02-10-2017 07:14 AM
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  1. Fenoy's Avatar
    I too use a 950XL with ATT GoPhone and most of the time I'm connected to WiFi and when connected to WiFi my 950XL simply shows the number of bars of OTA reception I'm getting without any letters of any sort. However if I disconnect the WiFi the phone immediately indicates LTE. Reconnect to WiFi and I'm back to bars only without any alpha numeric labels. This has been the case since day one when the ATT store provided me with an ATT Sim.
    01-07-2017 12:05 AM
  2. Joe920's Avatar
    I too use a 950XL with ATT GoPhone and most of the time I'm connected to WiFi and when connected to WiFi my 950XL simply shows the number of bars of OTA reception I'm getting without any letters of any sort. However if I disconnect the WiFi the phone immediately indicates LTE. Reconnect to WiFi and I'm back to bars only without any alpha numeric labels. This has been the case since day one when the ATT store provided me with an ATT Sim.
    Yeah, that's normal. The problem here was that some phones would never show LTE. For me it turns out to have been linked to my SIM. New SIM, same provider, same account, and suddenly LTE is working again. Wish I'd found this out a year earlier!!

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    01-07-2017 07:22 AM
  3. ajj3085's Avatar
    I don't have a 950 or 950 XL, but it sounds like your status indicators changed to what appears on my international 640 XL. I am using the phone on AT&T in the US, and I was confused at first about the difference between these indicators on the AT&T branded phones compared to the factory unlocked phone.

    With my previous AT&T branded phones, the indicators were as follows
    Edge = E
    HSPA = 3G
    HSPA+ = 4G
    LTE = LTE

    With my current unbranded phone, the indicators appear as:
    Edge = E
    HSPA = H
    HSPA+ = H+
    LTE = 4G

    As you can see, it is the 4G indicator that confuses matters, but I have verified that I get LTE data when my phone shows the 4G indicator.
    I'm in the US, with AT&T & unbranded 950xl, and it says LTE. Near my gym (a dead zone), if I do get a signal it does switch to 4G, so I think 4G and LTE are different, at least in the US.
    01-11-2017 12:07 PM
  4. poit57's Avatar
    I no longer have the unlocked 640 XL, but I am carrying an unlocked 950 now (still on AT&T). I can confirm that the LTE indicator now shows "LTE" instead of 4G as I noted with my previous phone.

    One variable could be the country variant. My 640 XL was actually a Hong Kong variant. My 950 is a US model. Or it could be that the icons in Windows 10 were just updated since last February when this thread was active.
    Last edited by poit57; 01-12-2017 at 10:05 AM.
    01-12-2017 08:32 AM
  5. Robot DeviL's Avatar
    I have a 950XL dual sim with an AT&T in the SIM 1 slot. On a trip to London, I bought a EE sim and put it in the SIM 2 slot and turned of the AT& When I got back to the US, I switched the EE sim off and the AT&T sim back on. The AT&T sim only reported 4G. I tried the AT&T sim in my wife's iphone and it showed LTE. I put it back into the 950XL without the EE, with the same result - 4g. Finally, I put the AT&T sim in the SIM 2 slot and it showed LTE.

    Next I put the EE sim in SIM 1. The AT&T sim now shows 4G. Taking the EE sim out of SIM 1 and putting the AT&T in SIM 1 gets it to show LTE again.

    If you are showing 4g, try moving it to the other SIM slot and make sure there isn't another SIM in it. FYI, the EE SIM connects to T-Mobile in the US.
    Joe920 likes this.
    01-13-2017 11:26 PM
  6. Joe920's Avatar
    If you are showing 4g, try moving it to the other SIM slot and make sure there isn't another SIM in it. FYI, the EE SIM connects to T-Mobile in the US.
    I might give this a shot, because after briefly enjoying LTE on my 950XL (see a few posts up) after today's restore from backup I'm back to showing 4G.
    01-13-2017 11:45 PM
  7. WP7Nettwerk's Avatar
    4G = LTE | Long Term Evolution Don't be silly telling people wrong things.
    01-24-2017 09:47 PM
  8. WP7Nettwerk's Avatar
    There isn't difference. Only how much your operator can offer speed of internet and place where you are. 4G or LTE does it show, nothing strange and different.
    01-24-2017 09:50 PM
  9. vEEP pEEP's Avatar
    My Lumia 930 is an HK model - it shows 4G. I was told NA versions showed LTE, there was no 4G.
    Rogers does have LTE in my area, but I always see 4G (700 band)
    01-24-2017 10:39 PM
  10. poit57's Avatar
    There isn't difference. Only how much your operator can offer speed of internet and place where you are. 4G or LTE does it show, nothing strange and different.
    I don't know if it is still true, but for quite a while, AT&T marketed HSPA+ as "4G" before many of their phones were LTE capable. So, depending on carrier's marketing terms, 4G and LTE might be different.
    01-25-2017 12:59 PM
  11. Fenoy's Avatar
    My Lumia 930 is an HK model - it shows 4G. I was told NA versions showed LTE, there was no 4G.
    Rogers does have LTE in my area, but I always see 4G (700 band)
    I have a US version of the an unlocked 950XL on AT&T and 95% of the time it shows LTE. However if I go into town it will switch to 4G. I have no idea as to what band that might be operating on. I was under the impression that 4G and LTE are basically one and the same although I haven't a clue as to why the differentiation in symbols.
    01-26-2017 08:52 AM
  12. WP7Nettwerk's Avatar
    HSPA+ never been as true 4G. That is absolutly wrong. HSPA+ is upgrade existing 3G. Well right will be to tell 3.5G or Pre-4G.
    01-26-2017 10:26 AM
  13. poit57's Avatar
    From 2010:

    The International Telecommunications Union has expanded its definition of 4G service to include WiMax, LTE and HSPA+. See article HERE.
    I wasn't aware of any official definition of the term "4G" at the time, but I did work for an AT&T retail store back then. I know for a fact that many HSPA+ phones were marketed as 4G and had a 4G indicator icon well before AT&T had rolled out an LTE network.
    01-26-2017 12:07 PM
  14. PJL99's Avatar
    In AT&T's network I dial ##3282# to launch the field test. This provides interesting information on what the phone is actually doing.
    Joe920 and z8er like this.
    01-26-2017 12:54 PM
  15. Fenoy's Avatar
    Good discussion on 4G vs. LTE 4G vs LTE - key differences explained
    01-26-2017 04:19 PM
  16. WP7Nettwerk's Avatar
    This is like fake indicator marked for AT&T. And that is stupid. If AT&T cheating users, than what else they doing?
    01-27-2017 12:02 AM
  17. miodrage's Avatar
    I am in Serbia, Vipmobile operator. I have the following symbols:
    G - GPRS
    E - EDGE
    H - HSDPA
    H+ - HSPA+
    L - LTE or 4G or whatever.
    01-28-2017 02:49 AM
  18. WP7Nettwerk's Avatar
    HSPA+ = 3.5G - Pre-4G
    01-28-2017 07:09 PM
  19. fatclue_98's Avatar
    From 2010:



    I wasn't aware of any official definition of the term "4G" at the time, but I did work for an AT&T retail store back then. I know for a fact that many HSPA+ phones were marketed as 4G and had a 4G indicator icon well before AT&T had rolled out an LTE network.
    My AT&T Pre3 was listed as 4G even though it was HSDPA. As Ozzie famously quipped "how many bloody Gs are there?"
    01-28-2017 07:41 PM
  20. AndyCalling's Avatar
    Ok, so the reality regarding standards in most of the world is 2G goes up to Edge, 3G goes up to H+ and 4G is everything above. There is no such thing as 2.5/3.5G. Now, technically according to the standard H+ can be carried over a 4G network as well as a 3G network, which opened the door to some less than honest US companies marketing their H+ service as 4G to mislead. Nice. The result is that when 4G was truly introduced to the US they had to come up with a new name for it, hence LTE. If you have a non-US phone and it shows 4G that means it is running on LTE. If your US phone gets confused and thinks it is a non-US phone and starts showing 4G and H+ when it drops down, then it is running at LTE speeds whilst 4G is on the screen. It's just the phrasing that's different. Worry not, you're getting the full speed connection.
    02-10-2017 07:14 AM
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