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  1. lucaspedersoli's Avatar
    Hi guys, I was thinking on getting my hands on a L950/XL.
    yeah, I'm mad.
    Since the XL has the problematic 810 volcano processor I was wondering if the 950 was a better choice.
    lol I just miss the UI so much I just wanna see if it's good for my daily driver. I love the fact that the music player always works on my SE but god this icon based OSs are ugly (including Android) (my 830 sometimes decided not to play **** unless I rebooted)
    well, I hope you guys can give me some insight.
    Thanks in advance.

    btw I don't care about app gap :P don't care about SC, IG is there, FB too... Twitter... meh.
    Games? lol I'm fine with doodle jump, all I've ever need. So... if you are gonna give arguments leave app gap aside. TY
    02-24-2018 05:42 PM
  2. libra89's Avatar
    What is important to you in a phone? The battery life on the 950 XL might be better over the smaller 950.
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    02-24-2018 05:54 PM
  3. jirkahtc's Avatar
    "XL has the problematic 810 volcano processor"

    Has a second revision, no problems with overheating.
    fin11, aximtreo and nate0 like this.
    02-25-2018 06:50 AM
  4. dov1978's Avatar
    Had both and the XL was better by far. Better size, better battery, looks nicer, never over heated, ran smoother etc etc etc
    nate0, fin11 and libra89 like this.
    02-25-2018 07:02 AM
  5. Old_Mil's Avatar
    Do you have a friend with an android phone that will let you trst a launcher on it? That might be a good first step. The unfortunate reality is that even if you don't care about apps, terminating support for the web browser and not updating it will limit the utility of the device as a smartphone even if you don't install a single app. That should start becoming evident in about two years as some web sites won't load.
    02-25-2018 07:36 AM
  6. nate0's Avatar
    My 950 xl rarely gets hot. Sometimes while using Edge or maybe the camera or photos app under heavy use. I like the screen and sizing of text and objects on the XL better than the 950. I think if the 950 was fhd rather than qhd I'd probably have a hard time choosing between the two.

    The 950 is a lot cheaper though.

    To add to what was kind of already commented on...the OS is sound, really stable. Others may argue that one and maybe its relative to my use, but I remember all the OS causing issues and crashes we use to see on W10M. I see things from time to time that are anomalies but not detrimental, you know. I do end up unlocking all my Windows phones to edit and tweak things to my needs and wants. Even with all the reg edits and different changes I do the phone runs excellent. Battery life on the 950 xl is really good. For me in perspective, I've been off the charger for over 13 hrs and have 61% left.
    fin11 likes this.
    02-25-2018 10:21 AM
  7. Palm_forlackofchoice's Avatar
    I don't think you can go wrong with the 950xl, x3 or the idol 4s. Been using the idol for month now, first week was rough. I hard reset and has been great since.
    02-25-2018 12:10 PM
  8. rollindice's Avatar
    still using my 950 XL till now,wife with 950, go with XL ,no issues with processor, where you plan buying from Ebay? checkout reviews, there's still an awful lot around
    fin11 likes this.
    02-26-2018 02:21 AM
  9. Drael646464's Avatar
    I've never had the XL, but a 950 is my phone. I find it's battery life a tad short, it overheats when you game. But its about the right size, runs pretty smooth (now with all the updates - used to glitch occasionally, reset, but worst I get now is a very rare app freeze - just close and reopen), has a classy *** camera and has some good music apps and DAC (it can handle higher resolution music well).

    Anything bigger for me would be a pain in the neck. But no-one with an XL seems to complain. I'd say choose based on budget and the sort of screen size you want to be handling.

    For people that aren't app hungry, I don't think any functionality will be lost in the usual consumer lifespan of a phone. There's still some dev support for UWPs, and you get some downstream app updates from desktop still. Some PWA services were added to edge mobile end of last year.

    That said, nobody is really certain what kind of support WM will get, in terms of browser and app updates. For me, that's no big deal. I'm not fond of android, ios, apple or google, and the UI on WM is clean, simple, and some of the features such as handsfree texting in the car are handy AF.
    02-26-2018 02:51 AM
  10. lucaspedersoli's Avatar
    lol wat? MS is not updating Edge's compatibility?
    02-26-2018 10:50 AM
  11. lucaspedersoli's Avatar
    Thanks for the feedback guys
    02-26-2018 10:50 AM
  12. Drael646464's Avatar
    lol wat? MS is not updating Edge's compatibility?
    Mine's running 40.15254.158.0 which is a January update. There's other third party browsers which are decent enough, so far as I can tell they are maintaining updates on core apps like edge. There are cases where the UWP desktop update isn't getting downstreamed to mobile, like the new photos app (although there's a way you can still get it), because they can't be arsed optimizing it for mobile, but to me it looks like edge is being updated.

    It has some PWA services and options installed, and that's a new thing, although WM can't run them fullscreened, just within the browser, and notifications don't work, the web apps themselves still run (I checked out mobile.twitter.com the other day)

    So personally I don't see edge suddenly breaking in terms of compatibility.
    02-26-2018 02:12 PM
  13. lucaspedersoli's Avatar
    950 xl forum has more than a few overheating posts, u sure guys it's solved ? :P maybe u love the UI a little too much?
    nate0 likes this.
    02-27-2018 01:38 PM
  14. miodrage's Avatar
    950XL for 2 yrs now, it works as it should. go 4 it
    fin11 likes this.
    02-27-2018 04:32 PM
  15. nate0's Avatar
    950 xl forum has more than a few overheating posts, u sure guys it's solved ? :P maybe u love the UI a little too much?
    No. Is fine here.
    It is all dependent on the user though. I would look at it as a user by user case. Are all those recent threads and are they sure the unit is overheating.

    To me overheating means you heat the SoC up so much it shuts off and won't turn back on until it cools down, or the thing is out of control and the cooling heating dissipation in place is unable to control/contain the temperature and the unit runs hot and causes problems. I use to over heat my 1320 until shut off.

    Heat is typical on any handheld once in a while or sometimes during heavy network traffic/updates/new provisioning/first time setup etc. All devices get somewhat warm/hot/hotter depending I suppose. I have owned many different 950 XL phones for different reasons. Not one of them over heated. They got hot or warm sometimes. There use to be an issue with heating up while charging. I personally do not see that anymore since the last FW update they had back in 2017 end of 2016 I think.
    02-27-2018 07:30 PM
  16. lucaspedersoli's Avatar
    Thanks guys, when I finish gathering ma bucks I'll certainly give it a try. Btw, I use lightroom quite a bit on the SE and it's amazing for photo editing. There's nothing even close to that in w10m right? I have rawr (back from 830) but I don't remember it being even close to lightroom...
    02-27-2018 09:24 PM
  17. NightOrchid's Avatar
    lol wat? MS is not updating Edge's compatibility?
    Hang on.. wat... WP10 is still being updated.. as well as the Edge browser... Wheres the source of this "MS stopping Edge compatibility on WP10"?

    To answer the question which Im sure everyone on here is sick of repeating.. .. Yes, WP 8.1 IS DEAD.. WP10M is Alive and Kicking...

    If you want the BEST camera on ANY smartphone.. even in 2018... and I mean THE BEST.. you cant go wrong with either 950 or the XL... the 950 / XL camera walks all over anything that Samsung or Huawei are doing, which is why the Android bunch keep saying WP is dead, because they know the camera, speed and UI is better than Anything google can do, They just wont admit it

    IMO, The only downside with the XL is the Speaker is tinney.. Its clear and Really loud, just dont expect any rich sound.. theres No Bass and No middle, its almost on par with the S7 Edge and S8 , so IMO, its OK, just dont use the loudspeaker for serious music listening :)

    The XL had a rocky start and its been bashed over the las t year or so from both Reviewers and Android and Apple fans, but its still going strong.. in fact.. Alcatel only released the Idol 4S Windows 10 phone a year ago... so WP10M is still going and still being supported.. so dont worry..

    Buy your XL and enjoy it..
    Last edited by NightOrchid; 02-28-2018 at 01:43 PM.
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    02-28-2018 11:38 AM
  18. seventeenapg's Avatar
    Hi guys, I was thinking on getting my hands on a L950/XL.
    yeah, I'm mad.
    Since the XL has the problematic 810 volcano processor I was wondering if the 950 was a better choice.
    lol I just miss the UI so much I just wanna see if it's good for my daily driver. I love the fact that the music player always works on my SE but god this icon based OSs are ugly (including Android) (my 830 sometimes decided not to play **** unless I rebooted)
    well, I hope you guys can give me some insight.
    Thanks in advance.

    btw I don't care about app gap :P don't care about SC, IG is there, FB too... Twitter... meh.
    Games? lol I'm fine with doodle jump, all I've ever need. So... if you are gonna give arguments leave app gap aside. TY
    You are NOT mad!

    Sent from mTalk
    02-28-2018 01:42 PM
  19. seventeenapg's Avatar
    Hang on.. wat... WP10 is still being updated.. as well as the Edge browser... Wheres the source of this "MS stopping Edge compatibility on WP10"?

    To answer the question which Im sure everyone on here is sick of repeating.. .. Yes, WP 8.1 IS DEAD.. WP10M is Alive and Kicking...

    If you want the BEST camera on ANY smartphone.. even in 2018... and I mean THE BEST.. you cant go wrong with either 950 or the XL... the 950 / XL camera walks all over anything that Samsung or Huawei are doing, which is why the Android bunch keep saying WP is dead, because they know the camera, speed and UI is better than Anything google can do, They just wont admit it

    IMO, The only downside with the XL is the Speaker is tinney.. Its clear and Really loud, just dont expect any rich sound.. theres No Bass and No middle, its almost on par with the S7 Edge and S8 , so IMO, its OK, just dont use the loudspeaker for serious music listening :)

    The XL had a rocky start and its been bashed over the las t year or so from both Reviewers and Android and Apple fans, but its still going strong.. in fact.. Alcatel only released the Idol 4S Windows 10 phone a year ago... so WP10M is still going and still being supported.. so dont worry..

    Buy your XL and enjoy it..

    Go to settings and extras. In there you can use the equalizer to give the rear Lumia speaker more depth. At least I can on my L950.

    Sent from mTalk
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    02-28-2018 01:44 PM
  20. NightOrchid's Avatar
    Go to settings and extras. In there you can use the equalizer to give the rear Lumia speaker more depth. At least I can on my L950.

    Sent from mTalk
    Really... I only thought the EQ was for Headphone use.. Ill give that a try on my XL.. and let you know..

    Thanks for the heads up
    02-28-2018 02:38 PM
  21. NightOrchid's Avatar
    btw I don't care about app gap :P don't care about SC, IG is there, FB too... Twitter... meh.
    Games? lol I'm fine with doodle jump, all I've ever need. So... if you are gonna give arguments leave app gap aside. TY

    Do you know.. believe it or not.. one of the main reasons everyone started bashing WP and wouldnt buy one is because they couldnt get Angry Birds or Candy Crush on a Lumia.. Oh yes.. thats actually true :)

    It was a rough time for WP.. I even heard quite a few store assistants bashing it over the Galaxy S5 and LG G4.. and IMO, WP never quite recovered from that..

    Shame really ow silly and easily led by others some people can be
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    02-28-2018 02:50 PM
  22. midnightfrolic's Avatar
    waiting on Andromeda and fodables.
    02-28-2018 06:31 PM
  23. nate0's Avatar
    Do you know.. believe it or not.. one of the main reasons everyone started bashing WP and wouldnt buy one is because they couldnt get Angry Birds or Candy Crush on a Lumia.. Oh yes.. thats actually true :)

    It was a rough time for WP.. I even heard quite a few store assistants bashing it over the Galaxy S5 and LG G4.. and IMO, WP never quite recovered from that..

    Shame really ow silly and easily led by others some people can be
    It is a shame. In a way we feel we are entitled to such things as "Angry Birds" but why? Really? Because everyone else has it? But really why, why as an indvidual do we want self to be fulfilled with the Angry Birds, insta twitter, face stories and the like? Maybe it is our human nature and partly we like to be spoiled or have it our way right away in these times. Its self fufilling at touch of a finger. Stimulation as quick as you can lift the phone to your face I guess. No matter how you look at it. But we forget how these tools of entertainment are also tools to connect us everywhere. Maybe it is the younger generation that sees them mostly as forms of entertainment and media consumption..We are all guilty of that frame of mind in one way or another. It is just the times we live in. But yes still a shame at times too that one would be bashing something cuz Angry birds is unavailable. That, I don't get lol!
    02-28-2018 07:18 PM
  24. NightOrchid's Avatar
    It is a shame. In a way we feel we are entitled to such things as "Angry Birds" but why? Really? Because everyone else has it? But really why, why as an indvidual do we want self to be fulfilled with the Angry Birds, insta twitter, face stories and the like? Maybe it is our human nature and partly we like to be spoiled or have it our way right away in these times. Its self fufilling at touch of a finger. Stimulation as quick as you can lift the phone to your face I guess. No matter how you look at it. But we forget how these tools of entertainment are also tools to connect us everywhere. Maybe it is the younger generation that sees them mostly as forms of entertainment and media consumption..We are all guilty of that frame of mind in one way or another. It is just the times we live in. But yes still a shame at times too that one would be bashing something cuz Angry birds is unavailable. That, I don't get lol!

    I hear you friend... I mean,, Candy Crush, seriously.. of all the pieces of trash to damage a fantastic device.. it would be a silly childish game wouldnt it.., but because of this.. Banking apps, eBay, sporting apps.. have all dwindled and ditched WP support.. Most of them, such as eBay, Banks, STRAVA..etc can be accessed through the web, but, apart from FitBit.. sports and smart watch apps like Garmin and POLAR have all gone sadly..

    Your right.. people just want it all put in front of them.. no effort and even though WP IU is one of the most powerful.. It does require some tinkering to get it the way you like it .. and some people just cant be bothered to do that...

    99% of people who have a Samsung or an iPhone still have those god awful Default out ofthe Box Ringtones because they cant be bothered to change it up abit.. Its a sad lazy world we live in
    02-28-2018 08:08 PM
  25. lucaspedersoli's Avatar
    Hey I've been looking at xposed framework, there's **** ton of modules, do you guys think this low level of customization could let us mod our way to a WP themed Android?
    Making pngs for WP is npt that hard, and there's already a ton of stuff available out there. We should go through the endless pages of modules and see what we can use. And of course if someome has deeper knowledge of how xposed works the comunity could have their own specific WP theme oriented modules.
    It might be time to start a new thread.
    I started thinking of this because the life span of a 950 is gonna be hell short... I'd like to pick a phone that can lool and work how I want and be able to keep it at least for three years. I think MS is going to ditch the 950 way sooner than that, and even if they don't Whatsapp might, to pick an example, and the core apps are not negotiable.
    03-05-2018 01:53 AM
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