04-11-2016 11:44 PM
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  1. mikepalma's Avatar
    $650 for this? 1.7% is close to zero. A 16 month Beta? Hell the lifespan of a phone is about 2 years... Post above is truthful and accurate. The problem with these fanboys who are afraid to criticize MS, is that they are actually exacerbating an already bad situation. none of these guys could convince an iOSer to.convert with this crapware. #burned
    Last edited by mikepalma; 03-14-2016 at 06:49 AM.
    03-14-2016 06:35 AM
  2. flitchtag's Avatar
    $650 for this? 1.7% is close to zero. A 16 month Beta? Hell the lifespan of a phone is about 2 years... Post above is truthful and accurate. The problem with these fanboys who are afraid to criticize MS, is that they are actually exacerbating an already bad situation. none of these guys could convince an iOSer to.convert with this crapware. #burned

    Yep this the harsh truth. W10M is literally disappearing. A Beta of this length is pitiful and I cant even show my 950xl to iphoners as its barely functional, forget actually showing off additional features! Stop accepting this garbage software and demand a product worthy of your $.
    03-14-2016 09:35 AM
  3. Corwin_Amber1's Avatar
    Yeah Mike, glad you told me what I am supposed to think. So if I was satisfied, would that be OK with you?
    03-14-2016 11:50 AM
  4. Joe920's Avatar
    The good news: after a couple of months there are only a handful (OK, two hands full) issues that annoy me daily.

    What I can recall:
    - I still try double tap to wake, I'd like this back
    - Hitting 'shuffle all' on my music collection usually fails once. Second time it works
    - Voice call quality is remarkably worse than on my Amazon Fire(sale) phone
    - I suffer the 'creaking case' syndrome, which feels a bit cheap
    - Windows Hello waits until the playback controls auto-hide, at least for some audio. Annoying
    - Still no VVM for me on 10586.164, but supposedly coming
    - Cortana isn't able to do things like "play Alabama Shakes" even though Groove knows it's on my SD card
    - I can't use Hey Cortana because of the calling echo it used to give, and I don't feel like testing this every few weeks
    - checking for updates in the store takes forever and is super uninformative. You don't get an overview of what was updated.
    - the phone does still occasionally get hot seemingly for no reason, and uses more power than it should
    - generating an email draft by 'sharing' a picture to outlook sometimes fails
    - Edge is unreliable (pages refuse to load, suggestions box overlays loaded page)
    - I'm not happy that the status of 950XL on ATT is so unclear. My display never shows LTE (onyl '4G'), although the phone does seem to be getting LTE speeds.

    Otherwise I love the high quality camera, I love the size, weight, looks. Love the Start Screen. None of first party phones (nexus, iphone) offer all hardware options I want, so I will suffer these bugs for the foreseeable future. For me definitely "the best phone", but definitely not a perfect phone by any means.
    03-14-2016 01:14 PM
  5. mikepalma's Avatar
    Yeah Mike, glad you told me what I am supposed to think. So if I was satisfied, would that be OK with you?
    Yes, please wallow in your ignorance as this platform disappears into obscurity
    03-14-2016 02:22 PM
  6. Paul1266's Avatar
    Yes, please wallow in your ignorance as this platform disappears into obscurity
    Christ you sound angry and bitter. Lighten up ffs. Try getting some perspective and maybe realise that we're not all thoroughly p*ssed off...
    Corwin_Amber1 and rollindice like this.
    03-14-2016 02:32 PM
  7. teiva's Avatar
    I'm pretty happy with my 950XL. Each build of the OS gets better,especially the current .164 OS one with the latest firmware. The only thing I miss coming from an Android phone is the Google+ app. Camera is great, Battery life is good, stability is great. I guess I'm one of the lucky ones that didn't experience all the showstopping issues. I feel for those that do.
    Corwin_Amber1 likes this.
    03-14-2016 04:00 PM
  8. Mr Hyde's Avatar
    Can't believe this guy is complaining about beta builds on a phone, that too Redstone. IT IS EXPECTED TO BE BUGGY!
    If you have issues with official software or the hardware is a mess, feel free to complain.
    I don't understand this either. Do people actually think that insider builds are the path to stability? Especially fast ring builds? it would seem to me that entering the fast ring would be the buggiest and least stable. Maybe I think that because that's what it says when you opt into the fast ring... but what do I know?
    Corwin_Amber1 and rollindice like this.
    03-14-2016 08:47 PM
  9. martinfab's Avatar
    I went back to my iPhone today. Three months of beta has been too long. I have hung in there but I am now used up. I guess I am not cut out for a Windows phone I am willing to admit I'm a quitter. I really wanted to like it and really tried hard. I really liked having a removable battery and the SD card for easily moving files around. In the end the phone was just too buggy and not improving quickly enough. Maybe I'll be back another day, for the rest of you good luck and I hope it all works out.
    03-14-2016 11:19 PM
  10. mikepalma's Avatar
    I went back to my iPhone today. Three months of beta has been too long. I have hung in there but I am now used up. I guess I am not cut out for a Windows phone I am willing to admit I'm a quitter. I really wanted to like it and really tried hard. I really liked having a removable battery and the SD card for easily moving files around. In the end the phone was just too buggy and not improving quickly enough. Maybe I'll be back another day, for the rest of you good luck and I hope it all works out.
    1.7% gets even smaller...
    03-15-2016 01:57 AM
  11. m1dawkins's Avatar
    I have had my unlocked 950XL for about 3 weeks and so far have not had any major issues at all, no unexpected reboots or having to reboot to fix a stuck app etc. The only issue I have noticed is the phone getting hot, but this has not been so noticeable since the last update .164, battery is now lasting a lot longer between charges. I am getting used to the app gap and some apps not being as good in WP or not there at all so use the mobile internet version instead e.g. Virgin My Account. The only niggle I have coming from Android is there is no 'close all' apps option when displaying all running apps, and for some reason I keep randomly pressing the Windows button when typing but will get used to the keyboard or remember to minimise the navigation bar. Overall I like the interface, and receiving regular updates, unlike Samsung/Virgin on android that was nearly 2 years before any major OS update.
    03-15-2016 02:37 AM
  12. Corwin_Amber1's Avatar
    1.7% gets even smaller...
    Whats the problem? If it fits my bill, why should I care?

    BTT, I seem to have been lucky. My Lumia 950XL is performing well. No random reboots (there were not a handful on early builds), not a single freeze. I am sorry for the people disappointed - try to get it exchanged or give it back, and rightly so. Just don't be so grim - relax.
    jdballard likes this.
    03-15-2016 11:07 AM
  13. Babs75's Avatar
    I'm having no problems, never have, not on insider, just patiently wait for each release. I moved over from Android and am very happy with my 950XL. Only thing I've found is some 'app gap' but I seem to be getting along fine using the browser instead. I haven't had any of the problems others are talking about.
    03-15-2016 03:14 PM
  14. Limer24's Avatar
    I must be very lucky. Had this phone since late November and it has run every new build without problems. Currently using the latest Redstone build. And it looks great with the Mozo red and gold case.
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    03-16-2016 06:39 PM
  15. JRDEMASKUS's Avatar
    I still spend the most time couch surfing on my 7" Android tablet.

    I picked up a BlackBerry Passport SE recently, and Love it. First BB. Moved my SIM card out of the 950XL a few days ago, I find it to be the most frustrating. Apps suddenly close, Edge on Continuum is unusable.
    (First day buy, Not on insider, very long time Windows "Mobile" user, this is my 5th WP)

    Yesterday, after several hours of using the tablet and BB, the 950XL got a turn. It only lasted an hour in my hand. I was trying to read the new camera showdown, S7 vs I6+ vs N6P vs L/M950, but the page kept freezing and reloading until I finally got a message, "We have tried to load this page several times"...I closed the page and opened it on the tablet to finish reading the article.
    In that 1 hour of using the 950XL, in airplane mode with only WiFi on, it used 36% battery, with Edge Browser at the top of the usage list. This is the first time I have EVER seen such battery use.
    I think I will take this time out to do another Factory Reset.

    My 1520 almost never left my hands vs the Nexus 5 and tablet I had at that time. Hoping to get that sense of satisfaction back soon.
    03-17-2016 09:55 AM
  16. mikepalma's Avatar
    I still spend the most time couch surfing on my 7" Android tablet.

    I picked up a BlackBerry Passport SE recently, and Love it. First BB. Moved my SIM card out of the 950XL a few days ago, I find it to be the most frustrating. Apps suddenly close, Edge on Continuum is unusable.
    (First day buy, Not on insider, very long time Windows "Mobile" user, this is my 5th WP)

    Yesterday, after several hours of using the tablet and BB, the 950XL got a turn. It only lasted an hour in my hand. I was trying to read the new camera showdown, S7 vs I6+ vs N6P vs L/M950, but the page kept freezing and reloading until I finally got a message, "We have tried to load this page several times"...I closed the page and opened it on the tablet to finish reading the article.
    In that 1 hour of using the 950XL, in airplane mode with only WiFi on, it used 36% battery, with Edge Browser at the top of the usage list. This is the first time I have EVER seen such battery use.
    I think I will take this time out to do another Factory Reset.

    My 1520 almost never left my hands vs the Nexus 5 and tablet I had at that time. Hoping to get that sense of satisfaction back soon.
    I went tthrough the hell of multiple WDRT's and hard resets and all the way back to .168. Battery still stinks on this $650 flagship. Man MS is really crapping on its customers...
    03-17-2016 12:29 PM
  17. Corwin_Amber1's Avatar
    Talk for yourself.
    03-18-2016 09:59 AM
  18. JRDEMASKUS's Avatar
    Talk for yourself.
    I used to be the one in the forums that never had as many problems as the rest of the forum with their new device. I still don't have as many problems.
    But my experience with the 950XL has not been smooth or consistent.
    Last night I spent several hours surfing on the 950XL, I did one restart in the middle of my session to head off having a problem. For the most part it was smooth surfing, and used considerably less battery than my failed attempt to surf the night before.
    As I look at the new devices being released, my Lust has not been ignited. On paper, the 950XL is still the device I want.
    03-18-2016 10:35 AM
  19. Corwin_Amber1's Avatar
    Sorry, my reply was in a hurry, clarity was the victim - I was specifically referring to 'Man MS is really crapping on its customers...' - as I am not crapped an but still a customer, I wanted to be excluded here. Like 'Man MS is really crapping on its customers... except Corwin' ;) ;) ;)
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    03-18-2016 01:48 PM
  20. raggedy b's Avatar
    Having to save videos and photos to the device as video stutters for a second on playback(different sd card may solve this)a camera that won't load sometimes when the device is locked and I have to unlock first ,other than that excellent battery life,no reboots and a very nice OS,wasn't going to get the phone having read this forum for the last few months but very pleased I did,some very unlucky people on here I guess
    03-18-2016 02:29 PM
  21. JRDEMASKUS's Avatar
    Having to save videos and photos to the device as video stutters for a second on playback(different sd card may solve this)a camera that won't load sometimes when the device is locked and I have to unlock first ,other than that excellent battery life,no reboots and a very nice OS,wasn't going to get the phone having read this forum for the last few months but very pleased I did,some very unlucky people on here I guess
    The forums tend to be a mix of satisfied and unsatisfied users.
    Usually leans heavy on "problems" because more users come looking for help.
    This is the first time I represent both.
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    03-18-2016 04:15 PM
  22. Vladimir Ka's Avatar
    The forums tend to be a mix of satisfied and unsatisfied users.
    Usually leans heavy on "problems" because more users come looking for help.
    This is the first time I represent both.
    Very true.. I dont have too many issues, but there is no big drive to post "My phone is awesome!" threads..

    The few issues with my 950XL are mostly annoyances:
    - Email doesnt show 3rd level of subfolders at all.. (big issue for me because my work email is very organized)
    - Shuffle button in Grove has to be pressed twice
    - Sometimes Grove crashes (likely my mp3s are corrupt.. and I'm too lazy to find out which ones)
    - Random reboot once a month or so..
    - Unlike my own car, when I use a rental car, volume is not restored to previous setting when connected via Bluetooth..
    - Phone overheats but only when I use Skype for 30+ minutes, nothing else makes it overheat..
    EDIT: and the touch screen is not as sensitive as Nokia Lumias :(
    Last edited by Vladimir Ka; 03-18-2016 at 05:36 PM.
    03-18-2016 05:15 PM
  23. vader42's Avatar
    I've only had the 950xl for a few weeks, but I couldn't be happier. Maybe its because I have always use devices which are not the most common. I have used Linux since the early 90s, symbian and blackberry phones for the last little while etc.

    Yes, it takes a little while to get things working the way you want, and a lot of apps aren't there, but rather than complain, I just learn to use the device.

    Saying that,I don't seem to have any of the problems others report. My 950xl is running sweetly on stock firmware. I am a firmware developer, so again maybe I do things differently, but my phone has been rock solid. As a rule I close apps I don't need anymore. Maybe this is the key to my stability?

    Love the Swype for keyboard btw. Camera is awesome and unlike almost everyone else I actually like edge. Oh well, each to their own.
    Babs75 and rollindice like this.
    03-18-2016 08:29 PM
  24. Chalanthorn Chanmathikornkul's Avatar
    Originally posted by mlekas
    Wow! I feel bad for you having all that trouble. I must say the product support for Microsoft products is hit and miss, though when I deal with the store directly they always take care of me. I bought an Assure plan when I got the phone so if anything goes wrong I just get a new phone. That said I've had no hardware issues with my 950xl that warrant an exchange.

    My case slightly squeaked when I first got it (mid-December). I stuck some pieces of sticky note on the inside corners of the case and it hasn't been an issue since. Phone occasionally gets warm & I find it's either the camera or photos app that wasn't shut down. I know it gets warm but on the other hand I'm glad to have a fast CPU.
    How did you place the stickies notes? Where? Can you send me a picture?
    03-19-2016 06:21 AM
  25. Mr Hyde's Avatar
    How did you place the stickies notes? Where? Can you send me a picture?
    Here's a quick fix for a creaky Lumia 950 XL back cover | Windows Central
    03-19-2016 01:27 PM
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