12-15-2015 04:53 PM
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  1. zimilaci's Avatar
    I don't get you guys....

    - I used Android.... without rooting and ad blocking, its useless and your device will be flooded with ads during a normal browsing session....not even talking about the games (freeware)
    - Battery is terrible most of the times....
    - Too many viruses and not covered flaws.
    - Gets slow after a while (except htc one m7-m8 they are still good with the htc optimization

    IOS :

    - Come ooooon MONO Recording during the videos???? REALLY?
    - ITUNES dependency... REALLY?
    - Converting everything before copying ? REALLY?
    ..usw..

    For me both got boring... and trust me I own Android device and an Apple device as well...

    I wanted something new.... 950XL with Win 10 was my choice ... I never used windows mobile and never wanted to ...until win 10.... the older releases are soooo awful, but this one surprises me daily with some new things I did not notice...

    So I am not sure Win 10 is dead, now with the universal app it isnt... and hopefully android and ios apps will be ported and/or usable ....

    To be hones... I don't miss any apps...

    - I can listen to music (mp3, spotify)
    - I can bluetooth/NFC (haha Iphone)
    - I can use the social apps like whatsapp, skype, viber, facebook
    - Camera is wow ..... except the final touches :D
    -- etc...

    I love this phone, and the win 10 as well... Continuum is fun, although I am not sure I will use it that often :D
    12-07-2015 12:27 PM
  2. Brandon Keenan's Avatar
    To me it seems like he was looking for support to help him leave WM10, rather than being able to make the decision for himself
    Not really. I have been with windows mobile since my moto q9h running windows mobile 6.5... Then moved to htc surround, then nokia 900, then nokia 920, then picked up this 1520 and then got a 635 because it was on sale. I have used windows phone so long because it just worked and I didnt have the other hassles when using the android or iphones during that same time period. I don't need convincing to use a phone that does not work. It does that on its own. This thread was more to gauge whether it was a fluke in their production in my phone that gave me such a poor experience or if it was more widespread.
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    12-07-2015 01:13 PM
  3. hingethunder's Avatar
    I have no issue with the OS (other than its willingness to give up on downloading apps and tracks) but as I said on another thread - am disappointed with the actual device. Having to take off the back and remove the battery to install the SIM card is very retro or cheap. The case also squeaks when given a gentle squeeze in either bottom corner - I googled this and found I wasn't alone. This just should not be an issue, it's almost like MS wants this to fail so that once the Surface phone appears it will be the only model of device they will offer and there'll only be one or two SKUs per year following Apples business model.
    12-07-2015 01:49 PM
  4. mcmc08's Avatar
    hinge, there's a fix for the squeaking issue. Just don't squeeze the bottom corners.
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    12-07-2015 02:20 PM
  5. nokia4life's Avatar
    my experience was very different, sadly I would say no mobile OS is in a great state but I'm surprised people are so quick to drop the new Lumia's without seeing what the next update or two do. Windows 10 Mobile was launched with the new phones before it is ready that is true, but I haven't had that many crashes or bugs, it is more battery hungry then it should be for sure however the last couple of insider builds are much much better on other phones then previous builds battery wise and stability wise so I'm hopeful that should be fixed soon, personally I think it has huge potential.

    I would say that the original launch of iOS7 was okay, however iOS 8 and 9 were terrible, at launch both had battery issues, crashing issues, I experienced reboots, on my 6s Plus my home button would randomly become too hot to touch, it would reboot every other time I opened the camera, iCloud was broken. the phone was always warm and battery life sucked even after a hard reset with a fresh set up, the home button was fixed in the first update but battery life is still problematic now and even now after a few updates I wouldn't call it stable, in my experience iOS 8 was just as bad as Windows 10 Mobile is now when it launched. I consider iOS9 a stability update thankfully where they fixed a lot of it, still has a way to go though

    same with Android, KitKat was a bit of a mess but it was a huge overhaul, battery was much worse then previous version along with stability and only with Marshmallow have they fixed this for the most part, it's a huge improvement in most areas., I just hope they don't go backwards in the next version

    in my opinion this constant reinventing and heaps of new features being chucked in has resulted in all platforms being unstable, Windows Phone isn't the only one, both Android and iOS are going through the same thing, my hope is that Apple, Google and Microsoft start to focus on stability now they have brought about these huge overhauls to their respective platforms which it seems like they might be.

    oh and personally for me yes iOS had more apps yet I couldn't find a Reddit client anywhere as good as Readit and the official YouTube app was awful compared to Metrotube and Mytube, seriously the official YouTube app is terrible, really really bad!, I'm now hoping Google don't make one for Windows Phone it was that bad, lately they updated it and it's even worse!, I would say I'm actually happier in regards to apps on Windows Phone overall, I don't play many games or use that many apps and yes I'm likely the only person in the world to say that I know. :P
    While what you say is true there are two things that both android and IOS have going for them that windows doesn't and thats an ecosystem with apps and third party accessories that do a lot more than what windows has. If windows had these you can believe people will be able to put up with bugs because they do on android and IOS but when you have a suck app experience and no real ecosystem outside of the promise that one day all apps will get along in the windows sandbox, that just won't keep people in they are not really vested outside of pc which you can have the same or better with both of the other platforms. I love windows just like you, I had the pocket PC, all of the HTC phones that were great with windows phone (diamond and sony xperia windows phone days) but then something happened windows 6 turned into windows 7,8, 8.1, 10 and one thing in common no app and ecosystem to where people say I am invested in this platform. And I do not count several windows phones and a pc or laptop I mean apps functional ones and other devices in my home that work without me having to be a part time dev to understand how to jerryrig it to work with windows phone. IJS however I am keeping my 950XL just on the sidelines until some updates come out and some things change. The sim is back in the nexus 6p which to me is not better the 950xl by no means but it has a real ecosystem one that is supported regardless of software bugs they all have them.
    12-07-2015 03:37 PM
  6. vampyren's Avatar
    I have no issue with the OS (other than its willingness to give up on downloading apps and tracks) but as I said on another thread - am disappointed with the actual device. Having to take off the back and remove the battery to install the SIM card is very retro or cheap. The case also squeaks when given a gentle squeeze in either bottom corner - I googled this and found I wasn't alone. This just should not be an issue, it's almost like MS wants this to fail so that once the Surface phone appears it will be the only model of device they will offer and there'll only be one or two SKUs per year following Apples business model.
    Your joking i hope! Having access to battery and being able to change the back cover is awesome i think. All the aluminum fetish everyone are having is beyond me. I do have both iphone 6 and LG G4 and just ordered the 950. One reason i like this phone is due to the fact it has the plastic cover offering removable battery and SD. I do hate the iPhone aluminum, i always have a case on i because it scratches sooooo easily and looks awe full.
    12-07-2015 04:14 PM
  7. apple_iJUNK's Avatar
    Also, don't for get 950/950XL has wireless charging and it works GREAT too. I honestly have no clue why so many BoooHoooing going on. my wife and i LOVE out 950 and 950XL. what these phns offers, you can't get on any other phns. One thing ppl don't seem to understand, Win10 on these phns are not 100% and still will get more updates in upcoming weeks. some people have no patients whatsoever. My phn frozen 2 times so far. who cares. I took the battery out and reset the phn. WOW that was so hard. other than that its been working great. there are so many cool features on these phns that i LOVE, and my 1520 did not have.
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    12-07-2015 05:48 PM
  8. hingethunder's Avatar
    Your joking i hope! Having access to battery and being able to change the back cover is awesome i think. All the aluminum fetish everyone are having is beyond me. I do have both iphone 6 and LG G4 and just ordered the 950. One reason i like this phone is due to the fact it has the plastic cover offering removable battery and SD. I do hate the iPhone aluminum, i always have a case on i because it scratches sooooo easily and looks awe full.
    Did I say anything about the ability to remove the battery being a negative? No. What I said was having to remove the battery to install the SIM was very retro. Also, I don't know what you've been doing to scratch your previous phones 'soooo easily' but I have had both my 920 and 930 since their launch and they both still look great, neither of which have protective cases - both have had their fair share of bumps and drops.
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    12-07-2015 11:14 PM
  9. Mehul Teraiya's Avatar
    iPhone Is "Lord Voldemort" People Stay With iPhone Because Of "Ego" And Windows Mobile is "Harry Potter" People Stay With Windows Mobile Because Of "LOVE" And Android Mobile Is "Ron Weasley" Because >>>Find Out Yourself? Comment Back If You Agree Or Disagree.
    12-08-2015 01:56 AM
  10. Pete's Avatar
    I agree that the case back isn't wonderful. It did feel decidedly flimsy and fragile when I was taking the back off to insert the SIM and DC card. Considering that this action is the first thing that many people will do with the phone, it's not really a superb introduction.

    Having said that, this is my only gripe with an otherwise superb device. In looking through this thread yesterday, I didn't see a huge amount of actual problems with this phone, it's more of a chat area for people complaining.

    hopefully new people looking at this thread won't assume that the volume of posts here means there's huge problems with this device.
    12-08-2015 02:04 AM
  11. kjmcintosh's Avatar
    I just got my 950 XL and I am loving it, being running WM 10 on my 930 but it is so much smoother on the 950 xl.
    The duel sim and continuum sold it from me. I would like MS to get payments sorted but for now I can put my contactless card into the Mozo case and just pretend it is part of the phone. (it on order) I think there is no perfect phone yet. But I do think the first one to reach perfection will be WP10.
    Apple will never reach perfection and even if they did they would still be too expensive. That is one thing apple will never do.
    MS just need to close the App gap which I think the will do with universal apps and add payments then job is done.
    12-08-2015 04:53 AM
  12. Pete's Avatar
    Pretty much most of this thread is complaining about Windows 10. Something that just about everyone is forgetting is that Windows 10 Mobile has moved to a model of constant updates and improvements and that it has to start somewhere.

    Everyone is forgetting that things get fixed as a direct result of Windows Feedback items
    Everyone is forgetting that cool things are added as a direct result of the Windows Feedback items
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    12-08-2015 09:12 AM
  13. nokia4life's Avatar
    Pretty much most of this thread is complaining about Windows 10. Something that just about everyone is forgetting is that Windows 10 Mobile has moved to a model of constant updates and improvements and that it has to start somewhere.

    Everyone is forgetting that things get fixed as a direct result of Windows Feedback items
    Everyone is forgetting that cool things are added as a direct result of the Windows Feedback items
    Everyone is forgetting that Devs will not support this platform and that microsoft has done everything they can to get these guys on board which if Devs supported this platform would get folks vested more into the ecosystem which will cause growth and even better software, app, and hardware experience everyone is forgetting this.
    12-08-2015 09:17 AM
  14. Pete's Avatar
    And everyone is forgetting that this thread is about the 950XL and simply dumping their negativity on this thread along with all the rest of the negative threads.

    The options are simple. If you no longer like Windows Phone, move to another platform.
    If you like Windows Phone, stick with it and move forwards
    12-08-2015 09:25 AM
  15. cracgor's Avatar
    Everyone is forgetting! Windows Phone...I know right!
    12-08-2015 10:27 AM
  16. Gunbust3r's Avatar
    The options are simple. If you no longer like Windows Phone, move to another platform.
    If you like Windows Phone, stick with it and move forwards
    We can still like the platform but point out the flaws. Heck we don't even know if Microsoft is aware of missing VVM on the dual sim 950XL since they have no official statement regarding it. I mean it's their flagship phone and they cant even tell us the technical reason for a basic feature being missing and whether it will ever be corrected. Sticking with it doesn't mean bending over and taking what MS sees fit to give you, especially on a $600+ device.
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    12-08-2015 11:20 AM
  17. nokia4life's Avatar
    We can still like the platform but point out the flaws. Heck we don't even know if Microsoft is aware of missing VVM on the dual sim 950XL since they have no official statement regarding it. I mean it's their flagship phone and they cant even tell us the technical reason for a basic feature being missing and whether it will ever be corrected. Sticking with it doesn't mean bending over and taking what MS sees fit to give you, especially on a $600+ device.

    I don't get why people think that you do not have a right to complain about poor services from companies last I checked if you spent money for something you have the right to point out the bad we are not here to talk about how daum happy everything is lets get real where this guy has a point stop vilifying people because they point out flaws.

    The same people on here asking folks to not say bad things or be quick to point out a flaw would be the same person in line at the store going off if they bought a TV got it home and it didn't do what it advertised , how about I am the guy at that works are the store and tell you to turn around and go home and give the TV some time to work it self out since they are smart TV's now you wouldn't go for it. So lets not try to hush folks or vilify someone because they have issues or point out something crappy.

    GUNBUST3R keep posting bro and point out the crap thats what being real is and its the only way companies know what is going wrong.
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    12-08-2015 01:56 PM
  18. Uncled1023's Avatar
    I don't get why people think that you do not have a right to complain about poor services from companies last I checked if you spent money for something you have the right to point out the bad we are not here to talk about how daum happy everything is lets get real where this guy has a point stop vilifying people because they point out flaws.

    The same people on here asking folks to not say bad things or be quick to point out a flaw would be the same person in line at the store going off if they bought a TV got it home and it didn't do what it advertised , how about I am the guy at that works are the store and tell you to turn around and go home and give the TV some time to work it self out since they are smart TV's now you wouldn't go for it. So lets not try to hush folks or vilify someone because they have issues or point out something crappy.

    GUNBUST3R keep posting bro and point out the crap thats what being real is and its the only way companies know what is going wrong.
    It's because the people posting all the bad things are saying it like everyone is also seeing those issues, which is not true, and this could scare away users. Yes, they should be informed there are issues, but to keep pounding it in their faces just scares them away. And the platform DESPARATELY needs users, so why people trying to drive them away?

    I keep seeing the same thread over and over about the same issues. File feedback, but stop duplicating the threads and comments, it gets no where, and is just hurting the platform.
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    12-08-2015 02:49 PM
  19. nokia4life's Avatar
    It's because the people posting all the bad things are saying it like everyone is also seeing those issues, which is not true, and this could scare away users. Yes, they should be informed there are issues, but to keep pounding it in their faces just scares them away. And the platform DESPARATELY needs users, so why people trying to drive them away?

    I keep seeing the same thread over and over about the same issues. File feedback, but stop duplicating the threads and comments, it gets no where, and is just hurting the platform.
    I hear you but do you honestly think that a comment on a forum can hurt the platform? I don't think so you know why because anyone who comes to this forum and reads that there are issues whether it be App support, Hardware, or just Microsoft being MSFT If anything they know this coming in all you need is a computer type in WM and look at marketshare it would be way over 1% if this was a good or great platform (great doesn't exist they all have issues) that blaring number (marketshare) would tell me turn away turn away now faster than reading any comment.

    The last thing I would be worried about after spending my money is me possibly turning someone off to a platform because I have issues. Said person can read clearly and see that some are having no issues and some are hell check the headlines on WC website if Daniel did not type it most likely hasn't gone full nuclear being a big issue but rather sporadic.

    Again we should't try to sensor and vilify people because they have issues with something they bought. If Bill Gates can take bad about something windows is doing I am sure we can. IJS to each his or her own but everyone has the right to complain about a product you do it and so do I and if you had issues you would be doing the same.
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    12-08-2015 03:04 PM
  20. maevinj's Avatar
    The big problem here is people are griping about the OS in a sub-forum for the phone. They need to head over to the WM10 section.
    12-08-2015 03:32 PM
  21. cracgor's Avatar
    The big problem here is people are griping about the OS in a sub-forum for the phone. They need to head over to the WM10 section.
    I do not think the phone and OS can be separated entirely. I do not think you need censorship to avoid loss either.
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    12-08-2015 03:45 PM
  22. cjsteyer's Avatar
    I am with you cracgor. I returned my 950XL after 2 days because I found out it doesn't support visual voicemail and couldn't get an answer from AT&T or Microsoft if it ever would. That is an important feature for business travelers. I hate to admit it because I have been a WP evangelist since WP7, but I replaced my 950XL with a $399 Moto X Pure Edition and it was a better phone experience out of the box. I am going to wait for the Surface Phone to be released and then go back to WP10.
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    12-08-2015 03:49 PM
  23. Chad Welsh's Avatar
    @ KEENAN You are just complaining i have had nothing wrong with both of my 950xl's or my 640 lte on windows 10m
    12-08-2015 04:18 PM
  24. hingethunder's Avatar
    hinge, there's a fix for the squeaking issue. Just don't squeeze the bottom corners.
    Once you find the squeak, you can't stop making it happen! I found one solution, plug in the USB cable. Found another solution on reddit although I wouldn't dare use it for fear the warranty would be invalid should it catch fire!
    12-08-2015 04:55 PM
  25. Uncled1023's Avatar
    I hear you but do you honestly think that a comment on a forum can hurt the platform? I don't think so you know why because anyone who comes to this forum and reads that there are issues whether it be App support, Hardware, or just Microsoft being MSFT If anything they know this coming in all you need is a computer type in WM and look at marketshare it would be way over 1% if this was a good or great platform (great doesn't exist they all have issues) that blaring number (marketshare) would tell me turn away turn away now faster than reading any comment.

    The last thing I would be worried about after spending my money is me possibly turning someone off to a platform because I have issues. Said person can read clearly and see that some are having no issues and some are hell check the headlines on WC website if Daniel did not type it most likely hasn't gone full nuclear being a big issue but rather sporadic.

    Again we should't try to sensor and vilify people because they have issues with something they bought. If Bill Gates can take bad about something windows is doing I am sure we can. IJS to each his or her own but everyone has the right to complain about a product you do it and so do I and if you had issues you would be doing the same.
    I have seen posters here who aren't the most tech literate, and the site is more popular than you seem to realize.

    If you really cared about the platform and wanted it to succeed, you would care about turning people off of the platform.

    My main issue is all these posts with complaints that have already been voiced (not in a method of like someone asking to confirm their issue), without providing a solution, making it seem they are complaining for complaining sake. Sure it helps them vent, but it isn't productive.
    12-08-2015 04:59 PM
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