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  1. david90531's Avatar
    After finally getting the newest win 10 preview mobile update, this time I'm not getting the firmware update for my Canadian 950 XL that supposedly was "released" since last week. Anybody else having the same issue?

    Not that I'm in huge need of this firmware update since my 950 XL is working quite well after the preview update (or even before that to be honest), but I'm just curious about why updates are pushing in a less-efficient fashion these days compared to when I was on the 920, everytime an update was announced I could get it pretty much instantly.
    12-29-2015 12:32 PM
  2. jlangner's Avatar
    After finally getting the newest win 10 preview mobile update, this time I'm not getting the firmware update for my Canadian 950 XL that supposedly was "released" since last week. Anybody else having the same issue?

    Not that I'm in huge need of this firmware update since my 950 XL is working quite well after the preview update (or even before that to be honest), but I'm just curious about why updates are pushing in a less-efficient fashion these days compared to when I was on the 920, everytime an update was announced I could get it pretty much instantly.
    I don't think anyone in US or Canada has received yet. It was announced it was a gradual rollout, not everyone gets at same time.
    12-29-2015 12:36 PM
  3. phelme's Avatar
    Thus lending to the rumors that carriers may have some say with firmware releases.
    12-29-2015 02:25 PM
  4. bilemke's Avatar
    Thus lending to the rumors that carriers may have some say with firmware releases.
    Looking for news post, maybe on another site, but fairly certain ATT has already commented (not just rumor) that MS in in charge of OS updates. But firmware is still MS + Carrier approval. With that said, ATT... windows device firmware updates, not surprised if on ATT you haven't seen the update. And yeah, unlocked device on ATT plan/sim/network is still a device on ATT network. I could easily see them being able to control the firmware update to your unlocked device because of it being on their network. Would just block data path (proxy filter, etc) to the firmware update only, vs firmware and os updates both.

    Or, ATT or other US carrier is not that involved on this firmware update, and it is "the staged/gradual roll out". And other parts of world get it earlier in some cases while we wait. If you want to test the carrier part, and own a unlocked full, it would seem pulling the sim and doing a hard reset and then checking for updates without sim/carrier/cell involved (say via wifi only to your home internet connection) would be a way to test that theory. ;)
    12-29-2015 04:48 PM
  5. ferretzombie's Avatar
    Still haven't gotten it on my 950xl on .36 in the US, T-mobile is carrier.
    12-29-2015 05:05 PM
  6. snakebitten's Avatar
    It's coming. Like Christmas, it might seem like a long wait at times. But someday soon, you'll be waiting for yet the next update.
    The trick is to enjoy your most recent present(s), while you rest certain that it isn't your last.
    jlangner and KickAssLumia like this.
    12-29-2015 07:52 PM
  7. ukod's Avatar
    Received my update earlier today. Currently on Three's network.
    12-29-2015 09:27 PM
  8. Iain_S's Avatar
    I think us in Canada and the US will be waiting till Jan 2016 before we get the updated firmware.
    ale2999 likes this.
    12-29-2015 09:55 PM
  9. Marsiss Tian's Avatar
    I got my .36 update last week, in US.
    12-29-2015 10:43 PM
  10. ale2999's Avatar
    Haven't got it in Canada. Also on .29
    12-30-2015 02:16 AM
  11. mariusmuntean's Avatar
    I think us in Canada and the US will be waiting till Jan 2016 before we get the updated firmware.
    The same situation is in Romania with phones from Orange network. When a bunch of idiots are responsible for the "so called" testing of the update, which btw is a total crap reason, we have to wait for weeks for the update.
    I think I'll reflash my 950 with the European Non branded ROM and be done with this carrier delays.
    12-30-2015 03:00 AM
  12. anthonyng's Avatar
    we have unlocked phones in canada.... what carrier approval?
    12-30-2015 03:16 AM
  13. Pete's Avatar
    we have unlocked phones in canada.... what carrier approval?
    Yeah, this is one of the more frustrating parts of having an unlocked phone.

    Back in the WP8.1 days, Microsoft used to allocate update slots for firmware updates prioritised toward:
    * handset/carriers that were selling best at the time
    * carriers that had completed testing for a particular handset
    * everything else

    The net effect being that unlocked phones tended to be prioritised lower than carrier branded updates. I suppose that Microsoft could well be performing more tests on the unlocked firmware as they have to work on all carriers (as opposed to just the one).

    I'm guessing that at some point, the updated firmware will be uploaded to WDRT.
    12-30-2015 04:00 AM
  14. Aurelink's Avatar
    I'm guessing that at some point, the updated firmware will be uploaded to WDRT.
    A guy told on another forum (a french one, that I browse really often) that it was the case.
    I didn't check for myself, but I might, since I still didn't get the firmware update neither
    12-30-2015 08:42 AM
  15. qwertyops's Avatar
    Did you get .36 while being on the Windows Insider slow/fast ring? I can't get it on Windows Insider at all on my 950XL. I have even done a hard reset to no joy. Frustrating.
    12-30-2015 11:38 AM
  16. dKp1977's Avatar
    I'm not getting it either. Germany, unlocked.
    12-30-2015 11:42 AM
  17. bells0's Avatar
    Nothing in the UK for my unlocked direct from MS. On the 3 network. Seems to be live in the UK, but not triggering on mine.

    .36 in preview
    12-30-2015 12:16 PM
  18. Krystianpants's Avatar
    os .36, carrier Rogers in Canada, not getting it.

    Canadian carriers don't care much for these phones and if they have to test may not prioritize. I think Ms needs to get testing facilities for all carriers and prove tests passed and then go on with it. But again if this requires any intervention and given that most people are still away on holidays, it won't be till after 2016 for most people.
    12-30-2015 12:32 PM
  19. ronaldme's Avatar
    Looking for news post, maybe on another site, but fairly certain ATT has already commented (not just rumor) that MS in in charge of OS updates. But firmware is still MS + Carrier approval. With that said, ATT... windows device firmware updates, not surprised if on ATT you haven't seen the update. And yeah, unlocked device on ATT plan/sim/network is still a device on ATT network. I could easily see them being able to control the firmware update to your unlocked device because of it being on their network. Would just block data path (proxy filter, etc) to the firmware update only, vs firmware and os updates both.

    Or, ATT or other US carrier is not that involved on this firmware update, and it is "the staged/gradual roll out". And other parts of world get it earlier in some cases while we wait. If you want to test the carrier part, and own a unlocked full, it would seem pulling the sim and doing a hard reset and then checking for updates without sim/carrier/cell involved (say via wifi only to your home internet connection) would be a way to test that theory. ;)
    OS updates: Microsoft via OTA, carriers are not involved at all
    Firmware updates with changes affecting antenna: carriers via OTA
    Firmware updates with drivers not related to antenna: Microsoft via OTA
    12-30-2015 12:55 PM
  20. GSOgymrat's Avatar
    I'm on AT&T in the US and I am still on .29.
    12-30-2015 02:34 PM
  21. Jerry Stevens2's Avatar
    Am very pleased with the new firmware so far, WiFi speed is much better, phone runs cooler and battery life on standby much improved ☺
    anthonyng and dashrendar like this.
    12-30-2015 04:24 PM
  22. ronaldme's Avatar
    I'm on AT&T in the US and I am still on .29.
    .29 is the OS version (10.0.10586.29), not the firmware version
    12-30-2015 04:42 PM
  23. MP3Mike's Avatar
    And yeah, unlocked device on ATT plan/sim/network is still a device on ATT network. I could easily see them being able to control the firmware update to your unlocked device because of it being on their network. Would just block data path (proxy filter, etc) to the firmware update only, vs firmware and os updates both.
    Very doubtful that they can do anything to block the firmware updates for unlocked/non-branded devices. After all, almost all of the updates require downloading over WiFi. And AT&T better not be intercepting my WiFi signals.

    And even if they could, you could just turn off, or take out, the SIM do the update and then turn it back on. In theory they could block the new update from accessing their network, but I think that would run afoul the BYOD rules.
    12-30-2015 05:20 PM
  24. GSOgymrat's Avatar
    Oops! Thanks.
    12-30-2015 05:44 PM
  25. mmcpher's Avatar
    It would have been nice to have the firmware camera upgrade for Christmas, rather than to suffer through dark and blurry pictures around the tree (at least compared to prior years with my 1520). I tried to update my unlocked 950 XL running on AT&T with WDRT, with the sim card in and out, and no dice. I can't recall how this worked back in the late Lumia days, but I was able to get Denim somehow way before AT&T released it, through some Insider-like method. Maybe through Preview for Developers? If this isn't imminent, I hope they Insider the firmware up. Carriers be damned.
    12-30-2015 05:50 PM
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