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  1. robinleck's Avatar
    Curiously, just my observation, looks like all these major mobile players are heading in the long term in some kind of strategic direction with a very similar theme. That is, individual mobile OS platforms having their own housebrand smartphone... examples :

    Apple/iPhone
    Google/Motorola aka android
    Samsung/Tizen in a forseeable future

    and now, our beloved Gatecrasher and I mean it in most positively complimentary term...

    Microsoft/Nokia Windows Phone.

    Just my thought.
    09-03-2013 01:08 AM
  2. Reflexx's Avatar
    As I said, MS can use Nokia patents.

    They don't have exclusivity, except when it comes to using the Nokia name on wireless devices. For the Nokia name, they have a 30 month exclusivity.
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    09-03-2013 01:10 AM
  3. Reflexx's Avatar
    So overall Nokia will fully focus on NSN, HERE and technology innovation? Does micorosft have the hardware innovation? The kind of technology innovation that Nokia has provided in
    1) Camera Department (Example PureView cameras)
    2) Touchscreen (Amazing screen of Lumia 920 and 1020)
    3) Hardware Design (polycarbonate body used with Lumia devices) and
    4) Navigation
    Microsoft is not even close. MS is completely into software. Without Nokia's technology innovation, their mobile business handled to MS cannot survive. Although MS might handle the marketing, distribution and production process
    MS has the whole devices and services division, including the R&D.

    But MS has an amazing R&D division in its own right.
    09-03-2013 01:13 AM
  4. Polkka's Avatar
    Finnish designers are not going to be happy about this... Nokia buy jolla!
    09-03-2013 01:14 AM
  5. Reflexx's Avatar
    The part I do not get is the fact the a large part of Nokia phone business are "dumb phones" mainly to emerging markets. Does MS want this side of the business? I know Nokia and MS are pushing smart phones to these markets but I still see "dumb phones" as commercially viable for some time to come. May we see resales of these less sexy parts of the business to someone else like a Huawei or Samsung?
    That's a huge market that MS can use to transition people to WP.
    09-03-2013 01:15 AM
  6. smoledman's Avatar
    MS has the whole devices and services division, including the R&D.

    But MS has an amazing R&D division in its own right.
    If it's so amazing than why do they get much less ROI than Apple?
    09-03-2013 01:17 AM
  7. Reflexx's Avatar
    If it's so amazing than why do they get much less ROI than Apple?
    Marketing.
    09-03-2013 01:18 AM
  8. teckris's Avatar
    Dream on, I have a hard time believing that Finnish engineers relish the idea of working for Microsoft. They have their pride.
    What else we could do than Dreaming. Its not my company that I could control. Just move with the flow man.. :)
    09-03-2013 01:19 AM
  9. smoledman's Avatar
    Marketing.
    Really? You think that the Surface RT just needed better marketing and it would have sold all 6 million units?
    09-03-2013 01:21 AM
  10. maverick786us's Avatar
    I m not understanding this. :P
    does the Hardware and service division not contain the Phone Development? the Design team is to be transferred to MS, so how the Design will loose innovation.

    I think the MS will retain the exclusivity of Nokia phones and will give the team enough cash support to produce Great devices :D
    The best approach would have been, that the design and innovative team, their R&D team should have been intact with Nokia, but their production, sales and distrubution should have been handled to MS, with profit shared depending on their terms and condition.

    Right now with design team is to be transferred to MS, I don't know how they will perform under the will of MS, there is a possibility that the whole design team might quit or anything could happen
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    09-03-2013 01:23 AM
  11. smoledman's Avatar
    The best approach would have been, that the design and innovative team, their R&D team should have been intact with Nokia, but their production, sales and distrubution should have been handled to MS, with profit shared depending on their terms and condition.

    Right now with design team is to be transferred to MS, I don't know how they will perform under the will of MS, there is a possibility that the whole design team might quit or anything could happen
    I think the entire design team will quit and go to Jolla/Sailfish.
    09-03-2013 01:31 AM
  12. Reflexx's Avatar
    Really? You think that the Surface RT just needed better marketing and it would have sold all 6 million units?
    If it had amazing Steve Jobs style marketing, then hell yes.

    Apple doesn't spend much on R&D. They don't put that big a focus on it compared to companies like MS and Nokia. But Apple has had tremendous success getting people to think their products are magical.

    MS's R&D is utterly amazing. But a lot of what they do never makes it into consumer products because they just let the engineers go wild. They come up with stuff that may not be feasible for products at this point in time, but might one day make it into a product years from now.
    09-03-2013 01:32 AM
  13. Reflexx's Avatar
    I think the entire design team will quit and go to Jolla/Sailfish.
    Maybe a few people. But most won't unless they want to be poor.
    09-03-2013 01:32 AM
  14. teckris's Avatar
    I think the entire design team will quit and go to Jolla/Sailfish.
    Really?? You think they care only for their Passion in Designing? They will also care for JOB.
    09-03-2013 01:33 AM
  15. nitin88's Avatar
    The best approach would have been, that the design and innovative team, their R&D team should have been intact with Nokia, but their production, sales and distrubution should have been handled to MS, with profit shared depending on their terms and condition.

    Right now with design team is to be transferred to MS, I don't know how they will perform under the will of MS, there is a possibility that the whole design team might quit or anything could happen
    I doubt it. If you are following the news, You could have seen several news where all the Lumia phones are designed by Nokia people with the collaboration of Microsoft. You might have thought they are designed by Nokia. Yes, with Nokia putting up prototypes and key design elements and Microsoft testing with the performance and tweaking the hardware.

    For almost 1 year onwards, Nokia and MS employees are working at Nokia Finland center and they are now just like what they will be. Nothing much changes.
    09-03-2013 01:35 AM
  16. psudotechzealot's Avatar
    I see the Anti-Microsoft/Jolia/closet android fanboys are mad over this exciting news.
    robinleck and Impulsive_Mulia like this.
    09-03-2013 01:46 AM
  17. maverick786us's Avatar
    I doubt it. If you are following the news, You could have seen several news where all the Lumia phones are designed by Nokia people with the collaboration of Microsoft. You might have thought they are designed by Nokia. Yes, with Nokia putting up prototypes and key design elements and Microsoft testing with the performance and tweaking the hardware.

    For almost 1 year onwards, Nokia and MS employees are working at Nokia Finland center and they are now just like what they will be. Nothing much changes.
    Yes they are working together. But MS team was totally working on the softwares and driver part to support these high end devies with superb cameras like Lumia 920 and 1020. I am not a ******* Android or IOS fan. I am using Nokia for last 10 years. Right now I own Lumia 920, previously I happened to own Lumia 900, and there are 90% chances that I will buy the successor of Lumia 920, if it has quade core Snapdragon 800, 1080P screen and a 21MP pureview camera.

    I am an optimistic person, so expect things to get better with this deal. But give me reasons to feel happy with this deal?
    09-03-2013 01:53 AM
  18. Polkka's Avatar
    I see the Anti-Microsoft/Jolia/closet android fanboys are mad over this exciting news.
    Microsoft Phone is joke!
    09-03-2013 01:56 AM
  19. teckris's Avatar
    Microsoft Phone is joke!
    So you part of Circus or not?
    09-03-2013 02:05 AM
  20. Polkka's Avatar
    So you part of Circus or not?
    Yep ;) Lumia Surface LOL
    09-03-2013 02:10 AM
  21. teckris's Avatar
    Yep ;) Lumia Surface LOL
    Dont expect just Something from MS NOKIA LUMIA. Hope for Great things, Else we will have no choice in the Mobile OSs.
    09-03-2013 02:14 AM
  22. nautanki_saala's Avatar
    If it's so amazing than why do they get much less ROI than Apple?
    Yes its marketing combined with foolish customers. Apple shows its customers trash features in such a way that those fools feel its great and would again buy a new iPhone. It will say 200 new features. It will be like
    Feature 1 : call filter (which even Symbian has since years!
    Feature 2 : Option to turn off call blocker..
    Feature 3 : sms filter..
    Feature 4: option to turn that..
    Feature 5 : new UI in call sms filter
    And soo on...
    And apple customers are so blind in their own pride that they don't read all this and if they read they just like all this.. And apple knows it.. In reality even Apple is laughing at its customers..

    They wont give basic features and in every new os they announce that now we have added this basic feature. And Apple customers get excited for such stuff!
    This is how Apple is winning. The have their marketshare of fools and they know how to market them.

    Finally taking about build quality, I have seen all Apple customers getting new iPhone within 6 month to a year. While the Nokia handset made of plastic is used for 3-5 years!

    And then their anti-android and anti-windows comments towards handsets. Man Apple doesn't give you variety. Some want big screen, some want loud volume, some want something else. Android and Windows OS come in variety of handsets and the customer gets the handset of his choice. Apple always one crap for all!

    There might be a feature 1 or 2 more in Apple but dude your paying DOUBLE the amount for that little extra. And Im sure that extra will be useless. Finally Android has highest feature only a fool will deny this.

    Many features are lacking in Apple. And its loyal fools say its not needed. Eg : Big screen is not needed. Then why the hell did they increase the screen size in iPhone 5! Realisation of mistake. Now they all brag about bigger screen.

    Its juss that after paying such a big amount, Apple ppl have no choice but to anyhow like the device and try to feel satisfied.

    Mark my words, one day Apple will fall people are becoming smart. And this time Microsoft wont help Apple again to rise like it did in the past when Apple was about to close.

    There are lot more issues with iPhone but im tired of typing now
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    09-03-2013 02:18 AM
  23. nautanki_saala's Avatar
    If it had amazing Steve Jobs style marketing, then hell yes.

    Apple doesn't spend much on R&D. They don't put that big a focus on it compared to companies like MS and Nokia. But Apple has had tremendous success getting people to think their products are magical.

    MS's R&D is utterly amazing. But a lot of what they do never makes it into consumer products because they just let the engineers go wild. They come up with stuff that may not be feasible for products at this point in time, but might one day make it into a product years from now.
    Absolutely Correct ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿ‘
    09-03-2013 02:24 AM
  24. teckris's Avatar
    Mark my words, one day Apple will fall people are becoming smart. And this time Microsoft wont help Apple again to rise like it did in the past when Apple was about to close.
    Dont want to learn More laws [Laws of Gravity].. So if apple has to fall, make sure there is no one under it :D
    09-03-2013 02:28 AM
  25. zack251's Avatar
    Im afraid we wont see anymore Samsung's WP devices.



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    09-03-2013 02:28 AM
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