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  1. iHuGi's Avatar
    i don't want anyone to call me a fanboy but...
    Google VS Bing?
    Chrome VS IE?
    Gmail VS Outlook?
    Android VS WP?
    Android VS Windows RT?

    Google beats MS in every battlefield over here and don't tell me Outlook is better you should switch...blah blah. IE 10 is better you should switch... blah blah blah.. i personally love being in Google ecosystem we got everything we need when i use android (except damn laggy and buggy) i got access to everything i need youtube app facebook app gmail google maps(nokia maps is great but just a p.o.s in my country) google plus(who said google plus is a ghost town? a lot of people use it like me and i found my self spending time on G+ more than facebook.) and best of all i just need one account to access everything.

    I don't care about Google and MS war but it MS's responsibility to make their OS better? Google block microsoft from develop youtube app. so what? it's microsoft job to make it happen. do whatever you can just make a damn youtube app. i presume everyone here know Scoogle right? that is karma.

    anyway still love my 920 :)
    Lol basically Google only beats MS in Search.

    All the others services you listed Microsoft services are just way better than what Google offers and you forgot Windows on Pcs vs ChromeBooks and also Office vs Google Docs. Also MSN vs Google News where MSN is much much better.

    IE10 is much cooler then Chrome and Outlook RAPES Gmail. Also Windows RT is much better than Android the problema is the prices.
    03-17-2013 07:28 AM
  2. Daniel Ratcliffe's Avatar
    i don't want anyone to call me a fanboy but...
    Google VS Bing?
    You can have this one. Even though I try and Bing as much as possible.

    Chrome VS IE?
    In my experience the opposite is true. Chrome with NO add-ons jacked up my PC. IE hasn't done this to me ever.

    Gmail VS Outlook?
    I find Outlook easier to use, and clean. And it has quite a lot of features. Btw, I have an Outlook, a Live (with Outlook interface etc) and 2 Gmail accounts that are set to be regulars.

    Android VS WP?
    Feature-wise, yes Android is better. Experience-wise... I disagree, I find WP a LOT better.

    Android VS Windows RT?
    I haven't tried Windows RT but do find the Android tabs suit my needs better than the RT tabs in terms of hardware (and I don't mean OMG must have octocore phone stuff, I mean hardware features like active/capacitive dual-digitisers and stuff).

    Google beats MS in every battlefield over here and don't tell me Outlook is better you should switch...blah blah. IE 10 is better you should switch... blah blah blah.. i personally love being in Google ecosystem we got everything we need when i use android (except damn laggy and buggy) i got access to everything i need youtube app facebook app gmail google maps(nokia maps is great but just a p.o.s in my country) google plus(who said google plus is a ghost town? a lot of people use it like me and i found my self spending time on G+ more than facebook.) and best of all i just need one account to access everything.

    I don't care about Google and MS war but it MS's responsibility to make their OS better? Google block microsoft from develop youtube app. so what? it's microsoft job to make it happen. do whatever you can just make a damn youtube app. i presume everyone here know Scoogle right? that is karma.

    anyway still love my 920 :)
    I just went through your post. I don't use Google+ though, prefer FB because everyone I know near enough is on it!
    squire777 and abel920 like this.
    03-17-2013 10:53 AM
  3. AngryNil's Avatar
    Google block microsoft from develop youtube app. so what? it's microsoft job to make it happen. do whatever you can just make a damn youtube app.
    And that's the problem I have with Google defenders, whether you were intending to be one or not. There's just a lack of fundamental understanding of the situation, whether through lack of research or willful ignorance. Microsoft is saying they've worked with the YouTube team, have a client ready, and Google shut it down. Would the situation be the same if YouTube had stayed independent? And Scroogled is a marketing campaign, it doesn't hurt users. Google is hurting users, from acquiring YouTube and shutting out Microsoft, to essentially monopolising the RSS market then killing their product.

    Now personally, I wouldn't give a crap if Apple didn't allow iTunes to work with Windows 8. That's Apple for you, they may be smug but they aren't blatantly blindsiding you. If Google wishes to play it's bullcrap "openness" and "freedom" arguments, it should stop locking out development of clients for its yes, proprietary services. Let's not even get started on actually opening up those proprietary services.
    WinFan1, a5cent and acl14 like this.
    03-17-2013 06:45 PM
  4. JamesDax's Avatar
    The OP is clearly delusional.
    03-17-2013 06:48 PM
  5. AaHaa's Avatar
    the op is clearly delusional.
    I'm seeing Eric Schmidt everywhere
    03-18-2013 03:10 AM
  6. WinFan1's Avatar
    i honestly dont find anything about google appealing. If anything i have nothing but pure blind hatred for google for doing what its done to youtube. To each their own, but dont sit here and expect me to choose google over ms, not because of flame wars, but simply because everything they touch turns to ****, with their damn ads...
    03-18-2013 11:51 AM
  7. squire777's Avatar
    If IE had a proper ad block and pop-up blocker like Chrome and FF did then people wouldn't be ragging on it so much.

    A lot of people I know who have Google+ accounts only signed up in order to get access to other Google services but don't actually use Google+ itself.
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    03-18-2013 12:09 PM
  8. ninjaap's Avatar
    If IE had a proper ad block and pop-up blocker like Chrome and FF did then people wouldn't be ragging on it so much.

    A lot of people I know who have Google+ accounts only signed up in order to get access to other Google services but don't actually use Google+ itself.
    Whats wrong with TPL?
    03-18-2013 12:21 PM
  9. AaHaa's Avatar
    Whats wrong with TPL?
    Does that work as good as AdBlocker? Because I'm this close to switching to IE. I'm just waiting for Simple Adblock to release a IE 10 version.

    But ontopic, Google is going to release Babble, with which they'll compete with Facebook and Skype... And it'll probably be better, just like a lot of other services. You guys kinda get the point, I'm making, right?
    03-19-2013 04:12 PM
  10. ninjaap's Avatar
    Does that work as good as AdBlocker? Because I'm this close to switching to IE. I'm just waiting for Simple Adblock to release a IE 10 version.

    But ontopic, Google is going to release Babble, with which they'll compete with Facebook and Skype... And it'll probably be better, just like a lot of other services. You guys kinda get the point, I'm making, right?
    Works great for me. There are quite a few you can choose to install. I didn't feel like choosing, so I installed all of them. :)
    03-19-2013 05:04 PM
  11. AngryNil's Avatar
    Does that work as good as AdBlocker? Because I'm this close to switching to IE. I'm just waiting for Simple Adblock to release a IE 10 version.
    It works reasonably well, though it isn't as easy to set up as AdBlock for Chrome, for example. It's not primarily built to block ads, so you don't get the ease of use such as right clicking an ad and blocking it.
    03-19-2013 06:12 PM
  12. abel920's Avatar
    Well, well, well, the Co-creator of Android stepped down in office. This could be a paradigm shift in Google's fate.

    03-19-2013 08:57 PM
  13. omniusovermind's Avatar
    Well, well, well, the Co-creator of Android stepped down in office. This could be a paradigm shift in Google's fate.

    He moved to a project that Google won't publicly reveal yet. Rubin himself stated his real passion is inventing more than maintaining, speculation is that he wants to get involved with a newer Google project rather than stay involved with the business side of Android. I wouldn't read too much into it. His successor is also extremely talented
    03-20-2013 11:46 PM
  14. sentimentGX4's Avatar
    i don't want anyone to call me a fanboy but...Google VS Bing?Chrome VS IE?Gmail VS Outlook?Android VS WP?Android VS Windows RT?
    Google search is better than Bing; but, the other wars except email are ones where I can pick "neither" and I don't agree Gmail is better than Outlook. I'm not being a fanboy when I say Outlook is better. I use all email services... Even AOL! Gmail lacks features Outlook offers like Skydrive with high storage capacity and easy file transfers as well as the Office web apps.

    Even if Google wins against Mucrosoft in certain matchups, there is nothing to fear if it doesn't hold a monopoly position. I can still pick a non-Google, non-Microsoft alternative. For example, I prefer Opera and iPads. What will big Google do about that?
    03-21-2013 12:04 AM
  15. MinnesotaSteve's Avatar
    Hmm. I've been in this business a long time, and frankly I think Microsoft is simply receiving a good solid dose of their own medicine. I've seen a lot of companies come and go. What was on top is no longer. Good ideas do usually prevail.

    I think Microsoft is learning, and they've got some good ideas right now on the direction of things, but they seem to be struggling to explain it. I think in large part because of the existing culture.

    Google for as large as they are is also itself struggling. They've succeeded with search and make money there, but most all of their other initiatives for how clever and creative they are... they don't make money. Android for how success it is, doesn't really make Google money. It helps direct traffic to their sites but is that enough?

    We'll see.
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    03-21-2013 01:55 PM
  16. a5cent's Avatar
    I think Microsoft is learning, and they've got some good ideas right now on the direction of things, but they seem to be struggling to explain it. I think in large part because of the existing culture.
    Completely agree! Apparently, MS has determined that explaining many of these differences is a lost cause. I'm starting to feel they chose wisely...
    03-21-2013 02:09 PM
  17. omniusovermind's Avatar
    Hmm. I've been in this business a long time....

    ...Google for as large as they are is also itself struggling. They've succeeded with search and make money there, but most all of their other initiatives for how clever and creative they are... they don't make money. Android for how success it is, doesn't really make Google money. It helps direct traffic to their sites but is that enough?

    We'll see.
    Google was listed as the 2nd richest technology company in the world last year at the end of q3 I'm not sure where you're going with this.
    03-21-2013 07:55 PM
  18. a5cent's Avatar
    Google was listed as the 2nd richest technology company in the world last year at the end of q3 I'm not sure where you're going with this.
    I think his point is, that Google has so far failed to profitably monetize anything beyond search. Ignoring their investments outside their traditional software space, Google is a gigantic company standing on a single pilar called 'search' and is struggling everywhere else, which everyone is willing to ignore since search is such a rediculously efficient money printing machine.

    Google isn't struggling financially, but strategically.
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    03-21-2013 09:27 PM
  19. AaHaa's Avatar
    Completely agree! Apparently, MS has determined that explaining many of these differences is a lost cause. I'm starting to feel they chose wisely...
    I really got this feeling myself when I saw the "Child of the 90's" IE-commercial. It really looks like they learnt from their mistakes, know what challenges they face, how people think about them, and what to do about it. If Microsoft can continue working like this, I'd be a lot less worried.
    03-22-2013 04:32 AM
  20. nube_android's Avatar
    There's a great article on SeekingAlpha about android and Google, its about how Microsoft are in a much better position than Google are.
    I haven't got the link but I'm sure someone will post it.
    I would say the reason MS is in a better positition is because they not only have control over their operating system, but they have much more growth room in the mobile market.
    03-22-2013 10:50 AM
  21. ninjaap's Avatar
    Hmm. I've been in this business a long time, and frankly I think Microsoft is simply receiving a good solid dose of their own medicine. I've seen a lot of companies come and go. What was on top is no longer. Good ideas do usually prevail.

    I think Microsoft is learning, and they've got some good ideas right now on the direction of things, but they seem to be struggling to explain it. I think in large part because of the existing culture.

    Google for as large as they are is also itself struggling. They've succeeded with search and make money there, but most all of their other initiatives for how clever and creative they are... they don't make money. Android for how success it is, doesn't really make Google money. It helps direct traffic to their sites but is that enough?

    We'll see.
    I think that's a pretty solid point of view about MS. I can dig it.
    03-22-2013 11:34 AM
  22. KingCrimson's Avatar
    In terms of online services, I use all Google with the exception of SkyDrive. I find Google services to be utterly superior to Microsoft's. Chrome is like 100x better then IE 10. Gmail is 1000000x better then Outlook.com. Google Search is 4134321432432x better then Bing when it comes to showing relevant results, then you add Knowledge Graph on top of that. Bing did have a nice image results UI, but Google has since surpassed it.
    03-24-2013 03:18 AM
  23. KingCrimson's Avatar
    I think his point is, that Google has so far failed to profitably monetize anything beyond search. Ignoring their investments outside their traditional software space, Google is a gigantic company standing on a single pilar called 'search' and is struggling everywhere else, which everyone is willing to ignore since search is such a rediculously efficient money printing machine.

    Google isn't struggling financially, but strategically.
    Microsoft has still failed to create a new profit engine in the last decade. They are still riding on their legacy creations of Windows/Office/Tools. XBox has made a lot of revenues, but a ton of losses. So essentially Google & MSFT are in the same boat. Only Apple seems to be able to create wildly profitable new business units every 3-4 years.
    03-24-2013 03:20 AM
  24. a5cent's Avatar
    Microsoft has still failed to create a new profit engine in the last decade. They are still riding on their legacy creations of Windows/Office/Tools. XBox has made a lot of revenues, but a ton of losses. So essentially Google & MSFT are in the same boat. Only Apple seems to be able to create wildly profitable new business units every 3-4 years.
    Legacy creations? Do you also consider Google's single relevant service 'legacy search'? That description is out of place.

    Also, you've not mentioned any of MS' servers and enterprise services, which are a huge part of their operations. Just because consumers are oblivious to them doesn't make them unimportant.

    The point here is that Microsoft has many products in active development that are sold across many different industries and at various levels. Microsoft is, even just within the software space, a highly diversified company, which creates a lot of opportunities others lack. Google stands on a single pillar called search, whereas MS stands on dozens.

    In that sense, Google and MS are not at all in the same boat.
    03-24-2013 05:49 AM
  25. omniusovermind's Avatar
    Legacy creations? Do you also consider Google's single relevant service 'legacy search'? That description is out of place.

    Also, you've not mentioned any of MS' servers and enterprise services, which are a huge part of their operations. Just because consumers are oblivious to them doesn't make them unimportant.

    The point here is that Microsoft has many products in active development that are sold across many different industries and at various levels. Microsoft is, even just within the software space, a highly diversified company, which creates a lot of opportunities others lack. Google stands on a single pillar called search, whereas MS stands on dozens.

    In that sense, Google and MS are not at all in the same boat.
    Google has an estimated 400 projects on the go at their R&D including hardware. They also have holdings in robotics, biotechnology, and even pharmaceuticals. Don't just go by what is publicly visible.

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    03-24-2013 01:30 PM
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