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  1. Xaxxus's Avatar
    The first question that needs to be asked is WHY are you unhappy with your 640 XL? Is it too slow? Do you not like WP 8.1? Are you unhappy with the app quality?

    If you answered yes to question 1, you might want the 950 XL. If you answered yes to any of the others, the 950 XL is not going to fix the problem, and in some cases it might worsen the problem.
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    01-19-2016 09:22 AM
  2. Blacklizted's Avatar
    Ok...I have a 640XL now. Not happy with it. So at this point should I buy a 950XL (it would be an unlocked one) or should I wait it out and see what becomes of these "Surface Phone" rumors??
    Buy the 950XL and you won't regret it. I'm now selling my Lumia 1520 and Olympus PEN E-PL7 because the 950XLs camera is just that great.
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    01-19-2016 09:31 AM
  3. Sonic98's Avatar
    I really don't see the point of waiting on the Surface Phone. We keep talking about it, but it's going to have a specific market just like the Surface Pro, at least in the short term. The 950 line is a good set of phones. It's hard to imagine the Surface Phone totally blowing it out of the water, and really not many of us truly need a phone with an Intel processor. The only reason to wait is if you think there will be multiple improvements over the 950

    Ok...I have a 640XL now. Not happy with it. So at this point should I buy a 950XL (it would be an unlocked one) or should I wait it out and see what becomes of these "Surface Phone" rumors??
    What's wrong with it?

    Buy the 950 XL. Slap a Mozo back cover on it if you want that premium feel (I know, it should have already had that premium feel out the box but whaddaya gonna do). Expansys USA has the 950 XL for a very reasonable price! It'll last you past the first iteration of the future Surface Phone. Then get the second generation Surface Phone after hopefully all the bugs and kinks have been ironed out.
    Which cover do you consider the premium feeling one?
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    01-19-2016 10:27 AM
  4. Rupert Holmes's Avatar
    Returned my XL, will wait as long as my 1020 holds out. If they fix my issues, I will get another XL or 950.
    01-19-2016 10:35 AM
  5. jmagwp's Avatar
    Personally, having the 950XL since launch I can say just wait for the Surface phone. The device itself is ok for the most part, but W10M is a hot mess. Perhaps by the time the Surface phone is launched W10M will be out of beta. And the quirks of the 950/XL should be ironed out with the Surface phone if the other Surface devices are any indication of build quality and such.
    andraeseus likes this.
    01-19-2016 11:26 AM
  6. BLKahuna's Avatar
    The title of the thread is 950XL now or rumored Surface Phone later. I ground on that decision myself but finally did this.

    If you are in the US, AT&T offers the 950 (which I prefer to the XL anyway). If you purchase it with the AT&T Next 12 plan you can return it after 12 months from purchase. I believe you must replace it with another phone from AT&T, however. The price of the phone is split over 20 months so I'm paying about $30/mo for the phone.

    So if the Surface phone materializes in Q4 2016 as rumored and AT&T stocks it (they've had every WP flagship so far) I can grab it in November. I return my 950 to AT&T having paid 12x$30=$360 to use if for a year. I owe nothing more for the 950 and only have to purchase the Surface phone from AT&T to complete the deal.

    BTW - I really love my 950...
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    01-19-2016 01:37 PM
  7. Gregory Newman's Avatar
    The question is Will there be a windows 10 "Surface" smart phone. Various Prototypes are being tested buy no Official word is out about them.
    Windows smart phones Fans like me want Microsoft to make both an ARMS CPU version and the Intel CPU version Surface smart phone. Windows smart phone fans want the Intel CPU version to run full x86/win32 Desktop programs so we can use them in the Windows 10 smart phone's "continuum mode if we desire to do so. Windows 10 smart phones future could depend on the Intel CPU "Surface" Windows 10 OS smart phones because they can be made to run MILLIONS of Dskstop Computer programs plus regular smart phone apps
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    01-19-2016 02:13 PM
  8. vlad0's Avatar
    Returned my XL, will wait as long as my 1020 holds out. If they fix my issues, I will get another XL or 950.
    what issues are those ?
    01-19-2016 04:13 PM
  9. Dinky89484's Avatar
    Which cover do you consider the premium feeling one?
    I can't speak to any other case aside from the Black Leather Mozo back cover with wannabe metalic/metal sides. It adds a lil heft to the phone and gives it (in my opinion) a premium feel.
    01-19-2016 04:21 PM
  10. Hamper's Avatar
    Honestly I wouldn't pay $849 CAN for the 950XL which is its price in Canada, but I found a white dual SIM model on Kijiji in NIB condition for a negotiated $600 ($420US) last week and I had to grab it.
    After using it for a week I would say it is a significant upgrade from my Lumia Icon WP8.1 and makes that OS feel like using WP7 after I having WP8x for a while. I test drove a build of 10 mobile in August and had to remove it because it was terrible then, it's 98% percent there now. The camera is bananas, Windows Hello is fun and the screen quality is amazing. Glitches? A few, I had to restart it once because Hello stopped working, Outlook crashed twice when trying to send an email with photo attachment, and whenever I delete a photo the confirmation dialog box looks unfinished because the bottom part of the letters is cut off. That's about it so far.
    01-19-2016 04:40 PM
  11. JD_Morecraft's Avatar
    950XL is a good phone, there are a few issues that just annoy the crap out of me an da lot of other people.

    1) opening a text message from the notification screen can spawn an infant black screen until you hit the home button and then go back into the messaging app

    2) Opening the camera app from the lock screen from the camera button can cause the black screen of annoyance issue as the message app from notification screen

    3) Taking a picture from the messaging app, using the attach>camera can cause the messaging app to crash and lose any unsent message and photos

    4) If you are going out for the day, you must have a portable power brick, or you will be mad around 4PM when your phone tells you the battery is about to die, and before you can click "OK" it shuts off.
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    01-19-2016 06:08 PM
  12. im.thatoneguy's Avatar
    Ok...I have a 640XL now. Not happy with it. So at this point should I buy a 950XL (it would be an unlocked one) or should I wait it out and see what becomes of these "Surface Phone" rumors??
    Buy a 950XL. I would have quit Windows Phone entirely by the time the surface phone came out if I had to stay on the 1020 any longer.
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    01-19-2016 06:30 PM
  13. jcrod73's Avatar
    The first question that needs to be asked is WHY are you unhappy with your 640 XL? Is it too slow? Do you not like WP 8.1? Are you unhappy with the app quality?
    ...What's wrong with it?

    My reasons why I am unhappy with the 640XL are posted on page 3 of this thread...I received my 950XL yesterday. So far, it's way better than my 640XL experience (knock on wood). I will update in more detail after using it throughout the weekend.
    01-20-2016 11:57 AM
  14. Wineglass4Two's Avatar
    I bought my 950xl on Saturday and have it essentially all set up now. Had the Icon model before this and I have not had any issues with the operation of the XL. So far I would highly recommend.
    01-21-2016 05:55 PM
  15. DasWindows's Avatar
    Normally i would buy the 950 xl, but since it is not on verizon, what i am hoping is that the surface phone will be on verizon. If not, i'm not sure if i will ever buy a windows phone (even though i want it). But i just hear to much bad from AT&T.
    01-21-2016 10:09 PM
  16. signal-2-noise's Avatar
    01-21-2016 11:04 PM
  17. Captpt's Avatar
    Well if we buy into his view we might as well sell our Windows phones now and get a iPhone or Android, his take is Windows phones are dead and just waiting for the grave to be dug!!! Sorry but I'm not buying into it, MS wouldn't put Panos Panay and his Surface engineers on a dead project..
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    01-22-2016 07:05 AM
  18. ronaldme's Avatar
    Well if we buy into his view we might as well sell our Windows phones now and get a iPhone or Android, his take is Windows phones are dead and just waiting for the grave to be dug!!! Sorry but I'm not buying into it, MS wouldn't put Panos Panay and his Surface engineers on a dead project..
    Unless he means "Windows Phone 8 is dead", but I think he means Windows (Phone and 10), it is weird because Windows 10 phones are part of Windows 10 ecosystem, and Windows 10 is growing.
    Captpt likes this.
    01-22-2016 01:18 PM
  19. snakebitten's Avatar
    I'm almost 60 years old and changed careers mid-way when DOS showed up on the scene.
    (It was a good decision for feeding the family)

    Predictions about Microsoft almost always look funny in the rear view mirror.
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    01-22-2016 03:20 PM
  20. jcrod73's Avatar
    Normally i would buy the 950 xl, but since it is not on verizon, what i am hoping is that the surface phone will be on verizon. If not, i'm not sure if i will ever buy a windows phone (even though i want it). But i just hear to much bad from AT&T.
    Go with T-Mobile...I switched from Verizon, who were ripping me off, to T-Mobile. My family & me get WAY MUCH more for our money and the service is not bad at all...Even if you live in a trouble spot, like we do, T-Mobile will help you out for FREE!! They will hook you up with one of their extender devices. Plus if you have a phone that can do WiFi calling then you're all set. Since I have had the 640XL and now the 950XL which do not have the WiFi calling option, they sent me a signal booster device. When I was with Verizon their maps state that we are in a 4G LTE area but we would only get 1, maybe 2 bars. Dropped calls all the time. VZW did an inspection and determined that we are in a "marginal" area. Their fix?? To BUY a cell booster from them for $250 or switch to a different carrier!!! What a bunch of D-Bags!!
    01-22-2016 10:15 PM
  21. Keith White Jr's Avatar
    Go with T-Mobile...I switched from Verizon, who were ripping me off, to T-Mobile. My family & me get WAY MUCH more for our money and the service is not bad at all...Even if you live in a trouble spot, like we do, T-Mobile will help you out for FREE!! They will hook you up with one of their extender devices. Plus if you have a phone that can do WiFi calling then you're all set. Since I have had the 640XL and now the 950XL which do not have the WiFi calling option, they sent me a signal booster device. When I was with Verizon their maps state that we are in a 4G LTE area but we would only get 1, maybe 2 bars. Dropped calls all the time. VZW did an inspection and determined that we are in a "marginal" area. Their fix?? To BUY a cell booster from them for $250 or switch to a different carrier!!! What a bunch of D-Bags!!
    I switched from Verizon to T-Mobile a few years ago and it was not good. They had really bad coverage in my area and I dropped calls everywhere I went. But I will say that their customer service was top notch and they even let me out of my contract without a fee because the bad coverage wasn't my fault. That was years ago when I had my Nokia N-Gage QD so maybe they have better coverage now.

    I ended up going with AT&T and now I am with AT&T owned Cricket. The prices are great and the coverage is fantastic. I wont leave Cricket unless I absolutely have to.

    But I do agree that Verizon is just awful! They do not care at all about making customers happy or retaining them. I would rather have no phone then give them my money again!
    01-23-2016 09:27 AM
  22. DasWindows's Avatar
    I switched from Verizon to T-Mobile a few years ago and it was not good. They had really bad coverage in my area and I dropped calls everywhere I went. But I will say that their customer service was top notch and they even let me out of my contract without a fee because the bad coverage wasn't my fault. That was years ago when I had my Nokia N-Gage QD so maybe they have better coverage now.

    I ended up going with AT&T and now I am with AT&T owned Cricket. The prices are great and the coverage is fantastic. I wont leave Cricket unless I absolutely have to.

    But I do agree that Verizon is just awful! They do not care at all about making customers happy or retaining them. I would rather have no phone then give them my money again!


    I would never go t-mobile but was considering AT&T. Haven't been with them since they were cingular .

    But i need to make sure my connection is always good if i switch. From what i am constant;y told, verizon (yes price), is just way better. I have 6 months until my plan is up and either i will hold out for microsoft event or if they make versions for verizon.

    Really sucks that i can't just pick the phone i want.
    01-23-2016 11:15 AM
  23. kklemn's Avatar
    Actually now it costs 24x24, which is 576, on simobil at least :) But we only have a single SIM option :)

    Lep pozdrav iz kranja
    It's still the same on Mobitel carrier. And still hoping for surface phone :D
    Lep pozdrav iz Mlake pri Kranju ;)
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    01-25-2016 07:04 PM
  24. TennisGuy45's Avatar
    If you need a phone, get the 950xl. Why suffer and wait for something you dont know when will come out and if it will meet your needs?

    If you dont need a phone, wait. Why buy something you dont need?
    01-25-2016 07:07 PM
  25. jcrod73's Avatar
    My reasons why I am unhappy with the 640XL are posted on page 3 of this thread...I received my 950XL yesterday. So far, it's way better than my 640XL experience (knock on wood). I will update in more detail after using it throughout the weekend.
    It's almost been a week with my new 950XL and I have to say that I have not had any major issues with it. I LOVE the Windows Hello feature...It's quicker, no freezing issues, and things are working as they should. I have not been frustrated as I was with the 640XL. I haven't been afraid to know if my phone would function correctly when I picked it up to use it. One thing that I'm not sure of, because I haven't really paid attention to it, is the battery life. I'll have to dedicate my attention to that to make a good assessment. Oh and one major problem I am having is with the Bluetooth. It would just disconnect from my headset for no reason at all...Otherwise I am pretty damn happy with it!!
    01-25-2016 11:43 PM
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