10-02-2013 02:45 PM
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  1. fatclue_98's Avatar
    When the Nokia acquisition hit the presses and we discussed it here a while back, I called it.

    Ford CEO Mulally on track to lead Microsoft?

    I think it would be a major coup for MS and a big loss for Ford. Mulally is a proven commodity who rights ships by playing to the strengths of companies without resorting to the usual cost-cutting tactics of slashing workforces and limiting options to consumers. Boeing is a stronger company due to his stewardship and the Ford story is one for the ages. Minds like his and Peter Ueberroth's only come once in a generation, MS needs to make this happen.
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    09-27-2013 10:04 AM
  2. gsquared's Avatar
    Well I can think of lots of things to call you. Nostradamus isn't one of them unfortunately.
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    09-27-2013 10:12 AM
  3. martinmc78's Avatar
    When the Nokia acquisition hit the presses and we discussed it here a while back, I called it.

    Ford CEO Mulally on track to lead Microsoft?

    I think it would be a major coup for MS and a big loss for Ford. Mulally is a proven commodity who rights ships by playing to the strengths of companies without resorting to the usual cost-cutting tactics of slashing workforces and limiting options to consumers. Boeing is a stronger company due to his stewardship and the Ford story is one for the ages. Minds like his and Peter Ueberroth's only come once in a generation, MS needs to make this happen.
    Well done Michel.

    Im not fussed who takes over as long as they improve marketing and don't change Balmers plans I will continue to be a happy camper.
    09-27-2013 10:13 AM
  4. Reflexx's Avatar
    He slashed a bunch of Ford subsidiaries.

    It was a good move. But let's not pretend he won't cut divisions.
    09-27-2013 10:37 AM
  5. squire777's Avatar
    Mulally would be terrible for MS in my opinion. His only goal would be to drive up share prices which would mean selling off divisions such as XBox, Skype, and others that he can liquidate fast. Operating a car company and one of the largest tech companies are two different things.
    09-27-2013 10:52 AM
  6. Michael Alan Goff's Avatar
    Why can't we get a good tech guy on board?
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    09-27-2013 11:50 AM
  7. martinmc78's Avatar
    Why can't we get a good tech guy on board?
    A good tech guy that's good with PR.
    09-27-2013 12:00 PM
  8. dkediger's Avatar
    What he cut at Ford - Jaguar, Range Rover, etc. - were recent acquisitions and did not fit into Ford's image or strengths. He hasn't cut any of Ford's key products, you could even argue he's kept and rejuvenated nameplates (Mustang) that the bean counters have been wanting to kill. His timing at Ford has been impeccable, and in the boardroom he has created some order and function out of turf wars and back stabbing. Kind of a "One Microso..." err "One Ford" focus.

    If it came to pass, it wouldn't be a long term stint - he's 68. But probably one of the most respected CEO's in a general sense worldwide.
    09-27-2013 12:14 PM
  9. snowmutt's Avatar
    Let's be honest here: Microsoft is a different animal then Ford. Or Apple. Or Kraft Foods. Or any other company out there. No company has the situation MS is in. The amount of change, the amount of income, the amount of different products, the world wide reach.... MS is a world of it's own. No CEO is walking into this situation and is going to hit the ground running. I do not care if it is an internal candidate who has been in the company for 20 years. This internal candidate will have a strong attachment to the one area he/she was working and will be lost in the 20 or so other areas.

    That being said, MS could sure make a worst decision. Mulally has Ford in the top end of quality as well as sales. I have zero problem with this hireif this is the direction they go. It may not be long term, as a 20 year CEO he will not be. I worry a little that he may not have a smooth transition, but I do not worry he won't be able to smooth this process out for MS. If he leans on the talent that is there (especially on the Enterprise side where MS still makes all their money) and welcomes in and secures the talent from Nokia and mobile side (where MS has the most potential growth) then he could do what he does best- get the ship moving in one direction. But he needs to secure the brightest minds in Redmond and abroad.

    Which is true no matter who the CEO is.
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    09-27-2013 12:16 PM
  10. walter1832's Avatar
    Well, is it Nostradamus or Pennywise? You can't have both.
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    09-27-2013 12:18 PM
  11. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Well, is it Nostradamus or Pennywise? You can't have both.
    That's Mr. Nostradamus to you Alfred. Pennywise is not my name, I just like eating children, they taste like Butterscotch.

    Well I can think of lots of things to call you. Nostradamus isn't one of them unfortunately.
    You can call me anything your little heart desires. But I would prefer Daddy.

    Mulally would be terrible for MS in my opinion. His only goal would be to drive up share prices which would mean selling off divisions such as XBox, Skype, and others that he can liquidate fast. Operating a car company and one of the largest tech companies are two different things.
    Ford was his first foray into the auto business. Mulally came from Boeing where he turned that company 180 degrees. Having good business acumen is the hallmark of any good CEO no matter what industry it is. Identifying strengths and weaknesses within a company is key. Any CEO who governs by simply looking at a P&L sheet won't make it very far (see Leo Apotheker). XBox, and particularly Skype, have brand recognition and Mulally hasn't shown any history of slashing brands in the name of share prices. He brought back the Taurus nameplate as his first act and it paid off. The Focus and Fusion are runaway successes because of the revitalization of the brands.

    Don't kid yourself, this guy knows what he's doing. The Lumia brand WILL be a household name if he has his way.

    Well done Michel.

    Im not fussed who takes over as long as they improve marketing and don't change Balmers plans I will continue to be a happy camper.
    Who's Michel?

    Why can't we get a good tech guy on board?
    Ever heard the saying that any lawyer who represents himself has a fool for a client? I'll admit that MS needs to have a strong leader in the "tech" department who isn't job-scared to tell the boss he's making a mistake. Just be ready to back it up.
    Last edited by rockstarzzz; 09-28-2013 at 06:49 AM.
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    09-27-2013 12:45 PM
  12. Michael Alan Goff's Avatar
    A good tech guy that's good with PR.
    It doesn't matter much how good of a PR person it is, tech writers will still hate Microsoft.

    Ever heard the saying that any lawyer who represents himself has a fool for a client? I'll admit that MS needs to have a strong leader in the "tech" department who isn't job-scared to tell the boss he's making a mistake. Just be ready to back it up.
    There's a non-tech department within Microsoft? I suppose their entertainment division is, but overall it seems primarily a tech company.
    09-27-2013 01:44 PM
  13. fatclue_98's Avatar
    It doesn't matter much how good of a PR person it is, tech writers will still hate Microsoft.



    There's a non-tech department within Microsoft? I suppose their entertainment division is, but overall it seems primarily a tech company.
    Unless MS has totally broken the mold, I'm sure there's Engineering, Accounting, HR, Advertising, Software, Hardware, etc.
    09-27-2013 01:53 PM
  14. martinmc78's Avatar
    Who's Michel?



    Michel.

    First name of Nostradamus. He wasn't just born with a last name parents weren't that cruel even back then
    09-27-2013 01:59 PM
  15. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Michel.

    First name of Nostradamus. He wasn't just born with a last name parents weren't that cruel even back then
    Doh! Homer Simpson moment there.
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    09-27-2013 02:02 PM
  16. Michael Alan Goff's Avatar
    Unless MS has totally broken the mold, I'm sure there's Engineering, Accounting, HR, Advertising, Software, Hardware, etc.
    Software, hardware, and engineering are part of a tech company. Didn't think about the accounting or HR, since I really don't like the idea of accounting telling tech guys what to do. Bean counters should not run Microsoft. Even Ballmer had some tech knowledge going in.
    09-27-2013 02:09 PM
  17. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Software, hardware, and engineering are part of a tech company. Didn't think about the accounting or HR, since I really don't like the idea of accounting telling tech guys what to do. Bean counters should not run Microsoft. Even Ballmer had some tech knowledge going in.
    That's been the crux of my argument for Mulally the whole time. He's not the type to go by numbers exclusively. I'll give you an example of why "experts" in a certain field don't always make good leaders. Former pitchers make the worst pitching coaches in baseball. If you look around the league, the most successful managers are former catchers. They have the best grasp of pitching and see the whole field from a view no one else on the diamond has. In football, it's even more pronounced. Only a handful of former players go on to be successful coaches (Shula, Ditka and maybe Jim Harbaugh).
    09-27-2013 02:21 PM
  18. Michael Alan Goff's Avatar
    That's been the crux of my argument for Mulally the whole time. He's not the type to go by numbers exclusively. I'll give you an example of why "experts" in a certain field don't always make good leaders. Former pitchers make the worst pitching coaches in baseball. If you look around the league, the most successful managers are former catchers. They have the best grasp of pitching and see the whole field from a view no one else on the diamond has. In football, it's even more pronounced. Only a handful of former players go on to be successful coaches (Shula, Ditka and maybe Jim Harbaugh).
    I'm just paranoid of anyone new doing something to the RT program. It's what I'd like to call a keeper.

    What do you think this guy brings to a tech company the size an scope of Microsoft?
    09-27-2013 02:28 PM
  19. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I'm just paranoid of anyone new doing something to the RT program. It's what I'd like to call a keeper.

    What do you think this guy brings to a tech company the size an scope of Microsoft?
    Verifiable results.
    09-27-2013 02:32 PM
  20. Michael Alan Goff's Avatar
    Verifiable results.
    I thought he's just been a CEO at Ford, a car company. I didn't know he's led anything remotely like Microsoft.
    09-27-2013 02:39 PM
  21. dkediger's Avatar
    Look, the guy is educated in aerospace and astronautical engineering. He led the team that designed the digital cockpit in the 767 - usually claimed as the first in commercial craft. He has done nothing but lead teams that have accomplished throughout his career - at all levels. If there are any business organizations that were more byzantine than a broad focused tech like Microsoft, Boeing and Ford would be in that group.

    Its when the leadership of an org starts believing all the press that they are unique and one of a kind and irreplaceable, that's generally when bad things start to happen. Ma Bell in the 70's, Microsoft in the 90's/00, Sun, Novell, Lotus, even Apple and Google in the 2010's. Yes, Apple and Google included. Google from "Don't be Evil" to "Eff It!" Apple refusing to support or innovate for the enterprise.
    09-27-2013 02:43 PM
  22. Reflexx's Avatar
    Doh! Homer Simpson moment there.
    Homer Pennywise Nostradamus
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    09-27-2013 02:44 PM
  23. walter1832's Avatar
    That's Mr. Nostradamus to you Alfred. Pennywise is not my name, I just like eating children, they taste like Butterscotch.
    I'm gathering up the 'Losers' Club' to take you down Pennywise. You won't trick us again!
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    09-27-2013 02:46 PM
  24. Michael Alan Goff's Avatar
    Look, the guy is educated in aerospace and astronautical engineering. He led the team that designed the digital cockpit in the 767 - usually claimed as the first in commercial craft. He has done nothing but lead teams that have accomplished throughout his career - at all levels. If there are any business organizations that were more byzantine than a broad focused tech like Microsoft, Boeing and Ford would be in that group.

    Its when the leadership of an org starts believing all the press that they are unique and one of a kind and irreplaceable, that's generally when bad things start to happen. Ma Bell in the 70's, Microsoft in the 90's/00, Sun, Novell, Lotus, even Apple and Google in the 2010's. Yes, Apple and Google included. Google from "Don't be Evil" to "Eff It!" Apple refusing to support or innovate for the enterprise.
    That's the type of information I was unaware of.
    09-27-2013 02:47 PM
  25. dkediger's Avatar
    I still kind of doubt it will happen because of his age - he's 68 - and I would think he wouldn't want to put in the hours too much longer.
    09-27-2013 02:53 PM
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