06-07-2013 10:53 AM
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  1. eddieDOTexe's Avatar
    To be fair most (if not all, save for the EU) of IE installs are because it comes bundled with Windows. But this is pretty good news for Microsoft. They're finally shaking off that bad image from their browser.
    06-02-2013 03:23 PM
  2. sueha's Avatar
    If you could install Adblock Plus for IE10 i'd swap from Firefox... But I simply cannot put up with those ads on Youtube etc... Forcing you to watch a 30 second video before you can see the content you want.

    No thanks google.

    Never had any ads on YouTube with IE10 + TPL.
    06-02-2013 06:22 PM
  3. iHuGi's Avatar
    I've been using Chrome for several years now and it has been a great browser. IE10 is much better than previous versions but it still lacks a good development tool. The code inspector is great in Chrome but quite archaic in IE. As a web developer, I can't avoid Chrome until Microsoft makes an equivalent developer tool.
    i have to agree that Chrome Store is way better than IE store but new IE might have the Windows Store no ?? With all the games and such.
    06-02-2013 07:19 PM
  4. Storl's Avatar
    I've been using Chrome for several years now and it has been a great browser. IE10 is much better than previous versions but it still lacks a good development tool. The code inspector is great in Chrome but quite archaic in IE. As a web developer, I can't avoid Chrome until Microsoft makes an equivalent developer tool.
    IE11 has some new things i think, or just a redesign of the Developer UI (F12) not sure.. but you should be able to test it on the 26th June with the 8.1 Preview for W8.
    Personally i think IE10 is great but it can not replace Opera for me even though IE10 is far better at rendering, but the lack of Javascript extensions is annoying :\ and the only extension i really want is WoT which brings up a very ugly extra bar on IE10...
    06-02-2013 07:22 PM
  5. gsquared's Avatar
    For ads I use MVPS Hosts. It reverts all unwanted sites back to 127.0.0.1
    06-02-2013 08:20 PM
  6. Jazmac's Avatar
    Google is worried their business practices are coming under scrutiny from regulators in the US and Europe. Can't be good for investors.
    06-02-2013 08:27 PM
  7. sentimentGX4's Avatar
    I'm team Opera all the way! This browser doesn't get the attention it deserves for being the driving force behind the overwhelming majority of web browser innovation for over a decade.

    (EDIT: But I also use Chrome and Firefox and Metro IE on occasion.)
    06-02-2013 10:11 PM
  8. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    I'm team Opera all the way! This browser doesn't get the attention it deserves for being the driving force behind the overwhelming majority of web browser innovation for over a decade.

    (EDIT: But I also use Chrome and Firefox and Metro IE on occasion.)
    Have you tried Opera Next 15.0? It's really fast.
    06-02-2013 10:18 PM
  9. spaulagain's Avatar
    i have to agree that Chrome Store is way better than IE store but new IE might have the Windows Store no ?? With all the games and such.
    I'm not talking about the store. I'm talking about the code inspector. As a web developer it is very helpful in troubleshooting development. Chrome's inspector lets you right mouse click on an object to view its html and CSS, then change right in the browser to see the changes. Also, it visually shows the margins and padding, etc. IE's inspector is half baked at best. You can't simply right mouse click on an item and view it. You have to view the code, then click through all the [+] for each div until you find it. Then the CSS is displayed horribly on the right and very difficult to re-factor in the browser.

    My Dad has been an avid IE adversary for sometime. Recently he and I started working on a web project together. I showed him the tool in Chrome vs the IE one and he couldn't believe how good the Chrome one was. He switched and hasn't looked back.

    Also, Microsoft needs to stop versioning their browser. Until they do that, they will always be behind Chrome and Firefox. While IE10 is much better, dealing with the legacy versions is a nightmare. Especially because Microsoft was horrible at using standards even between their own versions.

    When I have to add 3 additional stylesheets to a project specifically for older versions of IE, then there is a fundamental problem with IE.
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    06-02-2013 10:32 PM
  10. a5cent's Avatar
    If you could install Adblock Plus for IE10 i'd swap from Firefox
    I use adblock plus, request policy and ghostery in Firefox. I haven't found anything like those for IE yet.
    I'm not sure if this is what you two are looking for. I think it might be, so give it a try. I'm using IE10 and so far it has worked great. After installing and enabling it, you also need to tell it what country you are in (status bar > simple-add-block icon > settings).

    Adblock for Internet Explorer version IE7, IE8, IE9 and IE10 – Simple Adblock
    06-02-2013 11:42 PM
  11. JammyGitz's Avatar
    I've been using Chrome for a couple of years ago and I forgot pop-ups even existed until I tried IE 10, then every website I was going on.... BAM... casino pop-up blocked my view of the porn I was watching. IE's pop-up blocker doesn't even work
    06-03-2013 05:53 AM
  12. 12Danny123's Avatar
    I've been using Chrome for a couple of years ago and I forgot pop-ups even existed until I tried IE 10, then every website I was going on.... BAM... casino pop-up blocked my view of the porn I was watching. IE's pop-up blocker doesn't even work
    Ewww. Hope your not addicted to porn
    06-03-2013 06:01 AM
  13. WanderingTraveler's Avatar
    I'm going to wait till I get my Win8 PC for me to go back to using IE.
    Some toolbar messed up IE on my laptop. That, and some devs are just sloppy in coding *cough*Facebook*cough*
    I've been using Chrome for a couple of years ago and I forgot pop-ups even existed until I tried IE 10, then every website I was going on.... BAM... casino pop-up blocked my view of the porn I was watching. IE's pop-up blocker doesn't even work
    I totally forgot I was in a family-friendly forum when I saw this.
    I'm 14.
    06-03-2013 06:13 AM
  14. WanderingTraveler's Avatar
    I'm team Opera all the way! This browser doesn't get the attention it deserves for being the driving force behind the overwhelming majority of web browser innovation for over a decade.

    (EDIT: But I also use Chrome and Firefox and Metro IE on occasion.)
    As someone who used Opera Mini back in my days with Symbian (which was a long, long time in phone years), go Opera!
    Then, they switched to Webkit...
    06-03-2013 06:16 AM
  15. Robert Carpenter's Avatar
    I'm not talking about the store. I'm talking about the code inspector. As a web developer it is very helpful in troubleshooting development. Chrome's inspector lets you right mouse click on an object to view its html and CSS, then change right in the browser to see the changes. Also, it visually shows the margins and padding, etc. IE's inspector is half baked at best. You can't simply right mouse click on an item and view it. You have to view the code, then click through all the [+] for each div until you find it. Then the CSS is displayed horribly on the right and very difficult to re-factor in the browser.

    My Dad has been an avid IE adversary for sometime. Recently he and I started working on a web project together. I showed him the tool in Chrome vs the IE one and he couldn't believe how good the Chrome one was. He switched and hasn't looked back.

    Also, Microsoft needs to stop versioning their browser. Until they do that, they will always be behind Chrome and Firefox. While IE10 is much better, dealing with the legacy versions is a nightmare. Especially because Microsoft was horrible at using standards even between their own versions.

    When I have to add 3 additional stylesheets to a project specifically for older versions of IE, then there is a fundamental problem with IE.
    Just wanted to point out that you are wrong, maybe you just haven't discovered it.

    IE has an "Inspect Element" option too. If you open F12 Developer Tools, right underneath the HTML tab there is a "mouse icon". Click that icon, and then you can select any element on the webpage.

    Try it out! :)
    stmav and dakranii like this.
    06-03-2013 08:04 AM
  16. xandros9's Avatar
    IE will have a tough time shaking off its bad reputation with a lot of people though - it's actually been a bit more unstable than Chrome or whatnot. I have to give it props though for crash recovery - I wouldnt have noticed if it didn't tell me.

    I decided to try it, but the deal-breaker was lack of add-ons like a decent ad blocker, but the pinning of webpages and other stuff is really nifty.
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    06-03-2013 09:12 AM
  17. spaulagain's Avatar
    Just wanted to point out that you are wrong, maybe you just haven't discovered it.

    IE has an "Inspect Element" option too. If you open F12 Developer Tools, right underneath the HTML tab there is a "mouse icon". Click that icon, and then you can select any element on the webpage.

    Try it out! :)
    Oh I see. That's a little better. The padding and margin info under the layout tab is horrible though. I need to see that in the browser, the generic square with number values gives me no indication relative to the other elements on the page. And the CSS tree kind of sucks still.

    I'll keep checking, especially after IE11 to see if they improve it. But I don't find it nearly as effective as Chrome.
    06-03-2013 10:41 AM
  18. Funky Cricket's Avatar
    I use IE10, Chrome and Firefox, and fid IE10 does a better job for most things. I work in IT and I've found Chrome over the last couple years taking a nose dive and becoming a hog. as far as ads, I don't ever really see them anymore, I just ignore them.
    06-03-2013 12:04 PM
  19. lemonsteveo's Avatar
    IE 10 and Firefox combo for me, not a fan of Chrome. IE10 for everyday browsing, Firefox for testing and debugging.
    For ad blocking in IE, you can use a custom style sheet in the accessibility settings. I only block Facebook and Google ads though of course, they don't need any more money...
    06-03-2013 12:20 PM
  20. ag1986's Avatar
    IE 10 and Firefox combo for me, not a fan of Chrome. IE10 for everyday browsing, Firefox for testing and debugging.
    For ad blocking in IE, you can use a custom style sheet in the accessibility settings. I only block Facebook and Google ads though of course, they don't need any more money...
    I don't have an opinion on the IE vs Chrome debate, both are good at different things.

    I would however point out that by blocking only Google ads, you are depriving the content creator of revenue and he likely needs it. May I suggest that you block the truly obnoxious sites (huffpo etc) and not some guy trying to make a few bucks from YT videos or a blog? Adblock etc offer per-domain blocking as well.

    Thanks,
    06-03-2013 12:35 PM
  21. AngryNil's Avatar
    Does anyone have a definitive breakdown of the discrepancies between NetMarketShare and other metrics? I believe the argument is that NMS weights their figures based on population of the respective markets, but to me, that means it only tells half the story. Succeeding in more technologically inclined regions is as important as having great overall usage share.

    While many like to harp on Trident, I find the biggest problem with IE is interface. It sucks on all clients across the desktop, tablet and phone.
    06-04-2013 01:59 AM
  22. onysi's Avatar
    Wonder how many chrome installs are because people don't know to uncheck the box on an adobe flash update.
    You get a cookie. that is the most annoying thing since toolbar install of Yahoo.
    AngryNil likes this.
    06-07-2013 10:53 AM
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