09-02-2013 11:23 PM
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  1. tgp's Avatar
    The thread is about productivity. Rotation lock and separate volume controls hardly qualifies. MS saw it fit to include Office for a segment of their clientele. They also included Facebook integration for another segment, Xbox for yet another. SkyDrive is WP8's bread and butter for those of us who use their devices for more than killing evil pigs or listening to music. Those who buy the Surface probably do it specifically for PowerPoint presentations. Different strokes for different folks y'all.
    You are correct; I got off topic there. But even so, since Microsoft released an Office app for iOS & Android there's a lot less advantage to have a WP for Office. Even so, there are 3rd party Office apps for iOS & Android that some users report are better than Office on WP. I cannot verify this as I'm not an Office power user on my phone. The only disadvantage is that for iOS & Android's Office app you must have an Office 365 account. As more & more users get one though that will be less of an issue. Once you have the app and log in, all your documents, and SkyDrive, are available inside the app. And talking of productivity, WP's email restrictions alone are enough to cause someone to look elsewhere. Not to mention no VPN support, and a very poor Skype app. My company uses Lync, and we have users of all 3 platforms using the Lync app. There's no difference there between Android, iPhone, and WP in usefulness or performance.

    I don't believe that overall WP has any advantage over the others in productivity, maybe with the exception of a few very specific situations. My boss, who is a Microsoft MVP, and a huge WP fan (at least he used to be!), has switched to Android. An iPhone probably every bit as productive, and an Android like a Note II would run circles around either in almost every area. WP has some advantages over the others, but increased productivity is not one of them.
    09-01-2013 09:15 PM
  2. thatotherdude24's Avatar
    Windows will always be productivity OS number 1. Windows 8 marketshare is now more than all of Mac OSX combined, Windows 8 isn't bad at all, it's on all my computers but it's in the same boat as WP8....it gets a bad rap, just because.

    I think the ultimate productivity device will (hopefully) be the nex-gen surface. The original Surface Pro is kind of a wow with all it can do. If MS expands on that and gives it Haswell and battery life that is fantastic, my HP Pavilion m6 gets 7+ hours easily of battery life and includes the type/touch keyboard sub $1000 that would be an absolute winning combination.
    09-01-2013 09:26 PM
  3. fatclue_98's Avatar
    You are correct; I got off topic there. But even so, since Microsoft released an Office app for iOS & Android there's a lot less advantage to have a WP for Office. Even so, there are 3rd party Office apps for iOS & Android that some users report are better than Office on WP. I cannot verify this as I'm not an Office power user on my phone. The only disadvantage is that for iOS & Android's Office app you must have an Office 365 account. As more & more users get one though that will be less of an issue. Once you have the app and log in, all your documents, and SkyDrive, are available inside the app. And talking of productivity, WP's email restrictions alone are enough to cause someone to look elsewhere. Not to mention no VPN support, and a very poor Skype app. My company uses Lync, and we have users of all 3 platforms using the Lync app. There's no difference there between Android, iPhone, and WP in usefulness or performance.

    I don't believe that overall WP has any advantage over the others in productivity, maybe with the exception of a few very specific situations. My boss, who is a Microsoft MVP, and a huge WP fan (at least he used to be!), has switched to Android. An iPhone probably every bit as productive, and an Android like a Note II would run circles around either in almost every area. WP has some advantages over the others, but increased productivity is not one of them.
    It's more productive. OneNote. Can't get it anywhere else. If you don't use it as your life saver, you wouldn't understand.

    Yes, there are 3rd party options for Office like Docs To go, Quickoffice and others. SmartOffice (when used on webOS) is the closest. I have it on my work-issued iPhone 5 and it's nowhere near as good as the webOS version, much less MS Office. SkyDrive is available on iOS and Android but again, not as complete as native SkyDrive (no access to OneNote). I've tried EverNote on Android & webOS and it won't replace OneNnote anytime soon. It's popular with the Apple & Android crowd for the obvious reason, but it's not in the same league.
    09-01-2013 09:32 PM
  4. thatotherdude24's Avatar
    It's more productive. OneNote. Can't get it anywhere else. If you don't use it as your life saver, you wouldn't understand.

    Yes, there are 3rd party options for Office like Docs To go, Quickoffice and others. SmartOffice (when used on webOS) is the closest. I have it on my work-issued iPhone 5 and it's nowhere near as good as the webOS version, much less MS Office. SkyDrive is available on iOS and Android but again, not as complete as native SkyDrive (no access to OneNote). I've tried EverNote on Android & webOS and it won't replace OneNnote anytime soon. It's popular with the Apple & Android crowd for the obvious reason, but it's not in the same league.

    Why do you think OneNote is so good? Honest question...
    09-01-2013 09:35 PM
  5. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Why do you think OneNote is so good? Honest question...
    For one, multiple voice dictations in one note. Second, the ability to retrieve it through SkyDrive. Third, being able to convert Journal ink notes into text on my desktop and saving back into SkyDrive.

    Nothing wrong with your question, that's what this community is supposed to be all about. If you start using OneNote and you really like it, didn't a complete stranger make your life easier?
    09-01-2013 09:51 PM
  6. thatotherdude24's Avatar
    For one, multiple voice dictations in one note. Second, the ability to retrieve it through SkyDrive. Third, being able to convert Journal ink notes into text on my desktop and saving back into SkyDrive.

    Nothing wrong with your question, that's what this community is supposed to be all about. If you start using OneNote and you really like it, didn't a complete stranger make your life easier?

    I've played around with Evernote......okay, downloading is the farthest I've gotten. How does OneNote compare to Evernote?
    09-01-2013 09:53 PM
  7. tgp's Avatar
    It's more productive. OneNote. Can't get it anywhere else. If you don't use it as your life saver, you wouldn't understand.

    Yes, there are 3rd party options for Office like Docs To go, Quickoffice and others. SmartOffice (when used on webOS) is the closest. I have it on my work-issued iPhone 5 and it's nowhere near as good as the webOS version, much less MS Office. SkyDrive is available on iOS and Android but again, not as complete as native SkyDrive (no access to OneNote). I've tried EverNote on Android & webOS and it won't replace OneNnote anytime soon. It's popular with the Apple & Android crowd for the obvious reason, but it's not in the same league.
    OneNote has been on the other platforms for ages.

    Sent from my Nexus 4
    09-01-2013 09:58 PM
  8. fatclue_98's Avatar
    OneNote has been on the other platforms for ages.

    Sent from my Nexus 4
    Yes, but not with the same features. The free version is good for about 500 notes, if I'm not mistaken, then you have to pay the man. It's just not the same, I've tried them. If you wish to include Windows Mobile 5 & 6.x as other platforms, that's really splitting hairs.
    09-01-2013 10:10 PM
  9. dqgeek's Avatar
    The Office apps on WP are free, no Office 365 subscription required and save automatically to SkyDrive. If you get the Office 365 apps on other platforms, you'll need to have an Office 365 subscription.
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    09-01-2013 10:25 PM
  10. iamtim's Avatar
    Yes, but not with the same features.
    Amen to that. When the Nexus 7 first came out I had one of those for a month or so and I used the Android OneNote app. To call it a subset would be generous.

    It may have changed since then, I don't know.
    09-02-2013 12:26 PM
  11. bawboh86's Avatar
    OneNote also allows for live collaboration with others, without having to go into a browser. If they have OneNote, they can edit the doc along with you, including adding more voice dictations, images, lists, etc (I use OneNote, and it's a god send, if you ask me).
    09-02-2013 11:11 PM
  12. thatotherdude24's Avatar
    Are the Office apps free in skydrive? King of like Google Docs?
    09-02-2013 11:23 PM
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