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  1. Josh Harman's Avatar
    And neither are you Josh... I don't believe BB is hurting this community, I believe he is giving insight to his experience. Which I feel that is what everyone is doing. He is having a great experience and it sounds like you're not. If you want MS to hear your insight on your experience, join the insider club, and if you are already signed up, explain your experience to them there.
    I think you're confused.

    I wasn't replying to "BB" and my experience with my 950 has been great, I'm not experiencing any of the issues that others are reporting. I'm also in the Insider program, a developer and I've been testing Windows 10 and the versions before it on multiple devices for some time.
    editguy likes this.
    12-28-2015 01:10 PM
  2. BBJonbo's Avatar
    I am definitely having a great experience but not perfect but wasn't expecting it as no smart phone is perfect and bug free. I don't find the phone inferior at all and am not accepting of junk. It is my personal opinion that the 950xl is an exceptional phone and understand that others may not feel the same which is their prerogative which I take no exception to.

    I love the light weight polycarbonate back and like others have found the creaks to stop over time. I truly love the speed of the camera and amazing photos and videos it takes. On boxing day I was with some techno friends one with an iPhone 6s the other with a Samsung S6 Edge and they were blown away by the photos and video I took. We then started a bit if a contest shooting in different lighting and conditions and they continued to be very impressed. In many cases we all thought that the 950xl was the best and all agreed overall it was. Definitely all 3 phones have solid cameras and sw and I would take any of the 3. I was just pleased my 950xl competed well and am totally satisfied with the phone camera. I would love to have panorama option but suspect that will come in a later sw update.

    As I have stated the phone is not perfect and it has even frozen a couple of times. I definitely am not lazy and wont accept garbage or poor quality. MS does still have a lot of work ahead to fix bugs and complete the os and I am not making excuses for them. I however am a believer they will do just that and am willing to give them time.

    That being said, I fully understand there has been a lot of turmoil and change for WP over the past many years and just have recently joined the fold. So I can fully appreciate that long term WP advocates may no longer be as tolerant due to what seems to have been a very tumultuous time getting to this point. Being new to WP I personally am willing to give MS some leeway to address the issue but also understand those that may feel enough is enough.

    The primary reason I finally bought a WP is that I am a big believer of the WaaS and UWP along with Continuum. I thought the 950xl would fit in perfectly with my 2 xbox 360s and 4 x Surface Pros and it has.

    I recently purchased the foldable keyboard and with Teamviewer I can now use continuum and leave my Surface Pro at home. For me personally I have found the 950xl to be more than enough to be my support device when I am on call and like the fact my phone can do everything I need without the need to have to carry a bulkier device.
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    12-28-2015 01:30 PM
  3. Witness's Avatar
    Thanks, that's what I need to read, I can't recommend the phone to my family or friends if the phone is garbage like some people are implying on recent posts.

    I would like to read to people that are happy with their phones and why are they happy.
    Please don't recommend the phone to anyone yet. Wait until some of the major bugs are fixed so that when you do recommend it, they will have a better experience. Everything about the phone is nice, except for those bugs that make usability terrible - constant reboots, battery drains and BT disconnects. I've been using Windows Mobile/Phone since 2000 or something, so I don't say take this lightly. Hopefully you'll have a better experience - do a clean setup, it might help. Good luck.
    12-28-2015 01:54 PM
  4. Paolo Cardelli's Avatar
    Please don't recommend the phone to anyone yet. Wait until some of the major bugs are fixed so that when you do recommend it, they will have a better experience. Everything about the phone is nice, except for those bugs that make usability terrible - constant reboots, battery drains and BT disconnects. I've been using Windows Mobile/Phone since 2000 or something, so I don't say take this lightly. Hopefully you'll have a better experience - do a clean setup, it might help. Good luck.
    I have none of those issues, build .29 with latest firmware update, no insider.
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    12-28-2015 02:53 PM
  5. nokia4life's Avatar
    Thanks, that's what I need to read, I can't recommend the phone to my family or friends if the phone is garbage like some people are implying on recent posts.

    I would like to read to people that are happy with their phones and why are they happy.

    @ronaldme what I would advise you to do is to leave this forum because just like folks are saying there are negative nannies everywhere there are fanboys willing to accept anything to keep hope alive. The best advice would be to go to all of the major tech blogs and read the reviews this will give you a fair view. When it comes to spending money on the 950XL its about getting your money's worth not waiting for something promised tomorrow. I feel like a lot of folks buy into this just buy and take it with all of it's issues. While forums are helpful they are not always the best place to get advice. Just me I read all of the major tech sites and some independent , along with consumer reports, and others like it. Also I watch of lot of after 15 or 30 days youtube videos. This helps me I hope it helps you too vs coming here because you will get a battle between folks that are saying no its not worth it and the folks that are saying they are happy with half baked software or beta tester.
    12-28-2015 03:02 PM
  6. Mark Baker3's Avatar
    Guy I work with spent years taking the **** over my windows phones. He bought a 950xl and is very happy with the exception of the google apps. After a week he was fine with the Ms equivalent. Simple enough.
    12-28-2015 03:11 PM
  7. cggab's Avatar
    I really need to know if people really like the phone.
    Love my white 950xl on telus, I have had non of the bugs others are complaining about.
    12-28-2015 03:14 PM
  8. desaideas1's Avatar
    After using Win10M on a Lumia 1020, having it bork my microUSB port, bricking it for a period when you had to downgrade to upgrade builds, the countless resuming/loading and crashed on functionality that worked flawlessly on Win8.1.....

    I really enjoy my 950XL. It's like going from a crazy girlfriend who repeatedly takes a hammer to your walls to one that playfully unscrews the cap on a salt shaker when you take her out to dinner at 3-month waiting list steakhouse...(have to laugh at myself for this one).
    Are there issues with odd crashing, ineffective experience with Cortana/groove, weird brightness settings...the list goes on...Yes.. However, generally the device is pretty resilient, a reboot gets you on your way. Battery life is fantastic in my experience and the quick charge w/ USB C is gurreat.

    Microsoft Dock is pretty much useless, but I do use a MS Miracast stick for any interaction with TV's and my Surface Pro 3/950XL.

    I did Hard reset my device, and I will suggest that after a few days of usage, it's best to go through that circus for increased stability with newer builds. All in all, it's a daily driver, and I no longer carry a backup phone, and 1200mah battery as a precaution.
    12-28-2015 03:35 PM
  9. Rupert Holmes's Avatar
    You will be back with your 1020 in a few days, if you are on AT&T. Sorry to be negative.
    12-28-2015 04:43 PM
  10. Babs75's Avatar
    My phone is working great. So much better than my last Android phone. This my first Windows phone so maybe I have nothing to compare to. Very happy with it.
    12-28-2015 04:50 PM
  11. BBJonbo's Avatar
    Please don't recommend the phone to anyone yet. Wait until some of the major bugs are fixed so that when you do recommend it, they will have a better experience. Everything about the phone is nice, except for those bugs that make usability terrible - constant reboots, battery drains and BT disconnects. I've been using Windows Mobile/Phone since 2000 or something, so I don't say take this lightly. Hopefully you'll have a better experience - do a clean setup, it might help. Good luck.
    None of these as well. Newer but not newest firmware 15454.29005 and os .29 so again not the newest. Definitely would seem reasonable that this could be either firmware and/or os related.

    My 85yr old father has the identical setup and also has none of these issues. He has been using Wp8.x for the past 3-4 years. His old phone is a 520 and he loves his 950xl I bought him for xmas. I have been using mine since Nov 26 and my dad just since Dec 25.

    I truly am glad he and I are ones not experiencing such issues but do feel for those that are. My father and I are very fortunate to have the setup we have that doesn't have these issues.
    12-28-2015 05:11 PM
  12. TennisGuy45's Avatar
    Love my Lumia 950xl, no regrets getting it.

    Only thing I want Microsoft to do is fix Cortana Bluetooth hands free interaction in my car on WM10. Its flaky and tends to get confused and stops responding......and it pisses me off. It is probably the most used feature on my phone.
    12-28-2015 05:15 PM
  13. BBJonbo's Avatar
    I've mentioned elsewhere that Cortana is not working for me in Canada. That I am frustrated about but know it is sw related and MS will fix this. And with WaaS they wont be hindered by carriers which is another upside for me switching to WP. I do want the use of Cortana and not too happy it doesn't work as it sounds like a very useful feature. This is the one major issue I am putting up with and wished it worked.
    12-28-2015 05:20 PM
  14. snakebitten's Avatar
    I've mentioned elsewhere that Cortana is not working for me in Canada. That I am frustrated about but know it is sw related and MS will fix this. And with WaaS they wont be hindered by carriers which is another upside for me switching to WP. I do want the use of Cortana and not too happy it doesn't work as it sounds like a very useful feature. This is the one major issue I am putting up with and wished it worked.
    I'm not in Canada, (although if I was in Calgary, I'd be cold, but comfortable :) )
    Anyways, I heard if you change your region settings to US, you get Cortana without causing problems. It's been posted by a few Canucks!
    12-28-2015 06:29 PM
  15. ordivergens's Avatar
    I have had my 950 XL for a little over a week. I have primarily used Android devices over the past few years, with the Note 5 being my current device. I tried a 635 a while back, got if for like $25 on Amazon, and totally loved it. In fact, I ended up using that as my primary phone over the Moto X Pure Edition I had at the time. Since then I have used a Lumia 640 XL, and that also fantastic. When the 950 XL came out, I was pretty sure I wanted it. The first one I got was horrible, with extremely loud creaking (as in just picking it up would give off a horribly loud creak), so I got that replaced, but I still had issues with a lot of bugs, and general instability, so I returned it.

    I decided to try again, so I bought a dual sim variant from B&H, and took the .29 update. The update has drastically improved the stability of the device. I am quite happy with it. There are still some issues, like the camera being unable to focus automatically under low light (works if I tap to focus). Sometimes my settings screen will freeze, etc. Windows hello sometimes doesn't work ( I have glasses though). Some annoying issues, but overall, not nearly as bad as the first one I had. I expect things will improve further with the new firmware update.

    When everything is working, things are about as fluid as my Note 5, which is good. It doesn't load apps quite as fast as the Note 5, but then again, the Note uses UFS, so that is to be expected.

    The camera on this thing is fantastic! Slower than my Note 5, but the resulting pictures usually have better detail. Quite happy with it! I would say it goes toe to toe with the Nexus 6P.

    However, I still love Android and will keep the Note 5 around, so that I can switch back and forth as I wish.

    Overall, the 950 XL is a pretty decent phone. It doesn't feel as good in the hand, or "premium" like my Note 5, or the 6P I used to have. I am a bit disappointed by that. I thought even though it was plastic, it would have a solid build with a soft touch feel like the Nexus 5X, but unfortunately it does not. The back still creaks in multiple places, and the phone is a bit lighter than I would like. It just doesn't feel like I am holding a solid phone in my hand, like the Nexus 6P or the Note 5. I suppose I could add some post it notes or something for the creaking, but for $650, I expected better. I have a Mozo cover on the way though, so hopefully that makes it a bit better and maybe even gives it a bit more heft.

    Again, with the new updates and the probably the new firmware coming out, I think this will be a very good phone. Hopefully the whole Universal Apps thing takes off well.

    Haven't tried continuum yet, don't see the point when I have my desktop I built last year :) It wouldn't support my Dell's resolution anyways.
    libra89 and mayconvert like this.
    12-28-2015 09:47 PM
  16. mayconvert's Avatar
    I will wait 6-8 months and get one on an amazon Fire Sale! for $200 instead of $700. And maybe, (maybe), the OS will be usable by then ;p
    Those are positives in my book lol.
    Until then, I will use my 640 on 8.1 and Wait for 10 to be fixed. They should change Windows Phone name to Wait for it wait for it
    lol. I kid, I kid...
    12-29-2015 01:07 AM
  17. pallentx's Avatar
    Is the XL that much worse than the 950? I got the ATT 950 on launch day. I've had maybe 3 random reboots and some Bluetooth issues, but overall I'm enjoying this phone.
    12-29-2015 09:24 AM
  18. jjMustang's Avatar
    I've had my 950XL for more than a month now. My short summary is this: if you're an avid Windows phone fan, you'll enjoy it. I would not recommend it to my wife or mother, though, until Windows 10 matures. It's good, but not quite 100% yet. If all you need is a good phone, the 640 will suffice. I was initially upset with the 950 XL because it didn't seem like it was worth the price compared to the 640, but there are lots of little things that make it enjoyable. The camera is fast and excellent quality. The USB-C is great because I can attach USB thumb drives and transfer files from PC to Phone. My biggest complaint is that games take a huge hit on battery life. I know that it will get better. I've been with Windows Phone since the beginning and I'm not giving up now.
    12-29-2015 09:33 AM
  19. sheldon cohn's Avatar
    I have the 950 XL with double SIM slots, it may be more expensive to have 2
    lines on one phone, but the advantage is a personal line and a business line on one phone. I just received
    the phone and have not had a chance to open it , since I have to get with some co-workers
    for an HDMI to VGA cable so I can connect it via the Hub to the computer monitor. Editing
    a file using the computer monitor, keyboard, and mouse for me is much easier then using the
    on board keyboard on the phone. I mentioned getting a cable from co-workers, I then can
    connect the phone to the computer using the Hub, and show several co-workers how
    the phone works connected to the computer.
    I used to work for classroom support at Rice University, with the teaching podium in the
    classrooms, the phone could be connected into the podium PC, then displayed via projector
    in front of the class.
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    12-29-2015 09:53 AM
  20. Ketan Panchal's Avatar
    I'm perfectly happy with my purchase. :) You can read my review at amazonDOTin web site by the name 'Ketan Panchal'. My only major gripe currently is lack of a good twitter app, otherwise it's a beautiful experience switching from Android. :)
    12-29-2015 10:51 AM
  21. Rupert Holmes's Avatar
    Trying not to be so negative. I think not having previous Windows phone experience is why many are happy with the 950s.

    I started with a 1020 running 8.0, it was bad. Then I received the 8.1 update, much better, except the phone started locking up. MS promised a fix and released it, Denim. I was on AT&T, they sat on it for months. When I received Denim, the 1020 became the phone it should have been from the start.

    Now, I have the 950Xl dual-sim, great hardware, fast camera, a little large, but missing the little things that made the 1020 special to me; double tap to wake, visual voicemail, the selection of individual text messages for deletion, it was a single step process, now it takes two steps, the moving glance screen.

    Those that have only had IOS or Android do not miss what they never had, I have had both. For me using the 950XL is like going from Windows 7 to Windows 8. Where did the start button go. Fortunately, someone wrote a little app to add the start button back and hide the Metro. I have commented before that the 950XL would perfect to me if it could run 8.1 Denim, but it cannot, so the 950XL stays at home and I carry the 1020. I keep hoping MS will fix something that I care about, but so far they have not.
    12-29-2015 11:36 AM
  22. ronaldme's Avatar
    Thanks guys, now I'm a happy user of a black Lumia 950 XL. Zero issues and the phone is awesome (I love Windows Hello).
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    12-29-2015 12:20 PM
  23. Hamper's Avatar
    Thanks for the advice, I've almost bought this phone several times now but I'm still on the fence while continuing to be happy with my Icon.
    12-29-2015 12:21 PM
  24. FredW's Avatar
    This is so my next phone, currently using the lumia 1020. Just checked out the specs of the XL and wow, just what I'm looking for
    You wont be sorry!
    12-29-2015 12:37 PM
  25. ronaldme's Avatar
    Thanks for the advice, I've almost bought this phone several times now but I'm still on the fence while continuing to be happy with my Icon.
    My las phone was a Lumia 1520 and I'm really happy, the phone is better in hand, the screen is amazing, and everything feel smoother than my 1520.

    What I did:

    - A hard reset with buttons
    - At the first time configuration, I didn't turned on wifi and didn't put my email.
    - Opened the store and turned off automatic updates
    - I leave my phone plugged to the charger for a while (20-30 minutes)
    - Now I turned on wifi and installed the update (.29)
    - After the installation, I added my email account, and update my apps

    That's all, my phone is really smooth and zero issues, after 4 hours of usage (installing apps, chatting, etc) I have 80% (Windows Hello on, Glance on, Cortana off), it is more than my Lumia 1520.
    12-29-2015 01:04 PM
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