03-13-2017 05:01 PM
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  1. Scott King2's Avatar
    Hahaha no I have always been a fan of that look since the Nokia I tried one a long time back perhaps model 850 or 840? Something like that and had to return it since it had a lot of issues but always liked them.
    03-05-2017 05:55 AM
  2. JRDEMASKUS's Avatar
    I use the 950XL at home, with the dock setup to create my invoices. When I am mobile, I can show my clients their info, wether I have a data connection or not because it saved on the phone with no extra steps.
    I manage both my "Hotmail" and Gmail through my 950XL. No Problem.
    Usually when I have a browser issue, it manifests the same on both Windows and Android.
    In my opinion, most of the issues I had at release with WP10 have been fixed.
    The BB Passport SE was one of the most beautiful devices I have ever owned, but it was even less practical than Windows Phone. I now keep multiple Androids for spare, but WP is my primary OS.
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    03-05-2017 09:34 AM
  3. Player Piano's Avatar
    Well the OP did say he wasn't a fan of the other two platforms/wasn't working for him, and wanted other to chime in on whether W10M, and the 950 XL, would be a good alternative at this point and time.

    So seriously, all 13 of those phones (640XLs/950) running W10M are exhibiting same issues w/email and reboots? I didn't include 920 or HTC M8 since they weren't eligible for upgrade.

    What are you running for builds, insider, production?

    Were the 640 XLs "JUST" upgraded to W10M and left at that, or hard reset afterwards w/o using a backup, in other words, a fresh or clean install?

    I've had my fair share of problems with W10M but even I find it hard to fathom each and every device you mentioned incurred exact same ailment(s) across the board.
    Take my advice and browse the forums here about some bad updates to Outlook Mail. I did have the HTC M8 running W10, there was even an update to W10M for the M8 even for us that were running on the insider build. All other 13 phones were on standard production builds and all 13 phones had the exact same problems, and that was struggles to open emails. My suggestion to the OP is that if you are depending on email to run your business then stick it out with the iPhone for now. W10M is still not ready for prime time. Again, please do skim the forums and you will see that I am not making this up. I was a Windows Phone/Mobile die hard. I cannot recommend anyone to use a Windows Mobile in its current state. I think it is irresponsible to even do so.
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    03-05-2017 11:15 AM
  4. Scott King2's Avatar
    Thanks that helps a lot. Yeah the passport in of the best devices ever built
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    03-05-2017 11:23 AM
  5. TgeekB's Avatar
    The fanboyism is strong here.
    Should we lie?
    No one is disbelieving you, we just don't think it's as widespread as you perceive it to be.

    Sent from my Alcatel Idol 4S
    Last edited by TgeekB; 03-05-2017 at 12:14 PM.
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    03-05-2017 11:47 AM
  6. Jaripi's Avatar
    Take my advice and browse the forums here about some bad updates to Outlook Mail. I did have the HTC M8 running W10, there was even an update to W10M for the M8 even for us that were running on the insider build. All other 13 phones were on standard production builds and all 13 phones had the exact same problems, and that was struggles to open emails. My suggestion to the OP is that if you are depending on email to run your business then stick it out with the iPhone for now. W10M is still not ready for prime time. Again, please do skim the forums and you will see that I am not making this up. I was a Windows Phone/Mobile die hard. I cannot recommend anyone to use a Windows Mobile in its current state. I think it is irresponsible to even do so.
    I have not had the such problems with my Lumia 1520 WM10 and with my current Lumia 950 XL DS. A current insider build seems to be a good one (15047), including Outlook Mail (I like that new colorful one). About browser, Edge seems to be good, even it is hard to get rid of bad name of the past. I am using Monument browser too and I like it. Well, there is always some people with good experience and some with bad experience.
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    03-05-2017 01:41 PM
  7. slivy58's Avatar
    Take my advice and browse the forums here about some bad updates to Outlook Mail. I did have the HTC M8 running W10, there was even an update to W10M for the M8 even for us that were running on the insider build. All other 13 phones were on standard production builds and all 13 phones had the exact same problems, and that was struggles to open emails. My suggestion to the OP is that if you are depending on email to run your business then stick it out with the iPhone for now. W10M is still not ready for prime time. Again, please do skim the forums and you will see that I am not making this up. I was a Windows Phone/Mobile die hard. I cannot recommend anyone to use a Windows Mobile in its current state. I think it is irresponsible to even do so.
    So just to be clear...

    * You say... "email from say UPS would force my phone to lock up". Does it ever recover or is manually powering on/off required?

    * Then... "opening some emails caused my phone to manually reboot". How often does this happen and which phone since you are only referring to "one"?

    * In the main quote above you now say all 13 phones "struggle to open emails". Does that include "all" rebooting too or does it vary from device to device?

    * As for the HTC M8, it wasn't officially destine for W10M upgrade so that's why I don't believe it is relevant here, nor is the 920.

    * Skimmed through the forums a bit with no relevance to the degree you stated, and if something did appear it was on older unsupported devices. So if I'm wrong here please post links to those posts that relate to your specific problem.
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    03-05-2017 02:47 PM
  8. FXi2's Avatar
    Ok, I may not have many occasions to speak up but I sift through over 1000 emails a week. I have had the HTC 8x, the 928 and the Icon as well as several IOS devices, phone and tablets. I have not had trouble "rendering" or EVER rebooting based on email received, so if that is a problem you've experienced, that is most assuredly not the norm. As for the OP's ability to conduct business from a phone, perhaps the occasional page rendering issues in Edge (very infrequent for me and when it does happen it's mild formatting things I can ignore), I will acknowledge he should give some thought to the phone choice. But please, I have not ever, ever had a reboot due to opening an email and I've gotten some from some pretty shady places (every business does from time to time). Now I'm also smart enough not to click on links offering "hot pics" or "you have a waiting invoice" or "fedex needs you to confirm your delivery". But the email problems have more been one of the live tile not updating or sometimes Office365 not synching on a timely basis but those problems are long gone and were short lived.

    $.10


    Take my advice and browse the forums here about some bad updates to Outlook Mail. I did have the HTC M8 running W10, there was even an update to W10M for the M8 even for us that were running on the insider build. All other 13 phones were on standard production builds and all 13 phones had the exact same problems, and that was struggles to open emails. My suggestion to the OP is that if you are depending on email to run your business then stick it out with the iPhone for now. W10M is still not ready for prime time. Again, please do skim the forums and you will see that I am not making this up. I was a Windows Phone/Mobile die hard. I cannot recommend anyone to use a Windows Mobile in its current state. I think it is irresponsible to even do so.
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    03-05-2017 08:26 PM
  9. Player Piano's Avatar
    Player, out!! I just can't grovel like this.
    03-05-2017 09:54 PM
  10. midnightfrolic's Avatar
    I've had a fairly positive experience with Windows 10 mobile and lumia 950xl. I don't use it for business. But I do rely on email a lot, even webmail. The email app has been very stable for me realistically. Notifications and SMS is quite good. I love the drop down action center notifications and replying to texts straight from there.

    But the phone itself has an inherent problem with random reboots for me personally, on production and preview builds. More so on preview builds. On my first replacement phone. First phone had faulty camera.

    If you have no issues with the app gap, it's a great platform and ecosystem to sync across all your Windows devices.

    Edit: I've used iphones since the iPhone 4 and Android since version 2.xxx. I have latest versions of all 3 platforms. I just currently like Windows 10 mobile. It's well integrated cross devices.
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    03-05-2017 11:10 PM
  11. aximtreo's Avatar
    The email app is absolutely unreliable on W10M. Some builds ago just opening an email from say UPS would force my phone to lock up, and opening some emails caused my phone to manually reboot. If you rely on email do not make the switch right now.
    I have not had any email problems on my past 950 xl or my present HP X3. If you haven't, I would use MRT to re-flash the phone with the latest release version of WM 10 and see if it happens there. I wouldn't recommend restoring but set up as a new one. A tried and true option I have used when needed.
    03-06-2017 07:12 AM
  12. HoosierDaddy's Avatar
    I have not had any email problems on my past 950 xl or my present HP X3. If you haven't, I would use MRT to re-flash the phone with the latest release version of WM 10 and see if it happens there. I wouldn't recommend restoring but set up as a new one. A tried and true option I have used when needed.
    The thing that confuses me is (s)he says an entire fleet of 640XLs used in the business have the same problem, not just one phone.

    I wouldn't totally rule out an obscure email app bug that gets triggered by something in emails.

    Not mobile, but on my office PC, Outlook 2016 (Office 365) would crash for several months just when I opened a specific type of email from AmEx. It would crash a few seconds (an eternity for a PC CPU) after opening the email. If I wanted to read it, I had to quickly click on the option to read it in a browser and close it before Outlook crashed. The problem disappeared at some point.
    Last edited by HoosierDaddy; 03-06-2017 at 08:22 AM.
    03-06-2017 07:57 AM
  13. rdubmu's Avatar
    Take my advice and browse the forums here about some bad updates to Outlook Mail. I did have the HTC M8 running W10, there was even an update to W10M for the M8 even for us that were running on the insider build. All other 13 phones were on standard production builds and all 13 phones had the exact same problems, and that was struggles to open emails. My suggestion to the OP is that if you are depending on email to run your business then stick it out with the iPhone for now. W10M is still not ready for prime time. Again, please do skim the forums and you will see that I am not making this up. I was a Windows Phone/Mobile die hard. I cannot recommend anyone to use a Windows Mobile in its current state. I think it is irresponsible to even do so.
    I use my windows phone for work, the email works just fine and I haven't experienced the issues you have. I use office 365 for work. I also have an iPhone 7 plus, and it is a much better OS with the ecosystem than windows 10 mobile. Windows 10 Mobile can be better if you need to use continuum, also the email and calendar is better on W10M than iOS. There is the Outlook App on iOS that is much better than the first party iOS mail and calendar apps. As for which device, the Lumia 950 XL is a 2 year old device, I would rather go with the HP Elite X3 instead and continuum is much with the HP dedicated apps.
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    03-06-2017 10:24 AM
  14. Scott King2's Avatar
    I used the outlook app on iOS and I had to stop as of this morning every time I tried to send an email it would send an error telling me I needed to log in in order to email although I was already logged in
    03-06-2017 12:15 PM
  15. zocster's Avatar
    I used the outlook app on iOS and I had to stop as of this morning every time I tried to send an email it would send an error telling me I needed to log in in order to email although I was already logged in
    What is wrong with the native app? I use the native with all my EAS accounts, and apps for respective, gmail, yahoo, aol and zoho etc.
    03-06-2017 01:09 PM
  16. JRDEMASKUS's Avatar
    As with the News world, so it is in the Forums.
    Beware ALTERNATIVE FACTS.
    I rarely experience any of the "Problems" that plague the device Forums.
    It seems especially true in the Windows Phone forums.
    While I had my share of "Performance" issues with the 950XL at launch, I seem to never have the "Functionality" issues other "users" complain about.
    Windows Phone is a Fanboy OS, and as such, I see a lot of Fanboy arguing and the the spread of disinformation, probably from other OS Fanboys.
    Since no OS or Device is absolutely "perfect", it is best to try it out for yourself, to see if any one in particular best meets your needs.
    A good store will let you sign in and play with their devices before you buy them. Just Factory Restore when you are done if you choose not to buy it.
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    03-07-2017 11:38 AM
  17. Scott King2's Avatar
    I don't recall the exact issues since t has been a while since I last used it but there were things the stock app couldn't do that was irritating. Perhaps I couldn't deleted an email from the pop-up notification I didn't want to have to open the app to delete emails. Petty I know
    03-07-2017 03:06 PM
  18. Scott King2's Avatar
    Getting frustrated I had another iPhone email issue today and from what I read it is fairly common. One of my email accounts the one I am using for my small business stopped sending emails. I could receive like normal but not send. After a bunch of research it seems to be fixed. I just thought from what I have heard that the iPhones os is rock solid but that is clearly not the case but not sure if the l950xl would be better or just further frustrate me.
    03-07-2017 07:47 PM
  19. Scott King2's Avatar
    By the way all of this makes me reaffirm the Blackberry passport was the best phone ever.
    03-07-2017 07:47 PM
  20. emmeborn's Avatar
    With Edge in Desktop mode I find it working really godd rendering websites. One extra thing that you do not get on other OS is Continuum. Works great docking the phone to a large screen and working with a standard PC mouse and keyboard.
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    03-13-2017 05:01 PM
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