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  1. VermaEklavya's Avatar
    I like watermelon and you like cantaloupe, and who are you or I to say the other is wrong.
    You sir deserve a huge SUPER LIKE and DOUBLE THUMBS UP! You are a dying breed and should preserve and propagate this attitude before it goes extinct
    01-28-2016 01:31 AM
  2. VermaEklavya's Avatar
    Well for the cost benefit
    Well not really a cost benefit for me. I use a Nexus 6P. It has the same processor and RAM capacity, USB type C, same screen resolution and ppi, an even bigger battery, double the base memory (64GB), and fingerprint instead of iris scanning. All of that for $200 lesser than the 950XL here in NZ. The camera is also quite satisfactory for my needs. And like I mentioned somewhere here, removable battery and MicroSD support aren't deal breakers for me. Your input though is appreciated
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    01-28-2016 01:41 AM
  3. Alxgn's Avatar
    In a year from now, if it goes under the 350$ level, maybe... but for now my opinion is NO... the 950 is a great device but it's not a sensible buy at this point of time. Furthermore, I do already own the 640XL witch does its job just fine and I'm sure it will continue to do so for the next 2 years at least. I'd rather wait for the new "surface" type phone, it's probably coming in 2017 (give or take a quarter..) and with full windows operating system, hopefully. And that, is something worth waiting for.
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    01-28-2016 01:54 AM
  4. zdenekvanik's Avatar
    I was a little skeptic when considering whether to buy 950XL or not.
    First reason was that my 920 was dated and could not cope with my needs.
    I dont regret that I bought it, I dont have any problems that I had with 920 and WM10 combination like occasional crazy battery drain, resuming lags etc.
    Personally Im very satisfied with the device and Im glad I didnt have to go the iOS or android way.
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    01-28-2016 04:41 AM
  5. mariusmuntean's Avatar
    Had my 950 for a month. Nice phone, great camera, but the OS is terrible, a complete wreck! So I returned it.
    01-28-2016 05:44 AM
  6. John McIlhinney's Avatar
    Before I got my current 950 XL, every phone I had ever owned had been from Nokia. My first phone was a 5110 and my last non-Lumia was an E7. I was very happy with the phones I had at the time. When it came time to replace my E7, Nokia were full-swing into Windows Phone and I didn't see any reason to break my tradition.

    I'm a .NET developer by trade so I figured that it made sense to get a Windows Phone and leverage the skills I already had to develop for mobile on that platform. The Lumia 920 was out at that time and the 925 was just about to come out. I liked the style of the 925 more so I waited a little while until Vodafone Australia, with whom I'd been contracted for a number of years, offered the 925. Happily they had an exclusive in Australia on the 32 GB model.

    That phone served me well but I do like an upgrade so it was pretty much a given that I'd get a 950 or 950 XL when they were released. It wasn't about bragging rights but simply that I wanted the best Windows Phone I could get. I've been a Windows 10 Insider since the beginning and I'm very happy with Windows 10 on my desktop and laptop at home. I bought a Lumia 530 to test Windows 10 Mobile on and put it on my 925 as soon as I felt it was stable enough. I've never really had any issues with it, although I acknowledge that I've been luckier than some. I like Windows 10 on both PC and phone.

    I've had very little to do with either iOS or Android. If I was to use either or both seriously then I might discover that I'd been missing something. I don't know. As it stands though, I find that Windows 10 Mobile on the Lumia 950 XL does everything I feel I need and I like it. That's why I got the phone: I like it and it works for me.
    01-28-2016 06:40 AM
  7. Genio88's Avatar
    For me it was the natural successor, i've always hated android, andi was a Apple guy when Steve Jobs was there and iPhone was a real revolution, i had the first iPhone 3G and then the iPhone 4, though iPhone 5 looks like **** so i switched to Lumia with the 730 just to try windows phone, i loved that it was pretty fast and snappy just like IOS, but it was a medium range phone and i needed a flagship, so i bought the Lumia 930, awesome device, i had it until recently when i bought the 950XL, i loved the 930 but i wanted something lighter and thinner and also a bigger screen, so the 950XL was the perfect choice, now i'm enjoying it, though windows 10 isn't really ready yet, i hope it'll be as soon as possible, cause it's the only thing which is holding the 950XL to be the best phone out there
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    01-28-2016 08:09 AM
  8. PrinceM's Avatar
    I went from a Note 4 to the 950 XL because I

    * was sick and tired of the lack of support from Samsung regarding updates for the Note-series
    * was tired of Androids GUI
    * found out that Continuum on 950 XL is one of the best things that have happened to phones since Iphone came out several years ago

    I've never used a Windows Phone before the 950 XL.
    01-28-2016 09:31 AM
  9. thinkitthrough's Avatar
    "So I urge you to ask yourselves, and also let me know in the process, why did you really buy the new Lumia 950/XL?"

    a) Is it because the platform and device are helping you achieve everything you want from your mobile device, in a way no other platform can, and how?
    >>>>> Yes, for me the Windows mobile platform is superior in terms of user-interface, overall efficiency, and integration with the core get-the-work-done apps (MSFT Office suite, OneDrive, Office Lens, etc.). Windows Phone/Windows 10 Mobile devices come loaded with more capability built-in to the OS and MSFT's productivity apps preloaded, so there is FAR less need to load up on apps to get the job done - they are mostly already there. My current device (daily driver) is a 950, dual-SIM, unlocked, purchased at a MSFT retail store and activated on AT&T prepay.

    b) Were you suckered into buying something new and shiny because you are a part of this community and thought that was the in-thing to do, and if so do you regret it?
    >>>>> Not suckered, mine was a well-researched, deliberate decision. I was coming from an Android 4.1 device, had purchased a $50 Lumia 635 on prepay for a few months as a trial of WP8.1, determined that for me WP is where it's at, bought the 950 and ported my main number from Android phone to the 950. No regrets whatsoever, although I admit W10M was initially disappointingly buggy, as of 10586.29 less buggy, but still not fully baked.

    c) Bragging rights, and if so, how is it helping you achieve them?
    >>>>> This kind of thought never enters my mind, was absolutely not a factor for me.

    d) Any other reason.
    >>>>> FIRST, in my opinion Windows Phone/Windows 10 Mobile is for people who just want to get the job done and move on to the next task, or get the work done and go home and spend time with family. In my observations, both iOS and Android are, generalizing here, more for people who need or want to be entertained, and/or "be seen" with the coolest, mainstream device.
    SECOND, I am enthralled with the way Cortana is so well integrated with Bluetooth headsets and wired earbuds. It enables vastly safer driving and vastly increased productivity, not just while driving, but any time one wants to have their hands free to do other work around the house/office/yard. Apparently it's just me, but I really can't believe that MSFT (as well as all WP/W10M reviewers, as well as these Windows-centric websites) never even mention Cortana's amazing capabilities that let me hear texts and dictate replies while driving, never touching or even glancing at the phone, allows me to safely dictate emails while driving, bring up traffic conditions webpages without ever touching the phone, and of course the expected capability to set reminders, etc. via voice commands. But what sets WP/W10M apart, as far as I can tell, is the automatic integration with connected BT headsets and wired earbuds/headsets (see Cortana > hamburger menu > notebook > settings > "Read incoming text messages aloud" > Bluetooth and wired headsets).
    01-28-2016 12:57 PM
  10. NFLPLAYBOOK's Avatar
    Both me and my wife have a 950xl. Got it for the expandable storage, removable battery, gorgeous screen, face unlock camera (though not as good as the one on my SP4), the camera, the size, and the convenient Qi charging. As for bugs and problems, I don't know what anyone is talking about. Zero issues so far with the phones. Windows 10 still needs some work though. I'm not a huge app person so this phone has far more advantages over any other phone on the market, including Continuum. It also has top rate internals. Better question is why would I not buy it.
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    01-28-2016 02:03 PM
  11. gorliver's Avatar
    I'm a fan of Nokia, so a fan of lumia. MS bought Nokia, still a fan of lumia. So bought the latest lumia 950.
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    01-28-2016 02:42 PM
  12. Maxwell Fong's Avatar
    To be really honest I bought the Lumia 950 just because I promised myself to buy the first flagship phone carrying W10M lol. I have owned the Lumia 800 and 925 before. Then I switched for an iPhone handed down from a cousin because my 925 was bricked.

    But after using the 950 for about a month, I can say that W10M itself is really good. The UI is nice and much cleaner, navigation is much easier, and Windows Hello is pretty impressive and useful. The biggest advantage of all though is really the unified experience across all Windows platforms. I own a SP3 and Band 2, and they sync beautifully between each other. I can access my files, music and photos easily from my phone. All my favorite websites and reading list show up on my phone. Yes OneDrive, Office, Groove Music and Cortana is available on iOS and Android, but since they are not built-in the OS, the process is much more slower. You have to wait for the app to startup and fetch each file individually. Missed calls and camera roll show up on my SP3. Alarms on my Lumia syncs with my Band 2, music control is very fluent, and Cortana just works amazingly on my Band 2. So yeah, the whole Windows experience is really breathtaking.

    However here's the worst part: the apps. Mail app just sucks. No focused inbox and no correct email formatting. I'd rather check my Outlook on Edge. Maps is really dumb when it comes to public transit options. It recommends you to make unnecessary interchanges, and it lacks departure/arrival time options. Instagram, Facebook Messenger, Dropbox, Wunderlist, Foursquare, Tumblr, WhatsApp, WeChat, LINE and many more apps are still stuck in WP8 era. And I'm a huge YouTube and Snapchat user. And Sway from Microsoft Office is not even available on Microsoft phones. So to compensate for that, I still carry my iPhone 4S around. Also myTube and 6tag are really good substitutes. There are some good official and native apps, like Weather, Calendar, Facebook, Duolingo, Zomato, etc, but unfortunately they only make up a minority of the Store.

    So if you really want to enjoy the Windows experience, I would definitely recommend the Lumia 950/950XL, but don't throw away your old phone just yet. And for those who have never used a Windows Phone, don't do it just yet. Wait until the apps get better.

    P.S. Groove Music is actually really good. You can stream music directly from your OneDrive, and with the Pass it easily wins over Apple Music and Spotify. However because it streams in full-quality, it will use up a lot of your cellular data.
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    01-28-2016 02:57 PM
  13. nestie dela cruz's Avatar
    great answer !!!!!!
    01-28-2016 04:20 PM
  14. MirthRock's Avatar
    I'm the first to admit, I'm a bit of a fanboy, but I bought it because I really buy into the vision Continuum. I've been using it for a bit now, and its a game changer if they can get it right. The idea of carrying one device with access to everything and the ability put that device on any monitor screen and have it act as a computer is fascinating. Don't get me wrong...it needs A LOT of work. But, I'm buying in at the ground floor in hopes that they can pull it off.
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    01-28-2016 04:21 PM
  15. anon(6078578)'s Avatar
    And for those who have never used a Windows Phone, don't do it just yet. Wait until the apps get better.
    And herein lies the perennial Windows Mobile dilemna
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    01-28-2016 04:23 PM
  16. VermaEklavya's Avatar
    I'm a .NET developer by trade so I figured that it made sense to get a Windows Phone and leverage the skills I already had to develop for mobile on that platform.
    That's nice, and I understand that now since the core is the same, you would have more reference points for development on the platform. That's good to know :)
    01-28-2016 09:22 PM
  17. VermaEklavya's Avatar
    was sick and tired of the lack of support from Samsung regarding updates for the Note-series
    Oh I know about that first hand lol
    01-28-2016 09:24 PM
  18. gordonfink's Avatar
    Sorry, but the pretext of the OP is so far off base, this thread deserves no responses.
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    01-28-2016 09:33 PM
  19. iyae's Avatar
    Hi sorry but most of you might not like this question. However with all the reports of bugs on the Lumias 950/XL and Windows 10 Mobile in general, it seems to me all those who bought these phones, did specifically so they could get some bragging rights in the community of Windows Mobile enthusiasts, on this and other similar sites. So I urge you to ask yourselves, and also let me know in the process, why did you really buy the new Lumia 950/XL?
    a) Is it because the platform and device are helping you achieve everything you want from your mobile device, in a way no other platform can, and how?
    b) Were you suckered into buying something new and shiny because you are a part of this community and thought that was the in-thing to do, and if so do you regret it?
    c) Bragging rights, and if so, how is it helping you achieve them?
    d) Any other reason.
    I have an android phone currently (Nexus 6P), however I miss my older Windows Phone (8.1) and want to get a perspective here before I jump ship, hence only serious answers please.
    if you want serious answers, maybe you shouldn't have filled your post with loaded questions? This wasn't a serious post. You clearly have no ability to see outside of your narrow hatred for the devices. Go away.
    01-28-2016 10:00 PM
  20. VermaEklavya's Avatar
    I am enthralled with the way Cortana is so well integrated with Bluetooth headsets and wired earbuds. It enables vastly safer driving and vastly increased productivity, not just while driving, but any time one wants to have their hands free to do other work around the house/office/yard. Apparently it's just me, but I really can't believe that MSFT (as well as all WP/W10M reviewers, as well as these Windows-centric websites) never even mention Cortana's amazing capabilities that let me hear texts and dictate replies while driving, never touching or even glancing at the phone, allows me to safely dictate emails while driving, bring up traffic conditions webpages without ever touching the phone, and of course the expected capability to set reminders, etc. via voice commands.
    I wish I could share the same experience. Unfortunately, Cortana is not available in my country, and I'm sure it isn't for a lot of users of this website. Hence I believe people refrain from mentioning it around too much, just so it doesn't anger others.

    Though now that you mention it, I remember this was also one of the reasons why W10M on my Lumia 520 bugged me so much. For all the 'Cortana this, Cortana that' which I read on Windows Central, Winbeta and similar sites, I could never really try it on my phone. On first boot, my phone would give me Australia as the default region (I live in NZ, but my phone has Australian firmware). If I chose US at that point, it would restart, but then start showing me some weird combination of English UK and English US under the language setting. If I did not choose US and stuck with Australia, it would not let me download the US language pack later.

    Because of these issues, I could never really experience Cortana as that service was intended to be. The couple of times it did work, it was super laggy and buggy, and slowed the phone so much that it would go to sleep a couple of times before even registering touch input. Also since I was determined to use it as my daily driver, I would always login with my primary Microsoft account to sync emails and contacts onto my phone (what else is the point of the Insider Program otherwise). Those few times when my phone language and phone region could set to US, it would start glitching out, showing random error messages. This, I later diagnosed, was happening because the region on my Microsoft account is NZ, which was creating conflict with my phone's region settings of US. So much so, that my PC started lagging and behaving when I logged into my MS account there. At those times, I would roll back to WP8.1 on my Lumia, leave the regional and language settings at default, then login to my MS account on my phone, and wait for another update to iron out the bugs.

    With my new Nexus 6P, somehow everything works very well. My Google phone has no issues with my Microsoft account being there too, and they work hand-in-glove. My contacts sync between the two platforms automatically, I have an Outlook app for all my emails (Gmail, Outlook and Yahoo), MS Office apps are set as default for my work files, and OneDrive syncs my photos and documents promptly and without any issues. I get to use the services that I really prefer, and yet get access to my official banking, social and professional apps as and when I need them. I haven't faced any explicit need to use Google's alternatives for these services, and doubt I will in future. Save for a voice assistant, Google Now, which is not as feature packed as Cortana. But more importantly, it is available, and I have learnt to like it.

    Having said that, I don't feel Cortana is really essential to the overall Windows 10 experience. I mean my PC is up to date with the latest RTM build of Win10, and even though I don't have Cortana on it, I still love it. But as far as phones and mobility go, I feel voice assistants are more crucial than ever before, and MS is missing a huge opportunity by not making Cortana available to more countries. Even the Cortana app for Android shows unavailable for my region, so I am out of luck on all fronts.
    01-28-2016 10:17 PM
  21. VermaEklavya's Avatar
    if you want serious answers, maybe you shouldn't have filled your post with loaded questions? This wasn't a serious post. You clearly have no ability to see outside of your narrow hatred for the devices. Go away.
    Thank you very much for sharing. I understand your pain. The questions are there simply to nudge people in the right direction. Either they will talk against the questions, or they will talk for them. But in the end, people will always give honest answers. And more importantly, they will share their experience with everyone else. At the end of the day, that is exactly what these forums are for, so people can share their experiences and help others in the process. Do not go dissing everyone my friend, you will eventually distance all those around you. Learn to love and include, and then see the community build and grow with you.

    And of course if you do not agree with any of the first three questions, there's always question 4. Cheers!
    01-28-2016 10:26 PM
  22. VermaEklavya's Avatar
    To be really honest I bought the Lumia 950 just because I promised myself to buy the first flagship phone carrying W10M lol. I have owned the Lumia 800 and 925 before. Then I switched for an iPhone handed down from a cousin because my 925 was bricked.

    But after using the 950 for about a month, I can say that W10M itself is really good. The UI is nice and much cleaner, navigation is much easier, and Windows Hello is pretty impressive and useful. The biggest advantage of all though is really the unified experience across all Windows platforms. I own a SP3 and Band 2, and they sync beautifully between each other. I can access my files, music and photos easily from my phone. All my favorite websites and reading list show up on my phone. Yes OneDrive, Office, Groove Music and Cortana is available on iOS and Android, but since they are not built-in the OS, the process is much more slower. You have to wait for the app to startup and fetch each file individually. Missed calls and camera roll show up on my SP3. Alarms on my Lumia syncs with my Band 2, music control is very fluent, and Cortana just works amazingly on my Band 2. So yeah, the whole Windows experience is really breathtaking.

    However here's the worst part: the apps. Mail app just sucks. No focused inbox and no correct email formatting. I'd rather check my Outlook on Edge. Maps is really dumb when it comes to public transit options. It recommends you to make unnecessary interchanges, and it lacks departure/arrival time options. Instagram, Facebook Messenger, Dropbox, Wunderlist, Foursquare, Tumblr, WhatsApp, WeChat, LINE and many more apps are still stuck in WP8 era. And I'm a huge YouTube and Snapchat user. And Sway from Microsoft Office is not even available on Microsoft phones. So to compensate for that, I still carry my iPhone 4S around. Also myTube and 6tag are really good substitutes. There are some good official and native apps, like Weather, Calendar, Facebook, Duolingo, Zomato, etc, but unfortunately they only make up a minority of the Store.

    So if you really want to enjoy the Windows experience, I would definitely recommend the Lumia 950/950XL, but don't throw away your old phone just yet. And for those who have never used a Windows Phone, don't do it just yet. Wait until the apps get better.

    P.S. Groove Music is actually really good. You can stream music directly from your OneDrive, and with the Pass it easily wins over Apple Music and Spotify. However because it streams in full-quality, it will use up a lot of your cellular data.
    Thank you for showing me both sides of the same coin Your answer is appreciated and duly noted
    01-28-2016 10:29 PM
  23. VermaEklavya's Avatar
    I really buy into the vision Continuum. I've been using it for a bit now, and its a game changer if they can get it right.
    Most definitely! The possibilities with Continuum are also what really got my interest back in the platform.
    01-28-2016 10:31 PM
  24. VermaEklavya's Avatar
    Sorry, but the pretext of the OP is so far off base, this thread deserves no responses.
    It managed to get yours however. Like it did with so many other wonderful people, who I'm grateful have taken the valuable time out of their day to share their stories.

    Like the one who uses it for .NET development. Or the one that was genuinely surprised to find everyone in their party was using a Windows Phone. Or the few who wanted a new flagship phone but were adamant not to jump platforms! Or the husband and wife who both use the new Lumias, and have another common interest that they share in their lives among many others. There are so many good stories here, and I'm hoping even more would come.

    I don't like running behind shiny new toys. However what Microsoft is doing has got my sincere attention. So I'm trying to find a few stories that I can personally relate to, so that when I jump ship back to Windows Mobile, I can do so with other people's positive experiences backing my decision. And also when I do end up on the other side (your side), I get to make and share my own, similar success stories, or my 'bragging rights' if you will.

    So if that is not the only thing you had to share, and if you have already purchased one of the new high-end Lumias, I would really like to know why, and how you your experience has been so far.

    Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
    01-28-2016 11:47 PM
  25. mariusmuntean's Avatar
    >>>>> FIRST, in my opinion Windows Phone/Windows 10 Mobile is for people who just want to get the job done and move on to the next task
    Well that's the problem, you can't get the job done with it, it's way too buggy. Want to put and sdcard in it, it reboots or works like an old droid, watch a movie and you get artifacts in it, apps crash or lack features, alarms work when the phone wants, quiet hours either does not kick in or out when in auto mode....and so on...many more.
    01-29-2016 05:02 AM
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