    I never saw a 950 in stores here in Silicon Valley.

    i kinda wish they had given the 950 a 1080p screen for better battery life (and lower cost).
    I agree, battery life takes a hit for something we really won't notice after a day of use, I went from a Note 4 to a 640XL and after a day the display looks just fine to me but the battery life 4 weeks later still looks incredible lol..
    11-10-2015 04:01 PM
  17. John M Beauchemin's Avatar
    i kinda wish they had given the 950 a 1080p screen for better battery life (and lower cost).
    I'm glad they didn't! I would have had to get an XL. Aren't there other Lumia's with lower rez screens and cheaper prices available?
    11-10-2015 04:33 PM
  18. phelme's Avatar
    I'm glad they didn't! I would have had to get an XL. Aren't there other Lumia's with lower rez screens and cheaper prices available?
    actually, there aren't many (just the M8??) with 1080p still on the market anymore.

    (and on what planet is 1080p low-rez??? :| )
    11-10-2015 04:57 PM
  19. Squachy's Avatar
    I'm certain of it. Of course, I could be wrong, but I've yet to be shown any evidence to the contrary, so I suppose I'll keep on being certain, haha.
    No way of telling without seeing the chip itself. The about page only tells you the chip model but not revision number. Lumia 930 used the first version of snapdragon 800 even though theres been like 4 revisions of it since that chips release.
    11-10-2015 05:40 PM
  20. John M Beauchemin's Avatar
    actually, there aren't many (just the M8??) with 1080p still on the market anymore.

    (and on what planet is 1080p low-rez??? :| )
    I said "lower-rez" not low-rez.

    ...and I'm seeing a Lumia640XL on AT&T's site for short money.

    You and oldpueblo don't seem to be able to tell the difference between a high pixel density screen and low, but I sure as heck can. 300ppi is the standard for print. Any screen with a sub-300ppi is in my opinion not quite 'there' yet. Currently, the Samsung Galaxy s6 Edge has the best looking screen I've ever seen, it blew my mind when I first saw it it looks so dang good. It looks like you're looking at a magazine behind a piece of glass, not a digital display. I came within a hairs breadth of buying that phone just for that screen. Why does it look so good? 577ppi.
    11-11-2015 02:27 AM
  21. Andraz Podjaversek's Avatar
    At presentation of 950 series, Lumia 950 was the one on the screen with liquid cooling, so from where are you guys getting the info that only 950xl has this feature ?
    11-11-2015 04:34 AM
  22. Captpt's Avatar
    At presentation of 950 series, Lumia 950 was the one on the screen with liquid cooling, so from where are you guys getting the info that only 950xl has this feature ?
    The liquid cooling is due to the Snapdragon 810 processor and its heating issues, the 950 has the SnapDragon 808 which does not have the heat issue.. Not a bad thing that the 950 doesn't need liquid cooling for sure..
    11-11-2015 07:04 AM
  23. oldpueblo's Avatar
    I said "lower-rez" not low-rez.

    ...and I'm seeing a Lumia640XL on AT&T's site for short money.

    You and oldpueblo don't seem to be able to tell the difference between a high pixel density screen and low, but I sure as heck can. 300ppi is the standard for print. Any screen with a sub-300ppi is in my opinion not quite 'there' yet. Currently, the Samsung Galaxy s6 Edge has the best looking screen I've ever seen, it blew my mind when I first saw it it looks so dang good. It looks like you're looking at a magazine behind a piece of glass, not a digital display. I came within a hairs breadth of buying that phone just for that screen. Why does it look so good? 577ppi.
    At no point did anyone say anything about not being able to tell the difference. The point is whether or not the difference matters in any real meaningful way. Is a 1080P screen at 5" not great looking? It is. Is it worth the loss of battery life and performance? At what point do people want to make a reasonable trade-off? If you made people choose between longer battery life/better performance with a great screen, and less of the former but with a marginally better screen, which do you think people would choose? Those resolutions on a small phone screen (in relation to desktops) is excessive and doesn't really add extra value, while taking valuable resources. Is it nice? Absolutely. But I and most others would prefer more battery life/performance. Any idea what your PPI is on your desktop screen right now? I'm guessing you probably don't, and don't care. Most would fall into that category. So why would it matter on your relatively small phone screen, unless of course Apple made a big deal about it and so now everybody has to.
    11-11-2015 09:05 AM
  24. Musicman247's Avatar
    And if MS had given the 950 a 1080p screen there would be even more people here complaining how MS didn't give them a "true flagship". Darned if they do, darned if they don't, eh?
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    11-11-2015 09:09 AM
  25. RumoredNow's Avatar
    300ppi is the sweet spot and much above is a waste. OLED is too garish.

    It's trendy like a mochacapalattechino though so everyone goes to it from display OEMs to phone manufacturers to reviewers to consumers.

    It's like the 4k vid my 1520 will capture. I don't need it for goofing around and I don't have a 4k screen to play it on.

    That's where the convergence is. Make the phone display 4k because that is probably the only 4k screen most users will have on which to play their 4k video of baby Sally's first spit-up.
    Ed Boland likes this.
    11-11-2015 09:42 AM
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