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  1. Manfred Pohler's Avatar
    950 XL Dual SIM from B&H. Got the firmware update.

    From: 01078.00027.15506.02005
    To: 01078.00038.16025.39005
    Got nothing here on my unlocked 950XL DS - my FW is: 01078.00027.15506.02017
    02-05-2016 05:20 AM
  2. mtf1380's Avatar
    So, my question is this:

    For the Insiders that received the Firmware Update, did you receive the FW update before, or AFTER receiving the OS .71 update?

    Thanks.
    02-05-2016 08:25 AM
  3. Krystianpants's Avatar
    Still nothing in Canada. Set Windows insider to production build and restarted the day it was announced.

    :(

    They are probably waiting on carriers to respond with the go ahead. I'm sure MS shows them changes/tests done and then they approve it. The last firmware also took some time on Rogers.
    02-05-2016 08:49 AM
  4. peter leung 10586's Avatar
    So, my question is this:

    For the Insiders that received the Firmware Update, did you receive the FW update before, or AFTER receiving the OS .71 update?

    Thanks.
    after.

    the whole story is: my phone received the .71 os update as an fast ring insider. then I switched it from fast ring to production. then it received the fw update. then I switched it back to fast ring..
    02-05-2016 09:29 AM
  5. beman39's Avatar
    Still nothing in Canada. Set Windows insider to production build and restarted the day it was announced.

    :(

    They are probably waiting on carriers to respond with the go ahead. I'm sure MS shows them changes/tests done and then they approve it. The last firmware also took some time on Rogers.
    these phones don't need carrier approval except maybe the 950 AT&T models, the 950XL are unlocked and unbranded which has nothing to do with carriers... its MS who is sporadically releasing the updates lol
    02-05-2016 11:35 AM
  6. PepperdotNet's Avatar
    these phones don't need carrier approval except maybe the 950 AT&T models, the 950XL are unlocked and unbranded which has nothing to do with carriers... its MS who is sporadically releasing the updates lol
    True, but in countries where carriers are actually selling one of them (AT&T in US for example) they may wait for feedback from that carrier before blindly pushing it to all the unbranded phones in that country. If AT&T came back and said "this firmware makes the 950 unusable on our network" they would fix it first.
    02-05-2016 11:55 AM
  7. beman39's Avatar
    True, but in countries where carriers are actually selling one of them (AT&T in US for example) they may wait for feedback from that carrier before blindly pushing it to all the unbranded phones in that country. If AT&T came back and said "this firmware makes the 950 unusable on our network" they would fix it first.
    yes that would be true for the AT&T 950, which is what I said in my post... but NOT the 950XL which is also what I said in my post... so I don't get why your saying what your saying... of course MS wouldn't wait to hear from AT&T to wait to release the updates for all the 950XL's
    02-05-2016 12:06 PM
  8. msirapian's Avatar
    Unfortunately you're wrong. Firmwares contain a radio stack (cellular, etc.) and it concerns carriers. Of course, they don't control it as much as a "branded" ROM, but they have to give a green light for some parts of the firmware, even for unbranded variants.

    In France, one operator (Bouygues) always reports on Twitter when hey have "validated" the ROM, when they only sell unbranded variants.

    So Microsoft is not /totally/ independent from carriers, even for unbranded variants.
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    02-05-2016 12:14 PM
  9. mtf1380's Avatar
    after.

    the whole story is: my phone received the .71 os update as an fast ring insider. then I switched it from fast ring to production. then it received the fw update. then I switched it back to fast ring..
    Peter, thank you for that…I too, am trying that same routine, but thus far have been unsuccessful getting the FW update to hit – still in Production Mode though, and still trying to activate the FW update.
    02-05-2016 12:22 PM
  10. jlangner's Avatar
    If like before could be a week or 2 before we all get, especially US. We were one of last, last time
    02-05-2016 01:29 PM
  11. msirapian's Avatar
    France was one of the first to receive first fw update, and we haven't received the new update yet. Germany yes, but not France nor UK etc. Probably next week or week after next.
    02-05-2016 03:41 PM
  12. Krystianpants's Avatar
    yes that would be true for the AT&T 950, which is what I said in my post... but NOT the 950XL which is also what I said in my post... so I don't get why your saying what your saying... of course MS wouldn't wait to hear from AT&T to wait to release the updates for all the 950XL's
    They will wait to get approval except at&t likely won't do tests of their own, just sign of on it. On branded one they would be doing testing, which would take longer.
    02-05-2016 03:48 PM
  13. peter leung 10586's Avatar
    Peter, thank you for that…I too, am trying that same routine, but thus far have been unsuccessful getting the FW update to hit – still in Production Mode though, and still trying to activate the FW update.
    the fw update seems to be location / country dependent.
    02-05-2016 09:56 PM
  14. msirapian's Avatar
    It's not dependent on country nor location, but only on phone variant. I can take my French dual SIM device in Indonesia, it will receive the update only when the French Country Variant has an upgraded ROM. No matter where I am and which carrier I use.
    02-06-2016 02:33 AM
  15. LarsCor's Avatar
    No update here yet. Unlocked/unbranded Lumia 950 XL in the Netherlands. Came back from Insider tho, had to go back to Publish and then restarted the phone. Not sure if this might affect the availability of the fw.
    02-06-2016 07:09 AM
  16. Lifttech's Avatar
    As usual No! firmware here UK single sim EE paygo
    moved from insider to production as instructed but I give up hehe
    any UK peeps got it yet?
    Nope also in the uk single sim, no update!
    02-07-2016 02:07 AM
  17. Ryujingt3's Avatar
    Still nothing here in Thailand for the 950XL (single SIM) with Windows Insider set to Production.
    02-07-2016 04:35 AM
  18. wyabcp's Avatar
    nothing in uk yet.... unlocked non-contract device
    02-07-2016 06:34 AM
  19. JRola's Avatar
    Received my FW update on the announcement day (Feb 3rd). 950 xl single sim Hong Kong version. Canada region.
    02-07-2016 08:02 AM
  20. mtf1380's Avatar
    Still no update here, neither - South Eastern USA
    02-08-2016 01:27 PM
  21. jssmarathon's Avatar
    Had to replace my phone from Microsoft.

    Got to .71 but no FW.

    Strange..On production her in usa
    02-08-2016 01:53 PM
  22. beman39's Avatar
    still nothing here in Canada...
    02-08-2016 04:38 PM
  23. signal-2-noise's Avatar
    Are you guys just sitting around waiting for the FW update? Go do something. Have some fun! Lol.
    wyabcp likes this.
    02-08-2016 09:31 PM
  24. madusmacus's Avatar
    Are you guys just sitting around waiting for the FW update? Go do something. Have some fun! Lol.
    It wouldn't be a problem if they said why they wont to give it to all people but its more like torture than FW
    Puts me off fun :):)

    (ms store uk unlocked EE single sim - never gets firmware)
    02-09-2016 03:24 AM
  25. msirapian's Avatar
    Because Firmware contain a radio stack, and that unlike OS, Microsoft has to require (quick) validation from carriers, even for unbranded variants?

    But they will "give it to all people". Just wait a bit, it was out only last week.
    madusmacus likes this.
    02-09-2016 04:19 AM
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