12-10-2013 04:18 AM
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  1. Ahmed Hassan7's Avatar
    There is a new OS called sailfish OS created by jola there first mobile is high end and is for 400 the OS is a combination between WP and Android and it has licensed Nokia here maps , do you think it is a threat on WP ?
    ilovenokia likes this.
    12-03-2013 05:17 PM
  2. Indistinguishable's Avatar
    12-03-2013 05:28 PM
  3. 12Danny123's Avatar
    unfortunately for them. No it won't. why?? because competition is VERY stiff. The only top OSes are WP, IOS and Android. They will have to get through Microsoft, Apple and Google which are titans to become one. though I can see them competing with BB for 4th place
    12-03-2013 05:53 PM
  4. Speedygi's Avatar
    You forgot Blackberry.
    cckgz4 likes this.
    12-04-2013 12:15 AM
  5. Speedygi's Avatar
    Seriously on a mobile landscape where even third place is an almost impossible endeavor, I don't see how any new platform can compete. Firefox OS has competition though now at least, haha.
    snowmutt and xandros9 like this.
    12-04-2013 12:17 AM
  6. snowmutt's Avatar
    Nope. Sorry, Jolla. I respect you, and hope this works. But:

    -How can they compete with the face pace of mobile on such a small budget? They will need to keep their device life cycle out much longer then the average manufacturer. No way they can keep up.

    -Who develops for it? Being able to sideload Android apps is fine, but if you want Android apps, you will buy an Android. You can't use someone elses strength as a reason to buy your devices. If Sailfish doesn't have unique offerings, then there is less chance to grab your own audience.

    -What markets do you fight for? You can't do a huge rollout- you need to build an audience where your best chances are. Has Jolla got a handle on that?

    -How do you market it? How do you sell a new OS? The casual user isn't interested in something new just for the sake of it. You need to convince them.

    Add it all up, it is a nice attempt from a company that may be profitable but in a very limited range. If they hit 2% in 2 years, I would be stunned.
    12-04-2013 12:26 AM
  7. 12Danny123's Avatar
    Seriously on a mobile landscape where even third place is an almost impossible endeavor, I don't see how any new platform can compete. Firefox OS has competition though now at least, haha.
    oh yea. true. but judging on the power of Microsoft, Apple and Google. probably not a good place for BB right now
    12-04-2013 01:22 AM
  8. Speedygi's Avatar
    To be completely frank, I don't think Blackberry can ever beat the giant ecosystems of today. But, you know what, they have brand equity that not many other mobile device manufacturers have. Let's put it this way, I don't see them as a third player but a manufacturer catering to the niches it appeals to, namely physical keyboard lovers and those who value productivity more than anything else.
    12-04-2013 04:00 AM
  9. psudotechzealot's Avatar
    12-04-2013 04:55 AM
  10. N1NJ4K1LL3R's Avatar
    Looks as if they have taken a few design cues from Apple, BlackBerry and Windows phone, All sort of rolled into one incoherent mess. Jolla can keep their misguided open source bull**** ideas cause people aren't buying it.
    12-04-2013 10:14 AM
  11. palandri's Avatar
    It's just another android variation. Now if it ran Symbian 4, then it might be a threat because there are still a lot of hardcore Symbian fans out there.
    12-04-2013 10:33 AM
  12. radmanvr's Avatar
    unfortunately for them. No it won't. why?? because competition is VERY stiff. The only top OSes are WP, IOS and Android. They will have to get through Microsoft, Apple and Google which are titans to become one. though I can see them competing with BB for 4th place
    I think it will compete with firefox os for 5th place.
    12-04-2013 10:56 AM
  13. JamesDax's Avatar
    LMAO!!! No.
    12-04-2013 05:41 PM
  14. AngryNil's Avatar
    Actually, the HERE licensing stuff is interesting to me. Nokia is also providing mapping for Tizen. Are they contractually tied to offer Windows Phone a good version of HERE, or could we end up with a pretty bleak roadmap with the company trying to support something like five platforms?

    I feel Microsoft should be driving cars around the globe ASAP – be the master of your own destiny and all that. Oh, and offer turn-by-turn navigation in your default Maps app, because every other operating system does. My opinion is that Nokia's current data is subpar and they don't have the resources to catch up to Google, and I believe I've previously heard someone (Rubino?) say that Microsoft isn't really impressed with HERE either.
    12-04-2013 07:18 PM
  15. fdalbor's Avatar
    There is far too much competition out there already. Even if it was great and better than all the other OS's out there it would not stand a chance. This is the wrong business to be trying to get into right now. If Apple was just trying to start out right now even they would not stand a chance. Apple took a GAINT gamble when they came out with the Iphone. It could have just as easily drove them into the ground. But it was the right time and they had a good product. But the big thing is they had very little competition. Most people were using feature phones. For that matter there is still a big portion of cell phone users that only buy feature phones. I really believe in time WP8 will pass them or at least duke it out with them for second place. The pie can only be sliced SOOOOO thin.
    12-04-2013 08:04 PM
  16. Speedygi's Avatar
    Right, and if anyone needs any reminder why this market is cut-throat, they should always remember Palm and WebOS...
    Laura Knotek and rakesh1995 like this.
    12-04-2013 09:05 PM
  17. Jazmac's Avatar
    Sailfish OS a threat? Its not even a threat to DOS.
    12-04-2013 09:17 PM
  18. Dadstar0410's Avatar
    Sailfish OS a threat? Its not even a threat to DOS.
    Hahaha even CP/M can run circles around Sailfish.
    12-04-2013 09:34 PM
  19. rakesh1995's Avatar
    Lets see.
    2014
    We have
    Android
    IOS
    Windows phone
    Fire fox
    Sailfish
    Tizen
    Ubuntu
    Bb10

    All of them except iOS and wp can run android apps.

    Also why some one is going to buy a Jolla? You get to sideload android apps in bb10 also. And the price of z10 is near Jolla gives better build and display.

    On other side
    (Interesting fact)-you can install Jolla sailfish in any android device. Most android never gets updated. People might just load Jolla to run latest apps of android. This might give them a biger base.

    Also no one should underestimate Jolla. There are former nokia guys. They are one of the best designers and programmers in world.
    Also where did the hell they got money to make a os and develop it for 2 year.
    Make a factory and make their own branded phones.
    Spend money on advertisement
    Also money to license here maps?

    Its a huge amount of money....$$₹₹

    I suspect nokia funding.

    Nokia might surprise us by buying Jolla in 2016 and returning to mobile division

    Sent from my Uuusumm Lumia 520 using Tapatalk
    HaibaneReki likes this.
    12-04-2013 10:14 PM
  20. 12Danny123's Avatar
    Sailfish OS a threat? Its not even a threat to DOS.
    dude. You made my day man XD hahaha
    snowmutt and Jazmac like this.
    12-04-2013 11:22 PM
  21. smoledman's Avatar
    Tizen has a better chance due to Samsung's boundless cash reserves.
    snowmutt likes this.
    12-05-2013 01:26 AM
  22. HaibaneReki's Avatar
    I for one am rooting for them. I was stunned when I first handled the N9 and it was basically the reason I then looked into the L800 and got hooked to WP!
    Vistaus likes this.
    12-05-2013 01:29 AM
  23. taymur's Avatar
    The WP OS is climbing the ladder not only because its good, But the amount that MS and NOKIA spent on marketing is insane! you can almost see the OS in every ad space there is. Which inevitably is going to get people trying, after trying, if it was good then you get the barrel rolling.

    What about iPhone and Android. in my country, we first heard about the iPhone when it was already the iPhone 3gs lol. android was only discovered through the SGs2. you can see how late this is from when those both platforms started and contrast it against WP, where the platform became noticeable since the Lumia 920, (the second generation of the platform).

    So until Sailfish can throw at least the same amount of cash, I'm not worried.

    That is my opinion though.
    snowmutt and HaibaneReki like this.
    12-05-2013 02:50 AM
  24. Nokia Boy's Avatar
    Well no,they tried to combine WP8 and Android but it's not good idea... I wouldn't buy it.
    12-05-2013 08:28 AM
  25. Vistaus's Avatar
    The WP OS is climbing the ladder not only because its good, But the amount that MS and NOKIA spent on marketing is insane! you can almost see the OS in every ad space there is. Which inevitably is going to get people trying, after trying, if it was good then you get the barrel rolling.

    What about iPhone and Android. in my country, we first heard about the iPhone when it was already the iPhone 3gs lol. android was only discovered through the SGs2. you can see how late this is from when those both platforms started and contrast it against WP, where the platform became noticeable since the Lumia 920, (the second generation of the platform).

    So until Sailfish can throw at least the same amount of cash, I'm not worried.

    That is my opinion though.
    Marketing isn't everything. We have 2 supermarkets in the mall here, they're on the same level regarding everything. One does a hell of a lot marketing and they get such a low amount of customers, they're now moving out of the mall because of that. Meanwhile, the other supermarket doesn't do any marketing. No ads, no nothing. Yet, most supermarket shoppers go there.
    (did I mention that the one *with* marketing is from the oldest supermarket chain in the country thus established big time?)

    If you still think marketing works, well, I'm sorry to hear that. But in the case of the supermarkets here it's pretty clear that the one without marketing gets almost all of the customers so marketing isn't the answer per se, though it *can* help.
    12-05-2013 10:50 AM
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