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  1. anon(9709784)'s Avatar
    Funny I read through every one of your posts and you did not specifically mention a single problem just vague complaining about Edge.
    I've already shared the nuts and bolts as well as the superficial issues I find in Microsoft Edge and the rest of the OS via the Windows Feedback app for Microsoft to address.

    What is specifically so wrong with Windows Phone/Edge that make iOS and Android more usable even without apps?
    Just as a sample, when viewing most of the sites I use (and develop) in absence of a native or web application, Edge is very jumpy, slow to respond, or inoperable in scrolling, selecting text to copy/paste text in fields in the browser view is terrible, certain sites freeze the entire device if certain HTML5/CSS/JavaScript functions exceed Edge's capabilities I encounter in comparison to being able to development for webkit, gecko, etc., vs IE and separately Edge (for which there is a weird collection of incapabilities for any browser in 2015). That isn't the totality of my "vague complaining" of Edge alone, but that's partly the issue of Edge and the OS as a whole.

    While I will still have the 640 to test the ongoing development, I will be retrieving the $650+protection plan costs spent on the 950XL, as great as it is to have a "new" device for Windows Phone, Microsoft should have offered a downgrade option to 8.1 like they did for people who bought Windows 8 laptops to be able to downgrade to Windows 7. As for the OS, as disappointing as it is right now, it's not "goodbye Windows Mobile forever". It's "I'll see you occasionally when you've gotten better at landscaping."
    Last edited by RumoredNow; 12-10-2015 at 04:42 PM. Reason: cleanup on aisle 5
    12-10-2015 04:31 PM
  2. mariusmuntean's Avatar
    Has anyone tried to charge the phone with a non fast charging adapter? if you still complain that the phones gets hot when charging..I'm sure you can use a normal Nokia adapter withthe provided usb type a-type c cable
    12-10-2015 04:47 PM
  3. vlknff's Avatar
    It makes me laugh when people are angry that they get a glitchy phone after spending soooo much money. Fact is the OS you are getting on your 500$ 950XL phone is no different than the OS I am getting for my 20$ lumia 640. And in fact my 640 hasn't glitched at all. And come on people look at iPhone(moderate amount) or even worse android- its a minefield of glitches, random battery drainage and what not.

    The concept that the more you pay the less bugs you should expect is invalid. Any device you buy ESPECIALLY newly released hardware cramped phone like the 950XL - you should expect the unexpected.

    bottomline, all software has its fits. And all we can do is report the problem and wait for a fix. Its what technology consumers have been doing for last 20 years.

    PS. I connected my Bluetooth mouse to my 640 and had a cursor, its hilariouus !!!

    PS PS admin - all good with this post?
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    12-10-2015 04:59 PM
  4. cesar ruiz1's Avatar
    True all phones have bugs when released but the 950/XL phones are just bad, Android lollipop was bad when it came out but still usable and Google fixed it a couple of months later it was still bad but usable. The Lumia 1520 got partially fixed almost 8 months later and still 2 years later if you're running Windows phone 8.1 it still has a couple of bugs. I got the At&t 950 and I was gonna give it to my mom but I gave it a test drive, battery life is awful, reboots 5 times a day, too many apps hang or just force close, camera is not so great I returned it 9 later. Point is Microsoft is very bad handling their mobile software.

    Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
    12-10-2015 09:06 PM
  5. cracgor's Avatar
    I am sorry but the 950xl is the best handset on the market and microsoft are the ultimate software geniuses, they have literally some of the smartest people on the planet working for them and you can be sure any teething problems will be ironed out quick sharp. I just witnessed this with the new windows 10 update for xbox one from buggy preview to butter smooth in a week.

    leaving now is a major mistake ios is overpriced sheep bait and android is just a mess, mass market mess for sure but still a mess.
    How is it a mess? I am serious.

    Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
    12-10-2015 09:09 PM
  6. cracgor's Avatar
    I tried continuum briefly to via wireless to my tv last night. (Dock is on back order). I was pleasantly surprised. Was it snappy, no, was it usable yes, I opened a word document, moved around it with the phone, paired a mouse and used that to navigate fine, there was lag on the mouse but not extreme and you could certainly use it. I haven't paired a keyboard yet, but will do soon just to see.
    The lag is from the wireless connection to the tv. Happens even with my surface pro. This will be more useful when wireless is faster. Until then continuum can't replace a laptop because you have to carry too much stuff around with you. But one day it will be awesome.

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    12-10-2015 09:16 PM
  7. Joe920's Avatar
    How is it a mess? I am serious.
    Um.. Request to stay on topic. Maybe not do the same old OS wars again?
    12-10-2015 09:16 PM
  8. cracgor's Avatar
    I really wanted to love the 950XL, wanted a refreshing change from iOS so preordered it. After two days of using it, I had to let it go. The whole experience is a beta experience, the apps feel like they are in beta, the windows phone OS feels like a beta version, hardware feels like the old Nexus 5 (except the camera which is simply the best out there), lack of quality apps (even the Microsoft apps feel like beta compared to their iOS and Andriod counterparts. Why pay $650 for a beta device. Some other day, we will talk
    After using an lgv10 for a day- windows phone 8.1 was beta, wm10 is alpha software.

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    12-10-2015 09:23 PM
  9. Uncled1023's Avatar
    I see a cursor on my 950 XL as well!
    12-10-2015 09:23 PM
  10. cracgor's Avatar
    Um.. Request to stay on topic. Maybe not do the same old OS wars again?
    Fine will move it to another thread

    Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
    Joe920 likes this.
    12-10-2015 09:27 PM
  11. Captpt's Avatar
    It makes me laugh when people are angry that they get a glitchy phone after spending soooo much money. Fact is the OS you are getting on your 500$ 950XL phone is no different than the OS I am getting for my 20$ lumia 640. And in fact my 640 hasn't glitched at all. And come on people look at iPhone(moderate amount) or even worse android- its a minefield of glitches, random battery drainage and what not.

    The concept that the more you pay the less bugs you should expect is invalid. Any device you buy ESPECIALLY newly released hardware cramped phone like the 950XL - you should expect the unexpected.

    bottomline, all software has its fits. And all we can do is report the problem and wait for a fix. Its what technology consumers have been doing for last 20 years.

    PS. I connected my Bluetooth mouse to my 640 and had a cursor, its hilariouus !!!

    PS PS admin - all good with this post?
    You must just be one incredibly lucky guy.. I've been running the last two insider versions and I've had quite a few glitches.. Still do and waiting for the next version hoping it will have more fixes.
    Actually your the first person I've seen here running Insiders WP10 who hasn't had ANY glitches,.. Amazing to say the least..
    nokia4life likes this.
    12-10-2015 09:57 PM
  12. Unauthorized's Avatar
    I am sorry but the 950xl is the best handset on the market and microsoft are the ultimate software geniuses, they have literally some of the smartest people on the planet working for them and you can be sure any teething problems will be ironed out quick sharp. I just witnessed this with the new windows 10 update for xbox one from buggy preview to butter smooth in a week.

    leaving now is a major mistake ios is overpriced sheep bait and android is just a mess, mass market mess for sure but still a mess.
    I didn't leave, but returned to my 1520, which is superior to the 950 XL atm when it comes to usability. So no, the 950 XL isn't the best handset right now with all the reboot and Wifi disconnect problems, missing double tap to wake and inability to use it with gloves, just to name some. It just felt like an expensive downgrade - may change over time, but the price too.
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    12-10-2015 10:36 PM
  13. TechAbstract's Avatar
    I didn't leave, but returned to my 1520, which is superior to the 950 XL atm when it comes to usability. So no, the 950 XL isn't the best handset right now with all the reboot and Wifi disconnect problems, missing double tap to wake and inability to use it with gloves, just to name some. It just felt like an expensive downgrade - may change over time, but the price too.
    Wow, is everyone having reboot issues on Lumia 950 and Lumia 950 XL?
    12-10-2015 10:48 PM
  14. Unauthorized's Avatar
    Unlikely everyone, but it can't be just one device, see the forums.
    12-11-2015 12:01 AM
  15. Cheeky_47's Avatar
    No problems here at all, no reboots, everything seems to work exactly as it should be, good battery life, getting a day easily.

    The problem is that it's the folks who have issues that are going to post and that makes it seem like the problems are far more widespread than they are. Those that are content tend to say nothing... They're busy enjoying their phones! :)
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    12-11-2015 01:12 AM
  16. mariusmuntean's Avatar
    This is the first time I am seeing older devices running the latest OS better than the latest released ones :)))
    12-11-2015 01:33 AM
  17. zimilaci's Avatar
    No problems here at all, no reboots, everything seems to work exactly as it should be, good battery life, getting a day easily.

    The problem is that it's the folks who have issues that are going to post and that makes it seem like the problems are far more widespread than they are. Those that are content tend to say nothing... They're busy enjoying their phones! :)
    I can confirm this... I have no such issues :) I am really happy
    12-11-2015 04:55 AM
  18. mariusmuntean's Avatar
    I can confirm this... I have no such issues :) I am really happy
    well, you must be one of the few lucky ones. Enjoy it :)
    12-11-2015 07:26 AM
  19. Joe920's Avatar
    Now that we're almost 500 posts deep into this thread I spent ten minutes looking at who actually seemed serious about returning theirs. Apart from myself, these are the people that said they'd return it:

    1. Brandon Keenan
    2. JRDEMASKUS
    3. cracgor
    4. Sunstorming
    5. donkiluminate
    6. abyssartsstudio
    7. coolbreeze78
    8. Leovince1500
    9. hzelaya
    10. Burger Nog
    11. HoosierDaddy
    12. Me Again1
    13. ALpHa.Q.RoUgH
    14. Nischi85
    15. jonstewart
    16. JK-SC
    17. Unauthorized
    18. Chaitanya Polumetla

    Five or six of these had fewer than three posts total, but they sounded serious. So about twenty guys/gals in this mammoth thread wanted to return theirs, and maybe ten did. Seems like the sky is not falling. :)
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    12-11-2015 07:31 AM
  20. Pete's Avatar
    And I wonder how many of those 20 or so will wait for the inevitable first bug fix update to roll out....
    12-11-2015 07:35 AM
  21. mariusmuntean's Avatar
    Now that we're almost 500 posts deep into this thread I spent ten minutes looking at who actually seemed serious about returning theirs. Apart from myself, these are the people that said they'd return it:

    1. Brandon Keenan
    2. JRDEMASKUS
    3. cracgor
    4. Sunstorming
    5. donkiluminate
    6. abyssartsstudio
    7. coolbreeze78
    8. Leovince1500
    9. hzelaya
    10. Burger Nog
    11. HoosierDaddy
    12. Me Again1
    13. ALpHa.Q.RoUgH
    14. Nischi85
    15. jonstewart
    16. JK-SC
    17. Unauthorized
    18. Chaitanya Polumetla

    Five or six of these had fewer than three posts total, but they sounded serious. So about twenty guys/gals in this mammoth thread wanted to return theirs, and maybe ten did. Seems like the sky is not falling. :)
    Well many have posted more than once. It would be also ok to see how many have issues with their phones, no matter if they said they will return the phones or not, in this way we can see how bad the situation is with these devices.
    12-11-2015 07:45 AM
  22. Pete's Avatar
    Well many have posted more than once. It would be also ok to see how many have issues with their phones, no matter if they said they will return the phones or not, in this way we can see how bad the situation is with these devices.
    So to recap your current position, you don't own, or even intend to own either a 950 or 950XL, but instead you're happy to trash both devices as often as possible without having any personal experience of either.
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    12-11-2015 07:54 AM
  23. mariusmuntean's Avatar
    So to recap your current position, you don't own, or even intend to own either a 950 or 950XL, but instead you're happy to trash both devices as often as possible without having any personal experience of either.
    I haven't said I do not want to buy one..but sorry mate, I cannot spend that amount of money just wishing that my device won't reboot on it's own. If you are willing to risk your cash fine by me, but don't expect anyone to do it just because it's Microsoft.
    I will buy either a 950 or a 950XL when the reboot issues are recognized by MS and fixed, if indeed it's a software/driver related problem.
    And yes, I am trashing these devices because of the lack of quality control MS has! not because of the phones themselves. The OS drags them down badly. You think it's nice to see the phones in the store and not being able to buy them because of these problems? or to actually get one and hope that you will be able to make a phone call without it going haywire and reboot?
    12-11-2015 08:07 AM
  24. Unauthorized's Avatar
    And I wonder how many of those 20 or so will wait for the inevitable first bug fix update to roll out....
    Actually I DID. But although the changelog was suggesting fixes for Bluetooth issues, build 10586.29 did not fix any of my problems. It is just too much money to deal with such things.
    12-11-2015 08:51 AM
  25. Pete's Avatar
    That wasn't a specific bug fix for the 950/950XL, it was simply bringing the OS to the same level as the other insiders and PC build.
    12-11-2015 08:53 AM
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