12-03-2015 03:04 PM
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  1. sloppy standard's Avatar
    Hello 950 users, I'm wondering how the Maps apps are on this phone? Is HERE Maps not included? My understanding is W10M has merged the MS and HERE maps into one? If so, does the new Maps have the same great features that the HERE suite had, like transit, voice guided navigation, downloadable maps, tap to show POI, tap to show subway lines, etc?

    Thanks in advance for any info; as most of you know, HERE Maps worked up to certain builds (in my case, build 10586 on my Lumia 930) and the MS Maps, IMO, simply sucks. So if HERE is gone in W10M, so am I, unless MS Maps is really a suitable replacement.
    11-29-2015 05:39 AM
  2. rjl2001's Avatar
    Phone only comes with 'Maps', couldn't find any Here Maps or anything.

    I couldn't find any separate layer for transit maps or separate app, only thing I see is when you go to the directions screen you can choose car, bus, or walking. So if you type in directions I'm guessing that choosing 'bus' will give some transit options or directions.

    The voice guided directions are actually really great, I like the layout better than before I think, and they kept the speed limit indicator. My favorite part is it now puts exit numbers on the display when driving, whereas before it would say it once during the voice prompt but wouldn't textually depict it on the screen.

    I did see options for downloading maps but haven't used that feature yet.

    I couldn't get it to tap a POI and bring it up, super annoying actually. POI's show up automatically on the map, but you can't select one to bring up its information. It will just let you long press on the map, but will only bring up the address (and gps coordinates) or to pin that spot, nothing about the POI. I did notice it has the little blue symbols for bus stops and train stations at least on the map, but like other POI's no way to select it.

    Everyday I'm finding more things that my 950/W10 won't do that my Lumia 1020 does, very frustrating. I travel all year long in different cities every week, and the transit maps with HERE Maps are great. I was hoping it would be improved with W10, not gone altogether.
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    11-29-2015 07:25 PM
  3. TexasLabRat's Avatar
    In theory HERE apps will be available "Real Soon Now (tm)". So at that point at least you'll have a choice.
    11-29-2015 08:15 PM
  4. Elfonzerio's Avatar
    You can download maps. Just dig into the map setting and you'll find it
    11-29-2015 10:43 PM
  5. rider2040's Avatar
    I find the Maps app on WM10 to be far superior to any option that we've had on Windows Phone before. I especially like that it syncs with the Maps app on W10 so I can search for something on my laptop or tablet and then pull up the directions on my phone.

    The new voice navigation is great. We now get to choose from multiple routes. Transit info is available in the app. I don't need three different apps anymore (Here Maps, Here Drive, Here Transit) everything is now in the Maps app.
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    11-29-2015 11:02 PM
  6. sloppy standard's Avatar
    Thanks everyone, very informative remarks! I'm wondering if MS is aware of many urban users they have, and how often we commute by public transit. HERE had it down. Sure, the features could've been implemented into one single map, but at least the features were there. With HERE, when tapping on a bus stop, the live time table would pop up. Now you can't even tap at all? With HERE you could long press and nearby POIs would appear, with all their relevant data and online reviews.....

    It's clear HERE isn't coming back to W10M, that "coming soon" things has been like that since September.....
    Can you tell I'm bummed? lol
    11-29-2015 11:48 PM
  7. dfaris's Avatar
    Waze seems to work on the 950
    11-30-2015 07:32 AM
  8. Comatose11's Avatar
    Waze seems to work on the 950
    How well does Waze work? Also, does Waze on W10M compare to Google Maps?

    Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
    11-30-2015 10:44 AM
  9. EMitchell's Avatar
    The one feature from Here that is missing from MS Maps that I wish was there is non-English navigation. I had my navigation set to another language with Here, don't see any way to do it with MS Maps.
    11-30-2015 01:05 PM
  10. ashram's Avatar
    Here does seem integrated into the maps app, or at least the maps are still provided by Here.... (load up maps, settings and scroll to the bottom, terms of use and privacy statement from Here)
    11-30-2015 01:12 PM
  11. YKinase's Avatar
    Waze crashed the first three times I started it on my Lumia 950. I had this problem with WM10 on Lumia 1020 so I persevered. After the third start, it downloaded languages and then works. The problem is Waze hasn't been updated and while functional, lacks the polish of the current iPhone/Android versions. The biggest problem I had on my 1020 was screen burn-in. I commute about 2h/day and after two years, I have the Waze screen burned into my phone and I want to avoid contaminating the beautiful Lumia 950 display but I've not found anything comparable to Waze for optimal real-time route guidance. If anyone else has found something comparable, shout it out!
    11-30-2015 01:51 PM
  12. dfaris's Avatar
    Waze works well for me so far. I had to make sure the languages were downloaded but other then that it seems to work. I'm sure it is not updated like the phone OS's but I dont use apple or android so I can't tell the difference.
    11-30-2015 02:30 PM
  13. uselessrobot's Avatar
    The redesign isn't too bad, but the annoying thing for me is that it forgets my view and settings.

    In WP8 every time I'd open the app it would display the map exactly where I left it with traffic on. I'd pretty much have to restart the phone for it to forget those settings. In Windows 10, it almost always resets and zooms to my current location and deactivates traffic. Not the end of the world, but definitely a nuisance.
    11-30-2015 03:46 PM
  14. phelme's Avatar
    Sygic for me is running poorly on my 950 XL. lots of pauses between position updates, basically unusable. :( (it runs great on my 1520 with 8.1)

    I'll be trying the Windows Universal app beta version later today. I'm hoping there are GPS API changes or something specific to WM 10 addressed there that cause the current version to behave so erratically.

    Maps runs with no issues.
    11-30-2015 04:19 PM
  15. Jan777's Avatar
    No Here maps, drive or transit. In the built in maps app, at least in Finland, all the roads are gone from the map, and have been since a week ago at least, only road names on white and the tiny pedestrian roads show. The built in transit functionality is a joke. If your route involves switching to another bus line it will suggest routes where you arrive at your switch stop at the same time as the next bus leaves, leaving absolutely no margin. I have never seen such an incompetent transit app before, competely disconnected with reality. Also no way of seeing nearby stops, or look for a specific bus or bus stop timetable. People thougt that apple maps was a disaster when they disconnected from google, but this is just as bad or worse. If you need a good transit app, then lumia is definately no longer a viable choice.
    11-30-2015 04:23 PM
  16. sloppy standard's Avatar
    ....The built in transit functionality is a joke...
    Yep, this is what I was afraid of. The fact that HERE is not available in the Store, that we see "(tm) HERE maps, Windows Maps" in the About of the new Maps app, that HERE has been saying sinse September "coming soon! We're working on it!"...all those signs lead me to think the new Maps is D.O.A. for public transit users.

    I'm not intending to American bash here (hey, I'm an American living in Paris, I get that enough already!) but I think MS doesn't "get" the need for baked-in public transit functionality like Nokia did. It's like "yeah, sure, I guess we should put the subway stops on there" then the engineers hop in their cars and drive home.
    11-30-2015 04:47 PM
  17. myoujin's Avatar
    How to sync my favorites in here map to windows map?
    11-30-2015 08:27 PM
  18. astondg's Avatar
    People thougt that apple maps was a disaster when they disconnected from google, but this is just as bad or worse. If you need a good transit app, then lumia is definately no longer a viable choice.
    That seems a bit of an exaggeration given that Apple Maps only just got transit recently and then it's only in select countries. I can't get it at all here in Australia.

    I was a regular Here Transit user and when I switched to the Windows 10 Mobile preview I started using the built in maps instead and so far I haven't missed anything. In fact there's things in maps I like better, in particular it gives more detailed information about your stop (both embarking and disembarking) and integrates with Cortana.

    I haven't had to switch transit services yet (i.e. two buses or a bus and then a train) but Here Transit wasn't always perfect with that for me either, I often ignored the first connection option knowing that I wouldn't get there in time.

    The lack of nearby transit stops/routes is a big downside, but Bing Maps Preview on the web has this so hopefully it comes to the maps app.
    11-30-2015 11:08 PM
  19. Paolo Ferrazza's Avatar
    Maps uses Here data for most part and I find it great.

    I can also suggest MapFactor which was great on android and is pretty good on windows too while bad-looking :)
    12-01-2015 04:57 AM
  20. William Sanderson's Avatar
    Hello 950 users, I'm wondering how the Maps apps are on this phone? Is HERE Maps not included? My understanding is W10M has merged the MS and HERE maps into one? If so, does the new Maps have the same great features that the HERE suite had, like transit, voice guided navigation, downloadable maps, tap to show POI, tap to show subway lines, etc?

    Thanks in advance for any info; as most of you know, HERE Maps worked up to certain builds (in my case, build 10586 on my Lumia 930) and the MS Maps, IMO, simply sucks. So if HERE is gone in W10M, so am I, unless MS Maps is really a suitable replacement.
    There has been an update to the Maps app and it has replaced the Here Maps app. It works very well as I have used it for two trips lately and has been flawless. The voice navigation works with the Maps app as it did with the Here Drive app. It's nice to have one Map app that takes care of both driving and general map query in one. Cortana has been integrated with the new Map as well.
    12-01-2015 11:05 AM
  21. sloppy standard's Avatar
    Well, I tried Preview build 10586 yet again on my Lumia 930, and immediately went to Store to stop HERE from updating, because once it updates it no longer works. So I have HERE Maps and Transit working side by side with Windows Maps, and I gotta say, HERE makes much more sense, at least here in Paris.
    Windows Maps still is completely static, in that tapping on any POI does nothing, I may as well as being looking at a PDF of a detailed and inaccurate map of Paris.
    Inaccurate, because the first thing I see near my house on Maps is that there's an "Air and Space Museum" smack in the middle of Pere Lachaise cemetery, lol! Somebody else here compared Windows Maps to the first iteration of Apple Maps, and that's pretty dead-on.
    HERE Maps correctly does NOT show that museum

    The next thing I did was pin a place just down the road from me, and used the Public Transit choice in Windows Maps to get there. They should either recommend the bus, which is direct and only two stops, or walking, which is 10 minutes.
    Haha, they said to walk to the pinned location, take the metro one stop, take the metro BACK one stop (putting me back where I was to get on the metro!) and then walk back to the pinned location, taking 27 minutes in all. WTF???
    HERE Transit correctly says to walk 2 minutes to the bus stop, catch the bus, get off, walk 2 minutes, putting it 6 minutes in total, which is about right.
    12-03-2015 05:27 AM
  22. MikeJezZ's Avatar
    I would suggest not using your Lumia 950 as a GPS device, cus the Maps UI will burn into the display overtime.
    12-03-2015 05:36 AM
  23. Blashkyrk's Avatar
    I would suggest not using your Lumia 950 as a GPS device, cus the Maps UI will burn into the display overtime.
    To balance out our local AMOLED basher... ;-)
    I have used both my Lumia 1020 (AMOLED) and my old Samsung Galaxy S2 (AMOLED) as GPS devices in my car without any form of burn in issues. I'm not saying that burn in cannot occur but I have not seen it on any of my devices that have had AMOLED displays. In fact I have not seen such a thing ever occur in real life. In old CRT's yes but not in AMOLED displays on phones or tablets.

    Another thing though is that when using phones as GPS-devices they usually need to be constantly connected to a power source to not drain the battery completely. This creates heat. Keeping the screen on for perhaps several hours also creates heat. And on top of that running a GPS-software with background downloads will create even more heat. Heat is not something modern battery's like. I'm pretty sure I fried at least one battery in my old S2 this way.
    12-03-2015 06:19 AM
  24. MikeJezZ's Avatar
    To balance out our local AMOLED basher... ;-)
    I have used both my Lumia 1020 (AMOLED) and my old Samsung Galaxy S2 (AMOLED) as GPS devices in my car without any form of burn in issues. I'm not saying that burn in cannot occur but I have not seen it on any of my devices that have had AMOLED displays. In fact I have not seen such a thing ever occur in real life. In old CRT's yes but not in AMOLED displays on phones or tablets.

    Another thing though is that when using phones as GPS-devices they usually need to be constantly connected to a power source to not drain the battery completely. This creates heat. Keeping the screen on for perhaps several hours also creates heat. And on top of that running a GPS-software with background downloads will create even more heat. Heat is not something modern battery's like. I'm pretty sure I fried at least one battery in my old S2 this way.
    Yeah, I'm kinda embarrased that I have become that, I do actually realise that lol :P

    Do you have brightness on low? Do you ever play on your phone or have any static images on it?
    12-03-2015 06:41 AM
  25. Blashkyrk's Avatar
    Yeah, I'm kinda embarrased that I have become that, I do actually realise that lol :P

    Do you have brightness on low? Do you ever play on your phone or have any static images on it?
    lol at least you take it like a man :D
    Don't play much but use it as an GPS quite often, at least on my 1020. Just got my 950 like two hours ago so that one is still a virgin ;)
    12-03-2015 11:27 AM
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