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  1. Blu3V3nom07's Avatar
    They're coming back. Their behavior at BUILD 2013 was proof enough. :)
    06-26-2013 02:23 PM
  2. jlzimmerman's Avatar
    I'm one of them, own a MacBook Pro and the hardware, while not the best in specs, works like a royal charm.
    When you pay 2 to 2.5 times the cost of a comparable PC, IT BETTER work like a royal charm.....
    06-26-2013 02:58 PM
  3. Daniel Ratcliffe's Avatar
    When you pay 2 to 2.5 times the cost of a comparable PC, IT BETTER work like a royal charm.....
    I have certain software that is licensed for Mac only, including a 2'500 media suite... I have to pay 100x the cost of a comparable PC. The software is part of my degree program.
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    06-26-2013 05:38 PM
  4. bbqrooster's Avatar
    So how many people needs this certain software that is licensed for Mac only? Do you know how many software only runs on Windows OS? Using yourself as a yardstick is no way to judge the market. By the way, what is this particular software? Does it have a name? I hope it's not called iOS.
    06-26-2013 05:57 PM
  5. spaulagain's Avatar
    What irks me are the people that create threads and speculative posts about market share as if they just ended their shift as an expert business reporter on CNBC, when in fact they're most likely echoing another blog or thread somewhere else by a similar wishful thinker that thinks he/she is a business expert as well.

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    Exactly, hence my earlier posts. These threads are just silly.
    06-26-2013 06:42 PM
  6. jmshub's Avatar
    First off, Microsoft isn't falling apart. They are still a massively profitable company, selling business tools alone. If Windows on the desktop, X-Box and Windows Phone all failed, Microsoft wouldn't fold, they'd just be a boring business devices and services company, a modern day IBM. They make a lot of money selling...something...

    I think Microsoft is making large strides into becoming a "cool" company, for the first time perhaps ever. If they could ever manage to implement their three screens ideas as much as they hope they can, they will be popular for years to come. Here's hoping they don't blow it...
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    06-26-2013 09:57 PM
  7. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    I have certain software that is licensed for Mac only, including a 2'500 media suite... I have to pay 100x the cost of a comparable PC. The software is part of my degree program.
    That's like my situation only the opposite. I have Photoshop for Windows, so I could never use a Mac (unless I also bought Windows and ran Windows on the Mac).
    06-26-2013 10:27 PM
  8. Mike Gibson's Avatar
    Falling apart. I've been developing for windows since WinNT and there is a huge braindrain going on in the MS ecosystem. A lot of young and upcoming developers code for android, ios, web.. compared to years ago. Their 99$ dev registration fee to develop on windows was absolutely retarded, mentioned this a year and a half ago.. and guess what happened today? they changed it to 19$. idiots.. they keep bleeding developers, their ecosystem is dying frankly this is the first time I've ever considered that MS that the future for MS is going to be a very different one 5 years from now; and not for the better.
    Yep. If they lose Windows, which they're trying their best to do, then they'll lose the company. WinRT is only suitable for applets, not programs. I see posters on various forums asking why Office requires a desktop on a Surface RT -- that's because the WinRT API is unsuitable for programs of any complexity. C++ devs like me are especially screwed on WP8 because we can't write a XAML/Direct3D/C++ app, we have to use a C# shell and stuff all the C++ in a runtime component. Although we can't use most of the well known, battle tested Win32 APIs, the WinRT framework uses them under the covers (e.g. IXMLHttpRequest2 uses WinInet)! In addition, the Win32 file and directory functions are over 200 times faster than their WinRT equivalents ... mostly due to the File Broker in WinRT. And let's not even get started on the TextBlock and other XAML elements being limited to the maximum texture size of the GPU. Who *physically* realizes an entire graphical element (instead of drawing only what's visible)??? This is Programming 101 stuff. None of this was necessary. All they needed to do was add a scalable UI API and system to Win32.

    Anyway, after seeing the complete clusterfrack that is WinRT I decided sell the MSFT shares I've held since the late 1980s/early 1990s. My livelihood depends on Windows so I hope things don't collapse too quickly. And, of course, there's still a chance that they might turn things around.
    06-26-2013 11:36 PM
  9. cckgz4's Avatar
    I'm not going to predict ANYTHING since that's not something I do for a living. But what I will tell you is from experience, on and offline, I haven't seen Microsoft being as popular as they are now, ACROSS THE BOARD, in a LONG time. And being HIGHLY competitive, which is a great thing. Launching stores, competitively priced tablet hybrids, commercials attacking the competition, it just seems that they are at their best and getting better. Are they perfect, without flaws? No, which is why I don't own a sole Windows ecosystem, but who's to say that it won't get better than what it is now? While "give it a chance" seems to be the automated response on these parts, it seems for Microsoft that time has been a great asset for them for growth
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    06-27-2013 12:57 AM
  10. Jack Larson1's Avatar
    nah, they are not going to blow it, the new EOS nokia is coming out, they are opening stores in the seattle area, and WIN 8.1 is coming, not to mention the restrictions that they lifted on the xbox 1. also, apple copied metro style with ios 7(LOL) and office 365 is doing great so far! so i think MS is not only doing great, but ahead of the game in the next gen os, metro style. good.


    you know if apple attempts to copy you that your probably on the right track.
    06-27-2013 01:18 AM
  11. Jack Larson1's Avatar
    You just come aacross as an ***, just saying
    this is an opinion, just saying

    some people beg to differ.
    06-27-2013 02:07 AM
  12. Jack Larson1's Avatar
    yeah, i' ve heard of these geniuses not being able to fix ipods locked for 40 years (seriously). they have a sort of hubris from what i've read.
    06-27-2013 02:16 AM
  13. JamesDax's Avatar
    Not falling apart and coming back from where? MS is doing fine.
    06-27-2013 05:44 AM
  14. jlzimmerman's Avatar
    I have certain software that is licensed for Mac only, including a 2'500 media suite... I have to pay 100x the cost of a comparable PC. The software is part of my degree program.
    I understand this. The point is, when you spend that much more for a machine with similar hardware/OS system specs, one should expect it to function better and with less bugs. I always snicker when my iFan friend brags about how her MacBook is so superior to my Gateway (with full blown MS Office) laptop without mentioning that she literally paid three times more than I.
    06-27-2013 07:05 AM
  15. jlzimmerman's Avatar
    Their 99$ dev registration fee to develop on windows was absolutely retarded, mentioned this a year and a half ago.. and guess what happened today? they changed it to 19$.
    Well at least that's a step in the right direction. *Shrug*
    06-27-2013 07:11 AM
  16. realwarder's Avatar
    The fact that someone can buy a Windows Tablet PC now that does everything their old Desktop and an iPad and a MacAir can do together, for less $ should bode well for Microsoft.
    06-27-2013 09:06 AM
  17. smoledman's Avatar
    One word as to why Microsoft is coming back - Azure.
    06-27-2013 10:08 PM
  18. gedzum's Avatar
    If Microsoft can address some customer issues with WP the way the did with Win8, I think that will be a huge step forward. The apps are coming, features are being improved upon; it's coming together now especially with integration across services. I'm looking forward to finally picking up Win 8 and WP8 devices soon. Microsoft just need to get these devices in customer hands and it will spread from there.
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    06-28-2013 04:57 AM
  19. Huime's Avatar
    move your *** or die. Thats how business works. The biggest weakness of MS is that is the the biggest among the current 3 relevant players. Big and slow.
    06-28-2013 05:20 AM
  20. chezm's Avatar
    As much as I love WP8 and my L920, at the rate important updates are released...i find MS could be doing a lot better. They now have an opportunity to jump ahead but instead taking time to release the crucial fixes for the general consumer (I'm fine with the device tight now).
    06-29-2013 02:45 PM
  21. nube_android's Avatar
    One word as to why Microsoft is coming back - Azure.
    I heard Azure is a huge success. But what exactly is azure?
    07-09-2013 12:09 AM
  22. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    I heard Azure is a huge success. But what exactly is azure?
    Enterprise cloud service. Windows Azure: Microsoft's Cloud Platform | Cloud Hosting | Cloud Services
    07-09-2013 12:18 AM
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