11-11-2017 06:15 AM
83 1234
tools
  1. Boris NevermorE's Avatar
    Lol dov1978, you're stuck bro, :)
    Dunno, my Lumia 950 works perfectly (knock on wood), no issues whatsoever. No freezing, No call drops, No overheating, etc. I guess this phone was made for someone special and somehow went into sales and i got it, lol I can't explain it otherwise.
    About your strange relationship with windows phones, i can say, Once you got into live tiles, you will always come back to them, you'll start hating static icons on iPhone and Android. :)
    dov1978 likes this.
    06-10-2017 04:08 AM
  2. Boris NevermorE's Avatar
    Lol dov1978, you're stuck bro, :)
    Dunno, my Lumia 950 works perfectly (knock on wood), no issues whatsoever. No freezing, No call drops, No overheating, etc. I guess this phone was made for someone special and somehow went into sales and i got it, lol I can't explain it otherwise.
    About your strange relationship with windows phones, i can say, Once you got into live tiles, you will always come back to them, you'll start hating static icons on iPhone and Android. :)
    06-10-2017 04:08 AM
  3. HerronScott's Avatar
    sd4f I just upgraded from a L920 to a L950, picked up a brand new one quite cheaply.
    After 4 and a half years of the L920, I can still say that's the best phone I've ever had!
    So I'm about to do the same. I've had a 920 for about the same amount of time (through work) and found out they could upgrade me to a 950 for $29.99 (only issue is it's only available in white from AT&T now!).

    One question, did you restore your backup/settings from your 920 and how did that go?

    Scott
    06-10-2017 11:19 AM
  4. chefdave@chefdave.com's Avatar
    Since my Icon on wp10 got totally bricked by MS update recently, I'm left with my trusty Icon on 8.1, which isn't a bad thing, but I really miss 10. I found a 950xl on Ebay, it should be here Tuesday. For a hot minute I thought about the new HTC, but painfully remembered they don't really update their phones. So I choose to remain with WP. Hoping this will tie me over till the next big MS phone comes along. I've been reading this forum lately and hope I get a good one! I was smart enuf to get the square trade warranty. I'm even going to give Mint sim a chance, I've been a Verizon customer for a very long time, hoping I'll be happy with Mint
    06-11-2017 09:26 AM
  5. SirDubbleB's Avatar
    @Boris NevermorE
    Hello man, we're here to share experiences.. I shared mine and you did the same and I'm glad you did. Maybe I got a faulty one but I'm not sure. I bought it brand new from a retailer with a one year MS store warranty for a good deal 170$, at the MS Store here in Morocco the single sim version costs around 300 USD. Maybe there was something with the hardware, I didn't soft or hard reset the device but tbh I was pissed because none of these problems happened when I fist bought my L930, everything was buttery smooth.. And it was running WP 8.1 Cyan. When I got the last one a couple of days ago, it was the very same experience, I run a few updates and got it to the 'Lumia Denim' firmware and I restored everything even my screen layout, start screen and lockscreen wallpapers.. You are right abt the restore settings on W10M, you can't get your apps since it's not the same version of Windows. But I don't see why my contacts took an eternity to sync. To get back to the problems I stated on my full impressions, maybe you were blessed with a gem, a Lumia 950 problems free, or it's a problem of variants. Mine is an african variant (Morocco).. What is yours?
    But to backup what I said, I've read many threads reporting the same problems and it goes beyong to call drops. You are a lucky man bro hahaha...
    @Drael646464
    Dude, I ran every single update out there.. gone through 3 updates until I reached the Creators one and I kept checking till no more updates were available. So it is the CU, I am sure abt it. It could be a faulty hardware, but I said earlier, the problems I encountered were listed by other people as well. So I don't think all of us got a faulty hardware/software L950. About MS dropping skype, have a look at this tweet:

    chrome_2017-06-05_20-07-02.jpg

    I have a question for you guys, is the anniversary update stable enough to use it on everyday basis? I want to upgrade from Denim to W10M anniversary update. And if things went wrong, can I roll back from W10M to WP 8.1 using the Lumia Recovery Tool ?
    Thank you so much guys for your generous feedbacks!!!
    Last edited by SirDubbleB; 06-11-2017 at 02:43 PM.
    Boris NevermorE likes this.
    06-11-2017 01:28 PM
  6. Boris NevermorE's Avatar
    SirDubbleB Guess i got lucky with my phone. When i tell other owners that i don't have any of those problems with their 950's, half of them doesn't believe me, the other half think i am lying, lol. But when i give them my 950 and they see with their own eyes, it's a different story after, lol
    Anyway, my unit is international sim-unlocked unit that can be used world wide. It is manufactured on 20th of July 2016 in Vietnam (RM-1104_15250). I'm in Macedonia, south-east of Europe. The phone is bought in Sofia, Bulgaria, but doesn't matter that since Serbia, Macedonia, Bulgaria and Greece are the same market.
    Thank you for understanding my post about my experience with my 950 compared to yours. I knew you gonna take it well. Hope you find a phone that will works best for you and do notify us here what will be your next purchase.
    Cheers bro! :)
    Last edited by Boris NevermorE; 06-12-2017 at 12:37 PM.
    06-12-2017 12:17 PM
  7. sd4f's Avatar
    So I'm about to do the same. I've had a 920 for about the same amount of time (through work) and found out they could upgrade me to a 950 for $29.99 (only issue is it's only available in white from AT&T now!).

    One question, did you restore your backup/settings from your 920 and how did that go?

    Scott
    For the most part, it's ok. I've had issues with SMS and MMS not syncing across, I've got a hole from about February 2016-February 2017 which are all missing, while it appears everything before and after that is there. The missing texts are all still on my old phone. Resyncing it across doesn't solve it.

    Next, the boot from backup doesn't really do that much. All the apps will need to be downloaded from the store anyway, it just automates it. I never noticed any saved data carry across in any of the apps either. It did bring across the start screen. After a few resets, I decided to just start fresh. Contacts sync across without much trouble, you can check the 'library' in the store to see what apps you have and are still available.

    One thing I'd recommend is, if you get the phone, don't setup an account until the phone has been updated with the latest OS updates. So boot it up, skip signing in, just get it to do os updates. When that's finished, do a hard reset so that you boot fresh into the new version.

    With your old phone, force a backup (if it fails you'll have to go into onedrive, delete old backups) and when that's finished switch it off. Once it's off, that's when you should start setting up the new phone. Hopefully this mitigates against any wonky syncing, because it appears to me that WP8 and W10M don't use the exact same systems. Probably best thing is to set aside some quiet time, pull out the sim to not get any new calls or texts come across.

    Apart from that, W10M is nice, but even with the creators update, it's still buggier than WP8. I'm having a few issues with some apps crashing, screen rotation wrecks a few things when you lock the phone, and I've got a software issue with the proximity sensor where if I lower the phone from my ear, the screen won't turn on. Appears to happen with a bit of software use, gets solved with a reboot. Battery life is worse, which is really annoying when the battery is 50% larger than the L920's.

    What's really good are the following;
    • Edge is a lot better browser, which is important, considering a lack of apps
    • screen is nice looking
    • camera is superb, and faster
    • a lot of apps are improved and have more features
    • it's still that familiar WP UI
    • vibrator is much stronger, phone is louder in calls and speaker than L920 (those were all a bit too weak on the L920)
    06-12-2017 06:43 PM
  8. HerronScott's Avatar
    For the most part, it's ok. I've had issues with SMS and MMS not syncing across, I've got a hole from about February 2016-February 2017 which are all missing, while it appears everything before and after that is there. The missing texts are all still on my old phone. Resyncing it across doesn't solve it.
    Thank you for the advice and information!

    Scott
    06-13-2017 06:32 AM
  9. S P Heath's Avatar
    I had a 930 for 18 months and i loved it. The build quality was beautiful and it was different to everybody else's Apple/android devices. I smashed it and was gutted! Reluctantly went to the 950 In October 2016. I thought the device looked plain and boring for a flag ship device. I replaced the rear cover for individuality. Having said that, the 950 is far superior and with insider builds it does everything i want and more. The battery life could be better but it charges super fast. Over 50% in less than 30 minutes!! Samsung and other devices are talking about now having HDR on their cameras, whoopie doo, my device has had HDR for about the last 7 months. I don't want what everyone else has and if Microsoft continues it's support with these devices i will continue to buy them. My final advice is, go for it! Buy yourself a 950 and enjoy 😀
    06-13-2017 09:16 AM
  10. SirDubbleB's Avatar
    @Boris NevermorE
    Thanks for your reply man and of course I took it well, we were sharing experiences.. That's what the whole idea is about. I wish I had your Lumia 950 hahaha. Actually for now I made a choice, I bought a new Lumia 930 White.. And I am very satisfied. For my next purchase, I hope it will a surface phone.. I still love the look and feel of Windows. So I'm asking you, if I upgraded my L930 to Windows 10 mobile, is it possible to roll it back to 8.1 ? In case, I don't like the experience on W10M? Thank you.
    @S P Heath
    Thank you for your feedback, actually I already switched back to another Lumia 930. Unfortunatley, My experience with the L950 wasn't that great.. When you had a L930, did you upgrade it to Windows 10 mobile? If yes, how was your overall experience ? Better or worse than WP 8.1 ? Thank you.
    06-13-2017 12:10 PM
  11. Boris NevermorE's Avatar
    @SirDubbleB Yes you can, because Lumia 930 IS a natural windows phone 8.1 device, it was build with WP8.1 in mind. Here is a safe method how to do it.
    How to roll back your smartphone from Windows 10 Mobile to Windows Phone 8.1 | Digital Citizen

    P.S. Trust me, once you go W10M with your 930, a new world will open to you. It will be hard as hell to go back. Consider yourself warned, lol :) If you need any other assistance, please write back :)
    SirDubbleB likes this.
    06-13-2017 03:56 PM
  12. MadeforVermont's Avatar
    I still love my Lumia Icon (929) and it runs great on Windows 10 Insiders Preview. I was so disappointed when I stopped receiving updates after build 10.0.15063.251. I would upgrade, but I'll have to move to AT&T because Verizon only has the Lumia 735. I keep hoping Microsoft will get their act together AND get Verizon on board.
    SirDubbleB likes this.
    06-13-2017 07:03 PM
  13. SirDubbleB's Avatar
    @Boris NevermorE
    Oh great news, I am thrilled.. Thank you so much for the link, it's detailed enough to guide me through this. I will definitely test and get back to you when I have a question, thank you so much for your generous tips. Cheers mate ;)
    @MadeforVermont
    Man, the L930 is still one of the best Windows Phones out there, I wish it was possible to install the Creators Update withouth the registery hack. Let's hope that MS'll upgrade their game.
    Boris NevermorE likes this.
    06-15-2017 10:12 AM
  14. Boris NevermorE's Avatar
    @SirDubbleB Glad I helped you bro, anytime :)
    SirDubbleB likes this.
    06-15-2017 04:43 PM
  15. Sebastian Belanger1's Avatar
    I just got the 950. Works great. Needs updates and rebooting at first, but then works great. Was hesitant at first but im really happy with it. :)
    Doug_M likes this.
    06-15-2017 11:36 PM
  16. Drael646464's Avatar
    Dude, I ran every single update out there.. gone through 3 updates until I reached the Creators one and I kept checking till no more updates were available. So it is the CU, I am sure abt it. It could be a faulty hardware, but I said earlier, the problems I encountered were listed by other people as well. So I don't think all of us got a faulty hardware/software L950. About MS dropping skype, have a look at this tweet:

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	chrome_2017-06-05_20-07-02.jpg 
Views:	18 
Size:	88.4 KB 
ID:	136207
    @SirDubbleB

    Oh I realise they have stopped supporting skype as an alternative to the messaging app, but skype itself is still supported for win10m. Part of the shift to UWP I imagine, merging with the desktop preview.

    As for the updates, Are you positive, that it was the OS build, did you ever do a hard reset, and then take it right up to insiders preview?

    I've got a 950, runs like a dream (apart from slight lag on FBs badly written app). I'll admit the factory build was terrible, and there are known hardware issues with removeable battery pin connector issues (not windows specific), such as resets, when the battery doesn't contact well.

    Because I got my phone recently, and more or less updated it straight away to insiders preview (insiders preview because since CU, its been nothing but bug fixes, so that seemed like the best build to go for), I've never experienced any of the issues people complain about, apart from the first day on stock.

    Then again, the reset problem is nothing to do with software, its about the battery pins, same thing happens on blackberries with removeable batteries, you have to do things like prop up the battery with folded paper, clean the connections etc (unless you wanna replace the pins).

    But yeah, runs clean for me. I do know some people have weird issues, that are usually resolved by either fixing the battery contacts, or hard resetting to fix some kind of breakdown in the OS, but neither of those are exclusive to win10m, the former happens to any phone with removeable batteries, and the later certainly happens on android.

    IDK, I mean I guess there are probably faulty devices, but CU on win10m, on the 950 is great for me. So it cannot be regarded as an OS problem AFAIK, if everyone on the update, and the same hardware doesn't experience those issues. If everyone experience those issues, it could be considered an OS issue.

    These kinds of issues aren't win10m exclusives. Android users have to do hard resets sometimes to fix some kind of OS corruption. Anyone with a removeable battery has good odds of encountering the dreaded bad pin connection. But they maybe I'm just chill about it, because my phone is all good...
    Last edited by Drael646464; 06-16-2017 at 05:11 AM.
    06-16-2017 04:46 AM
  17. SirDubbleB's Avatar
    @Boris NevermorE
    Thank you so much for your help, here is the deal: After trying the OS for almost a week now, it works great.. Love the UI, so beautiful, fluid enough for my taste, great UWP apps, loved design language, they look more modern.. But unfortunatly, I had to roll back, the camera app is so slow, it takes shots instantely but takes forever to finalize the shot, I always get 'Applying finishing touches' and I couldn't figure out to make 'Living images' show up like on windows phone 8.1, how do you show 'Living images' on the microsoft camera ? I had it activated but I couldn't find out how : /.. And is there any hack to manually install the Lumia camera alongside ?? It's quicker and snappier at taking photos. Another bug I encountered, I couldn't send images from the 'saved images' folder on WhatsApp? Is it just me or it's a general issue?
    Thanks in advance for your help bro, I really appreciate it !!!

    @Sebastian Belanger1
    Thank you so much for making an account just to recommend me a L950, but seems that you forgot a purchase link haha.. Come on MS, you're better than this hahaha #ORM #Wink

    @Drael646464
    Thank you for your generous feedback, about my experience with the L950; actually I didn't hard/soft reset.. I was so disappointed that I only thought of taking it back to the store and get a L930 instead, and the device wasn't on the insider program, nor a 'fast' neither a 'slow' ring.. It was running the CU, I'm 100% sure man ;).. All I can say is the device might be faulty and I hope it was haha. You are so lucky with you device, trust me if you had the one I had, you could've thrown it right away :D.. Is the insider program stable enough to use on your daily drive ? are you a fast or a slow ringer ? Do apps behave like on stable builds ?
    Last edited by SirDubbleB; 06-20-2017 at 04:16 AM.
    06-20-2017 04:05 AM
  18. Drael646464's Avatar
    @SirDubbleB

    I would say insiders preview is THE most stable build. As I said, because feature2, since CU, has been entirely bugfixes, not new features or changes, I believe the insiders preview is the best, at least for supported phones.

    My BT wasn't working correctly on the regular CU. Nothing else was wrong, but it wasn't discovering right.

    I installed insiders preview, and it works now like a charm. I think the mobile teams main focus, since CU, ATM is tightening up all the little issues. Fast ring, I think still have their share of issues, being on the front line.
    I've had no real problem with apps. I will say that the FB app is incredibly slow, so I just use a web wrapper in the form of slimsocial, and use the FB app just for the live tile. But that's because the FB app is terrible on mobile ARM.

    Everything else, sweet as a cherry. Just got a wireless charger for it, that's real nice. And continuum hub will probably arrive tomorrow.

    Often troubleshooting is frustrating, and patience testing. And a product that does work out of the box, when you are busy with life, can sometimes be the straw that breaks the camels back. My wireless charger didn't work - it was the included cable. Replaced it, and bingo it worked. But took me awhile to work that out lol. In the meantime I was thinking - how do I get my money back dammit!
    06-20-2017 06:17 AM
  19. Boris NevermorE's Avatar
    @SirDubbleB As far as I know, the famous Lumia Camera from WP8.1 is actually the main camera app on W10M. Check if in your settings RAW imaging is checked or HDR (uncheck them) those options if ON took more time to snap a shot. Or better, can you make me a screenshot from your main camera settings? All of them. I'll tell you then how to set the cam app for better experience with it.
    As for Insiders rings, Slow ring is your best option. Over 90% of the Fast Ring Insiders have those builds on their second (testing) device, not on their main. For the main device Slow Ring is best, cuz is way more polished and is closest to Official Releases.
    For other issues, Google is your best friend, just make sure to write the right question. For example for the living images:
    - How to show living images in windows 10 mobile?
    or
    - Are living images supported in windows 10 mobile?
    These are just an examples how. Good thing about Google is you can actually ask him questions and you get best results.
    Or, visit XDA-Develpers web site, you can find tons of tweaks, solutions, etc for WP8.1 and W10Mobile.
    Hope this will help you a bit.
    Cheers mate.
    06-21-2017 04:29 AM
  20. calwolfe's Avatar
    I have had the Lumia 950 XL for almost 2 years. It is the best phone I have ever had. It is too bad it is connected to Microsoft, who could care less about mobile users. If Microsoft does not take a different mobile stance within the next year, they will lose me forever as a customer for anything they sell or promote.
    Near the end of my rope in Arkansas.
    06-21-2017 03:38 PM
  21. skydiverian's Avatar
    If you can afford it, have to suggest the 950 simply because you'll get support for longer. WP8.1 supports ends on July 11th - just 16 days away - so if you have a problem, you can't phone Microsoft and request assistance, it'll be a job for the forums. You'll also not get any more security patches.

    Win 10 gets updated every month with security and bug fixes - and that will continue on both a 930 with Anniversary and 950 with creators update. Keep in mind that, officially speaking, you won't get the creators update for the 950 (though you'll probably still get security updates for another year). The 950 is still properly supported and I'd be surprised if it doesn't get the "fall" creators update and maybe one more feature update as well.

    Short answer - if you can afford it, get the 950.
    06-25-2017 02:23 AM
  22. sd4f's Avatar
    Short answer - if you can afford it, get the 950.
    Having used the L950 for a month now, I'd strongly discourage it.

    Microsoft's strategy appears to now be to put their weight behind the next thing. Problem is, they're letting everything run down in the meantime. With the feature2 branch for W10M phones, the talk is that it'll get security updates, but no new features. Big thing is the OS is still quite buggy, and that's probably not going to be addressed.

    I personally think that the overarching mobile strategy has gone past the point of no return. They can't fix it, there's nothing they can possibly bring out that will compel users to adopt it in the numbers they want. Phone hardware hasn't mattered for the last few iterations. The big problem is and will be, how do they get users and developers to support the platform, when they currently won't. The ecosystem is the critical part which MS can't really do much about.

    The only thing I think that MS can do is make the platform profitable for developers, where iOS and android is not. After all, that's what developers want; to make money for their work.
    Boris NevermorE and xandros9 like this.
    06-29-2017 08:43 PM
  23. Drael646464's Avatar
    Big thing is the OS is still quite buggy, and that's probably not going to be addressed.
    Literally every week or so they are rolling out new bugfixes to insider builds. What are you talking about?
    fatclue_98 and fin11 like this.
    07-05-2017 09:49 PM
  24. hankster1988's Avatar
    Agreed. Running new 950 for just over a week now. With the insider slow ring, phone is stable and doing great!
    07-06-2017 07:55 AM
  25. sd4f's Avatar
    I'm not on insider, I'm on regular production build, and it's nowhere near as stable as WP8.1 was, I got a reboot last night, and bluetooth is ******* me off, doesn't sync properly with my car always. Again, this didn't happen with WP8.1 for me. I get severe slow downs, and at times audio issues. Even something like a headphones remote doesn't work all the time properly, if I press too fast it doesn't register as a double or triple click.

    Other apps run buggy too, but I get the feeling that's the app, not the OS.
    07-07-2017 12:36 AM
83 1234

Similar Threads

  1. Warranty is a Joke
    By Juldewy in forum Microsoft Band & Band 2
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 07-15-2017, 09:39 AM
  2. Microsoft is bringing its Windows phone keyboard to Windows 10 PCs and tablets
    By WindowsCentral.com in forum Windows Central News Discussion
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 06-05-2017, 08:14 PM
  3. New to eco system, need music advice
    By Doug_M in forum Windows 10 Mobile
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 06-04-2017, 07:42 AM
  4. Here are 4 things you need to try in SteamVR Home
    By WindowsCentral.com in forum Windows Central News Discussion
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 06-03-2017, 08:40 AM
  5. PDF Assistant Pro is a Swiss Army knife of a Windows 10 app
    By WindowsCentral.com in forum Windows Central News Discussion
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 06-03-2017, 08:10 AM
LINK TO POST COPIED TO CLIPBOARD