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  1. Skyway's Avatar
    Definitely no liquid cooling on the 950.

    https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repor..._id=PYARM-1105
    Mind to explain better why you say there isn't liquid cooling in the 950?
    Click on the link he provided and then click on Internal Photos. These are FCC pictures that show the device in various states of disassembly. I don't see a heat pipe in there.
    11-19-2015 11:52 PM
  2. PepperdotNet's Avatar
    Does Outlook have its own account sign-in like Win 10 on my Surface or did they keep the device-centric sign-in through the universal account setup? My company is blocking my 640 XL with the newest fast insider build due to the device-centric sign-in. Outlook works on Android and iOS but blocked on the 640XL.

    Would love to know if I need to cancel my 950XL order. Thanks.
    Outlook can connect to many different types of mail server, and the MS account you use for the store and other things on the phone doesn't have to be one of them. I'm not sure what you mean when you say they are blocking the device-centric signin?
    11-20-2015 12:07 AM
  3. ScubaDog's Avatar
    I love saying "I told you so". Nobody believed me when I insisted these are NOT flagships.
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    11-20-2015 12:31 AM
  4. tangledW's Avatar
    I love saying "I told you so". Nobody believed me when I insisted these are NOT flagships.
    95%+ of the issues here app/OS related.
    11-20-2015 12:49 AM
  5. oldpueblo's Avatar
    So I guess all the other previous Galaxy flagship phones weren't flagships either? News flash, these are flagships and if you skip them waiting for other flaghips then those may never come because of poor 950 sales..
    11-20-2015 01:33 AM
  6. Visa Declined's Avatar
    I insisted these are NOT flagships.
    These are most definitely Microsoft's flagship devices. Any product that is "the best" thing a company makes, is a flagship.
    Last edited by RumoredNow; 11-20-2015 at 01:51 AM. Reason: corrected quote to reflect deletion of useless duplicate
    oldpueblo, Skyway, libra89 and 1 others like this.
    11-20-2015 01:46 AM
  7. BobLobIaw's Avatar
    I love saying "I told you so". Nobody believed me when I insisted these are NOT flagships.
    Did you have any other quick impressions from your new phone?
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    11-20-2015 01:54 AM
  8. BobLobIaw's Avatar
    Is the 950 sturdy enough to go naked or does it need a case?
    11-20-2015 01:55 AM
  9. mariusmuntean's Avatar
    I love saying "I told you so". Nobody believed me when I insisted these are NOT flagships.
    I have stated the same but everyone made me a troll, mad man etc etc. I've read all the pages in this thread and from the issues people have encountered, I would not buy this as it is now. The OS is still BETA so spending money on a new phone with a broken OS is not ok. Second, the fact that the phone is getting so warm in basic tasks is not good. Third, windows hello is pretty useless as I've said!! All fanboys were yelling to me that it would be much better than a touch ID. I am asking them now! How is it better?? By the fact that you have to stare a few inches of the phone to make it work?? you call this better?
    I've seen reports from other phones that needed freq. charges after you start setting in it for the first time, but I've read NONE saying that they needed 3 charges in one day!

    Conclusion: I would really want to get this, mainly for the camera, but as it is now, the OS is a major drawback, still unacceptable low quality in it. As for the hardware, I'll wait to see how many return their phones because of HW problems, as most of the Lumia devices had at launch date.
    I'll get one maybe in 5 or 6 months when MS, maybe, will wake up and fix windows 10 to be a reliable mobile OS, not a joke.
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    11-20-2015 02:12 AM
  10. jlabelle's Avatar
    The QC on this device appears fine, but the body is unquestionably made of much cheaper materials than, say, the iPhone 6S (the latter also costs significantly more, so there you go).
    Where did you see that the 6S costs more ? I think you are mixing sales price with cost.
    The BOM of the 6S is 245$. For instance, another flagship like the Samsung S6 is ... 278$, significantly costlier.

    The cost of manufacturing of the iPhones has always been in line or cheaper than the same generation flagships and I expect a Lumia 950 BOM to be pretty much on par or above the iPhone as well.
    This is just that Apple prices are just IN-SA-NE-LY higher than any other comparable hardware. Seems to make an impact on some people when we read this comment that you believe price = cost... So probably a good tactic from Apple.
    11-20-2015 03:44 AM
  11. jlabelle's Avatar
    Splitting hairs now. RTM is not the right term and I used it improperly.

    True, but missing VVM and it becoming a nag screen, double tap to wake is missing, and other annoyances is a little much (alerts not making it to Band 1st Gen, live tiles not updating, app crashing). It feels less than half baked and will not help the reputation of Windows Mobile now that these flagships have been released.
    I do not want to make any generalization but this is funny calling the lack of double-tap to wake up a "half-backed" product when iPhone ... does not have those functionalities. Are iPhones half-backed ?
    Also Visual Voice Mail is not available for double-SIM devices. Do you have a single SIM phone ?


    For the rest, I cannot comment specifically on the 950 but Build 10586 on my work 640 has been awesome, no problem with Live Tiles or others so let's see.
    I still think that you need to let the phone does it stuff the 1st hours of usage before taking any conclusion on speed, hiccups or battery life.
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    11-20-2015 04:05 AM
  12. Chrishan Fernando's Avatar
    Its time already !!!
    11-20-2015 04:19 AM
  13. emma0's Avatar
    Quick question. Those having double tap issues, have you tried disabling windows hello first? Maybe it can't be triggered with double tap so gets disabled
    could it be? it makes a lot of sense if double tap isn't there because of an active windows hello. double tap should be there though if you only set the lockscreen to accept pin/nothing. a simple settings app update will fix this if it was originally omitted.
    11-20-2015 06:12 AM
  14. Spicymikey's Avatar
    Ordered mine from AT&T and got it the next day (late yesterday). Here's my take after a couple hours

    The good:
    - The camera is awesome. Its the best PAS camera I've ever owned. Even better than my 1020. Sure the 1020 could do higher resolution, but this phone produces a better pic without any post processing. The pic delivered to your photo folder is ready to go and share. Low light sensitivity is noticeably better. Indoor photos without flash look great unlike the 1020
    - It's light and thin
    - screen is very good as expected
    - screen based nav buttons work fine. No issues to complain about. It's just a non issue.

    The bad:
    - Its just running Build 586 which we know well. No magic happened. It has all the flaws we are aware of, but it does perform fast with the new hardware. That's a problem but I realize they had no choice. The os team missed the mark. Someone really need to be fired for this
    - The screen has a serious issue. It goes unresponsive at times. Sometimes for a second or more. Also scrolling will stutter because of this. Really needs to be fixed immediately .
    - Hello is embarrassingly flawed. Should have been disabled and unavailable until it was done. The feature is always on even when in lock mode on my charger. So when laying in bed with it on a stand facing me, it keeps blooping and beeping, asking me to "move closer". It also drains the battery FAST. I've already disabled it
    libra89, illidanx, Joe920 and 1 others like this.
    11-20-2015 06:54 AM
  15. Charles Hinkle's Avatar
    I've had mine for two days. My only complaint is no tap to wake, maybe it'll come in an update? Camera, UI, battery life, everything else is very good. I'm very happy!
    gfouts15, libra89, KimRM and 2 others like this.
    11-20-2015 07:32 AM
  16. Dennis Bakker's Avatar
    What does the box and or documentation say about Gorilla Glass?

    The microsoft.com website says GG3 and the microsoftstore.com website says GG4...
    11-20-2015 07:57 AM
  17. kjmcintosh's Avatar
    I have stated the same but everyone made me a troll, mad man etc etc. I've read all the pages in this thread and from the issues people have encountered, I would not buy this as it is now. The OS is still BETA so spending money on a new phone with a broken OS is not ok. Second, the fact that the phone is getting so warm in basic tasks is not good. Third, windows hello is pretty useless as I've said!! All fanboys were yelling to me that it would be much better than a touch ID. I am asking them now! How is it better?? By the fact that you have to stare a few inches of the phone to make it work?? you call this better?
    I've seen reports from other phones that needed freq. charges after you start setting in it for the first time, but I've read NONE saying that they needed 3 charges in one day!

    Conclusion: I would really want to get this, mainly for the camera, but as it is now, the OS is a major drawback, still unacceptable low quality in it. As for the hardware, I'll wait to see how many return their phones because of HW problems, as most of the Lumia devices had at launch date.
    I'll get one maybe in 5 or 6 months when MS, maybe, will wake up and fix windows 10 to be a reliable mobile OS, not a joke.





    I would try it yourself before you make any statements, I have tried it and the window hello did not need to be in front of my face to unlock.
    It's quite simple, buy one if you are not happy, exercise your consumer rights and return it. Then come on the forms and talk facts and not what you have read in some other post or what you think or feel something is.
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    11-20-2015 08:05 AM
  18. Dan TheMan86's Avatar
    - Hello is embarrassingly flawed. Should have been disabled and unavailable until it was done. The feature is always on even when in lock mode on my charger. So when laying in bed with it on a stand facing me, it keeps blooping and beeping, asking me to "move closer". It also drains the battery FAST. I've already disabled it
    Damn...that is sad :(
    11-20-2015 08:06 AM
  19. Shane_B's Avatar
    I've never owned a Windows phone before but I'm really interested in this phone... Or I was.


    Is it normal for Microsoft to release phones so broken? I'm kind of in shock how they could sell this to the general public....
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    11-20-2015 08:31 AM
  20. Dan TheMan86's Avatar
    I doubt you're going to get anywhere NEAR 2 days. From what I've seen so far, a day with moderate usage looks about right... but problem is the battery on my iPhone was so bad, I've gotten used to plugging my phone in everywhere so I'm currently doing the same with the L950.

    I'll be out and about with my friends for about 8 hours tonight and I'm sure it will see some decent usage as I show it off, so we'll see how it goes.
    A phone with a 3000mah batter should last longer than a day. The Droid Maxx phones have 3000mah batteries and last like 3 days!! This is madness!!
    11-20-2015 08:31 AM
  21. gfouts15's Avatar
    I would say that there are issues with the OS and apps of course. In the past two days of playing non-stop with my setup on the 950, I have been receiving a ton of app updates including the core apps like Outlook, Store, Calendar, and Office to name a few. It seems they are busy updating apps as fast as they can. I have good battery life now that the updates seemed to have slowed down. Wireless charging is much faster than my old 920. The only thing remaining as an irritant is that I have two apps that won't update and throw unknown errors: Lumia Help+Tips and Advanced info. I wonder if ATT broke those with their software installs.
    11-20-2015 08:32 AM
  22. Achike Da's Avatar
    I would try it yourself before you make any statements, I have tried it and the window hello did not need to be in front of my face to unlock.
    It's quite simple, buy one if you are not happy, exercise your consumer rights and return it. Then come on the forms and talk facts and not what you have read in some other post or what you think or feel something is.
    My point exactly. A coupla people here are making comments without actually owning and using it. I remember when the 1st iPhone 5 were received, because they were much slimmer and lighter than the iPhone 4S, the web was filled with how 'flimsy' the quality was. Same feeling with this L950. Also, its removable back (which gives the illusion of flimsiness) is almost the same comment that has been received from any removable backed Samsung flagship released over the years. Single bodied (non-removable back) phones always seem more solid. Also, current feedback on the ipad pro that's just released shows tons of people are having their devices freeze after charging. it's so bad that Apple customer service recommends doing a hard/soft reset which still doesn't fix it. My point? newly released devices will display software glitches and omissions especially in the hands of the very 1st few who buy it. (except it's an analog microwave :-) ). Now back to the star of the moment, the L950. It's a great phone. finally a slim light phone we've been asking for with removable back .. And as for windows hello (iris scanner), run the setup several times (5 times maybe), it improves recognition each time. Hope this helps folks ;-)
    11-20-2015 08:33 AM
  23. KimRM's Avatar
    I've never owned a Windows phone before but I'm really interested in this phone... Or I was.


    Is it normal for Microsoft to release phones so broken? I'm kind of in shock how they could sell this to the general public....
    I don't think it's "broken" like the impression you get from some people on this forum. If you haven't tried the device for your-self yet you shouldn't be in shock over anything. Just try it out and then make your own mind. The majority of people that have bought this phone are happy with it.
    11-20-2015 08:37 AM
  24. Great deal's Avatar
    In the grand scheme of things these issues are to be expected. Its a brand new OS tied to Windows 10. The goal is to make it easy for developers to make an app once and port everywhere. MS have the Surface line, the phones will come, they HAD to release something and these are the devices ready for shipping before xmas. Its also a testbed for the new OS. Imagine the failure of Surface branded phones with a buggy OS. You guys are the brave souls biting the bullet, also eating the expected pain. For those not expecting any pain in this transitional period then its difficult to not say its your own fault for not seeing the bigger picture. Patience (I lack it sometimes) is needed for W10 as its very early days still, I luved getting the lates and greates, having a 920 and 1020 since release date and using W10 on them has taught me patience. I cant wait for Microsofts own devices released on a stable OS.
    11-20-2015 08:51 AM
  25. Shane_B's Avatar
    I don't think it's "broken" like the impression you get from some people on this forum. If you haven't tried the device for your-self yet you shouldn't be in shock over anything. Just try it out and then make your own mind. The majority of people that have bought this phone are happy with it.
    Well I'll be watching this forum like a hawk today. It's down to this phone and the LG v10 for me. Going to the store after work to take the plunge on something.
    11-20-2015 08:52 AM
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