11-12-2013 08:59 PM
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  1. luk3ja's Avatar
    you don't understand Nokia is easily worth this much and mostly just because of its patents
    but Nokia's patents aren't for sale, Nokia is keeping all of them and once they have sold the handset division they intend to sue everyone who uses their patents because those companies won't be able to sue them back because they won't sell phones anymore
    Editguy1900 and Dazzi like this.
    10-31-2013 09:02 AM
  2. iAdrian23's Avatar
    I stopped watching the very next second I found out it is "Nokita"... Sounds like a cheap Chinesse manufacturer.
    10-31-2013 09:12 AM
  3. z33dev33l's Avatar
    That sounds awful, Nokia running android? Tried it on my N9 and never again. Nokia is known for quality, not malware and horrid software.
    psudotechzealot likes this.
    10-31-2013 09:24 AM
  4. Tre Lawrence's Avatar
    that sounds awful, nokia running android? Tried it on my n9 and never again. Nokia is known for quality, not malware and horrid software.
    lol.
    10-31-2013 09:44 AM
  5. MacDaMachine's Avatar
    That sounds awful, Nokia running android? Tried it on my N9 and never again. Nokia is known for quality, not malware and horrid software.
    smh
    xandros9 likes this.
    10-31-2013 10:05 AM
  6. z33dev33l's Avatar
    lol.
    When you think Nokia, you think quality, plain and simple.
    10-31-2013 11:31 AM
  7. Bartdog's Avatar
    I think his first premise is incorrect when he says Microsoft will centralize everything to the US. I am given to believe MS will let Nokia run fairly autonomously.
    10-31-2013 12:22 PM
  8. jlzimmerman's Avatar
    I think his first premise is incorrect when he says Microsoft will centralize everything to the US. I am given to believe MS will let Nokia run fairly autonomously.
    MS as with many corporations, are looking globally.....global market. They are not going to centralize. There are several benefits for US companies to keep branches of their business outside the US.
    10-31-2013 12:26 PM
  9. leo74's Avatar
    So a guy who does not reveal his first name, does not show up on any searches online (neither in combination with Nokia, nor anything else he claims to have done) is asking for anything from 5 million to 5 billion with a presentation that would cost me my job would I present it to justify a 500k budget? Sounds like a good investment. LOL seriously... if this is anything but a bad joke, I am seriously surprised..... the data this guy presented are based on hope and wish and not on any sound analysis..... I wouldn't give this guy a penny and I seriously doubt that any serious investor would either....
    sejgiul and Reflexx like this.
    10-31-2013 12:46 PM
  10. TechFreak1's Avatar
    So a guy who does not reveal his first name, does not show up on any searches online (neither in combination with Nokia, nor anything else he claims to have done) is asking for anything from 5 million to 5 billion with a presentation that would cost me my job would I present it to justify a 500k budget? Sounds like a good investment. LOL seriously... if this is anything but a bad joke, I am seriously surprised..... the data this guy presented are based on hope and wish and not on any sound analysis..... I wouldn't give this guy a penny and I seriously doubt that any serious investor would either....
    Hey be generous, maybe half a penny for his troubles :P. if he was that passionate about Nokia why didn't he step in and rally when Nokia was down and out??
    Also I agree with Leo as if any sane person was to present this to a board... they would be thrown out of the window and would end up as a waffle covered in red sauce on the pavement. :p.

    You can't sell to investors with just hopes and dreams.. if that was the case I wouldn't be here at work slaving away 50 hours a week, but on my multi million yacht harbored in my own very private island along with my very one outlaw star 1;1 working replica grappler ship ... well one can hope and dream right? :P
    leo74 and iSicle like this.
    10-31-2013 02:02 PM
  11. Oliver Newell's Avatar
    I am going to sound harsh here but it is Nokias own fault at the end of the day that it has got in the situation it is in today. If they would have kept up with the times and released phones to compete properly with iPhone and android nearly 7 years ago people would have bought them. That is a fact. It's how business works. If you ask me, Microsoft buying Nokia will be a very good move. Windows phone is growing and Nokia has a solid following in emerging markets. Microsoft is not the big bad evil company and they certainly wouldn't ruin Nokia. Its Windows phone which has bought Nokia up to where it is today, producing phones with 41 megapixles is stunning hardware. Its being blown out of proportion.

    Besides which this doesn't make sense as people have already pointed out.
    10-31-2013 03:13 PM
  12. MrCartas's Avatar
    To be honest all Samsung phones look same to me just like iPhone iterations. I've got my hands on most of their phone models and their hardware feels cheap to me.
    I'm sorry to say that I had a Samsung Focus before my Nokia Lumia 820 and I would chose the Focus any day over the 820 if it had Windows Phone 8. I've had my Focus for 3 years and it has never failed "not once" and my 820 broke with in a few weeks of having it, so the "feels cheap" comment does not fit. I'm sorry to say. I liked my Nokia (and I'm stuck with it since I dont have a way to replace it) while it worked, but my Samsung has served me well.
    10-31-2013 05:45 PM
  13. Reflexx's Avatar
    I don't think this project could even get $100k of support using Kickstarter. lol
    10-31-2013 06:44 PM
  14. Jazmac's Avatar
    If nokita thought that much about Nokia, it would have gone after them years ago.
    sueha, teckris and psudotechzealot like this.
    10-31-2013 07:40 PM
  15. techiez's Avatar
    Patents that Nokia is ready to sell for 7 billion.
    Thanks to Elop.
    10-31-2013 10:08 PM
  16. alv3st3r's Avatar
    I'm sorry to say that I had a Samsung Focus before my Nokia Lumia 820 and I would chose the Focus any day over the 820 if it had Windows Phone 8. I've had my Focus for 3 years and it has never failed "not once" and my 820 broke with in a few weeks of having it, so the "feels cheap" comment does not fit. I'm sorry to say. I liked my Nokia (and I'm stuck with it since I dont have a way to replace it) while it worked, but my Samsung has served me well.
    All I have to say is Good for you.
    10-31-2013 11:43 PM
  17. stalemate1's Avatar
    A part of me would like them to buy it and a part of me wants Microsoft to buy it...ill sit back and see what happens but I just hope Nokia do not loose its support for Windows phone.


    I mean if I had $30 billion I buy Nokia too...na I'd put it in an investment account earning 9% per annum...I'd never work again. Though owning Nokia would be cool though.
    11-01-2013 01:13 AM
  18. rcazador's Avatar
    As a MS Fan I hope this fails. MS needs Nokia badly.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk
    11-01-2013 01:25 AM
  19. AngryNil's Avatar
    Why can't Samsung do it then?
    Samsung is the leading smartphone vendor, it doesn't need to change what the market deems to be acceptable (or in this case, even desirable).
    11-01-2013 02:23 AM
  20. alv3st3r's Avatar
    Samsung is the leading smartphone vendor
    Since this a fact, their design doesn't matter much to the people as long as they keep churning out cheap Galaxy replicas.
    11-01-2013 02:39 AM
  21. rcazador's Avatar
    Samsung is the leading smartphone vendor, it doesn't need to change what the market deems to be acceptable (or in this case, even desirable).
    This sort of thinking killed BlackBerry

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk
    Dazzi likes this.
    11-01-2013 04:18 AM
  22. AngryNil's Avatar
    This sort of thinking killed BlackBerry
    Samsung isn't standing still, it's simply not investing in the aesthetics you prefer because it's been shown that most people don't care.
    11-01-2013 09:29 AM
  23. DJCBS's Avatar
    As I think everyone knows, I'm all for preventing Microsoft to destroy Nokia as they will most certainly do if they get their hands on the D&S.

    However, this project, albeit raising some very valid points, raised me a couple of questions: first of all, is this "Nokita" supposed to take over Nokia? From the video, I got the feeling they were aiming at transforming Nokia into Nokita? If so...that's just as stupid as Microsoft only getting half of Nokia, half that doesn't include one of the most important assets of Nokia: the brand.
    Secondly...Linux phones? Building WP and Android upon a Linux based phone? hmm

    As for the investors they are looking for and the "they won't find them"...hmm won't they? They do have a very valid point: Microsoft is offering way way less than Nokia's D&S is worth. Specially if you have in mind what they paid for Skype.
    Won't they find investors? They may not find them...but they may do.

    Let us think about this for a second: Nokia is prohibited to seek other investors to make an offer to rival Microsoft. However, all they need is to get someone else to do it for them. This Nokita venture may turn out to be a way to clearly allow other interested companies to be able to outbid Microsoft. Has anyone else noted the strange silence coming from Mountain View regarding this entire Nokia/Microsoft thing? With Nokia prepared to jump to Android as they were, how sure can anyone be that Google isn't interested in getting Nokia? It's certainly a better option than Motorola was. Getting Nokia would certainly allow them to reach out way more consumers than Motorola does.
    You'll say: "Google already has Samsung to spread Android". Yeah, sure. But for how long? Samsung has given more than enough signs that they intend to create their own OS. Tizen is the first step. If Samsung finally turns their Android into a new OS, Google will see sales of Android falling hard. Because Samsung will no longer be making Android phones.
    They'll need another company to step in the Android market to ascertain their OS dominance. HTC is an option but Nokia is a tempting and stronger solution for that, seeing how many old and current Nokia owners claim for Android Nokia, together with the more established Nokia D&S.

    So...lets not dismiss this "Nokita" initiative so quickly...we never know who may show up from the shadows to put in the money.
    11-01-2013 11:45 AM
  24. z33dev33l's Avatar
    Why does everyone here hate Microsoft so much? For the past 6 years or so they've been the good guys
    11-01-2013 11:58 AM
  25. Reflexx's Avatar
    Anyone who thinks it would be a good idea to invest millions of dollars into an unproven group isn't thinking straight.

    They won't be getting any money unless it's from some trust fund babies who have never worked a day jn their lives and dropped out of high school and sit around all day high on drugs.
    11-01-2013 12:04 PM
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