02-10-2014 02:09 AM
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  1. errole's Avatar
    What is everyone opinion on this and also Microsoft putting all there services on IOS and Android? Where will this leave consumers?

    Two Microsoft Shareholders Want Satya Nadella to Kill Xbox, Bing, and Surface
    latetothepalmparty likes this.
    02-05-2014 06:31 PM
  2. TechAbstract's Avatar
    lol, aren't all those divisions making money currently?
    02-05-2014 06:38 PM
  3. darkest.white's Avatar
    Sorry, not gunna happen :P Xbox has been a cash cow. Surfaces have been selling very very well now and Bing, well I'm no fan, but they are continuously developing it
    snowmutt likes this.
    02-05-2014 06:44 PM
  4. dkediger's Avatar
    This is what will likely be the toughest part of the transition - resisting such demands- and one reason I think Gates is being brought off the sidelines.

    I think its a short sighted and self serving strategy by the investment groups behind those board members.

    A unique aspect of Microsoft is their presence in both consumer and enterprise. If they can successfully pull off a meet in the middle approach, with devices like WP/Surface and services like Office Online/Office 365 it'll pay off tremendously. I'd even like to see them do something enterprise focused with XBox hardware.
    snowmutt and a5cent like this.
    02-05-2014 07:04 PM
  5. dba415's Avatar
    lol, aren't all those divisions making money currently?
    They aren't as profitable as the enterprise. I imagine they could sell those divisions then just concentrate on their most profitable business line and be better off.
    02-05-2014 08:11 PM
  6. Reflexx's Avatar
    They aren't as profitable as the enterprise. I imagine they could sell those divisions then just concentrate on their most profitable business line and be better off.
    Better off... in the short term.

    XBOX, Bing, and Surface are all related to long-term strategy.

    Some shareholders are just greedy and want to make a quick buck. They couldn't care less if MS went down the tubes 5 years from now.
    02-05-2014 08:14 PM
  7. RJ Priest's Avatar
    Shareholders are poison. Limitless greed, never satisfied, always putting their insatiable lust for increasingly larger profits over the long term viability and well being of a company and the employees of the company. :(
    rmeigs, James8561, hagjohn and 2 others like this.
    02-05-2014 08:35 PM
  8. 5150 Joker's Avatar
    I think MS should definitely sell Xbox but keep mobile and Bing. Bing and IE are integral to Microsoft ecosystem but Xbox is just a waste of time and resources. Let Sony and Nintendo fight for those scraps while MS stays laser focused on the PC platform, enterprise and devices and services.

    Sent from my Yellow Nokia 1520 (RM-937)
    02-06-2014 12:05 AM
  9. snowmutt's Avatar
    XBOX is interesting in that it does make money, but it is the brand recognition MS is using, XBOX brings to mind a younger generation then what MS usually has access to.

    Surface is fine. Tablets will at one point become the single largest mobile personal computer, and bailing on that market would be dumb. The Surface line needs to be premium though.

    Bing is the service i do not think people truly understand. It is not just a search engine,although it is a good one. It is Microsofts "data coordinator" that is incorporated through it's massive infrastructure into almost all it's device. Like XBOX gamming online? Looking excitedly to Cortana virtual assistant? Like Local Scout on your maps? Just a couple of examples of Bing at work. It is used in MS cloud-based business intellegence bundles, and also Office 365 intergrations.

    Of these three, Bing is by FAR the most valuble, especially after nearly 6 years of investments in it.

    So long as MS intends to make continued gains in the consumer field (and all indications is that the new CEO will have free reign to decide how that is to happen, but would not have been hired unless he/she agreed to make it happen, and Mr. Nadella made a point to emphasis during his first presentation that he viewed consumer market as vital), then you can not shed XBOX.

    You could live without Surface. Other OEM would provide Windows 8 tablets just fine. But if you are going all in by buying Nokia for smartphones anyways, why not make a tablet line and enjoy the profits?
    02-06-2014 03:38 AM
  10. snowmutt's Avatar
    Shareholders are poison. Limitless greed, never satisfied, always putting their insatiable lust for increasingly larger profits over the long term viability and well being of a company and the employees of the company. :(
    They are only poison if you allow them to be. And with Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer the majority owners of stock, MS is in no way in a position where the stockholders have enough "stroke" to throw a hissy fit and force short term, knee-jerk reactions. Microsoft is enjoying the best of both worlds: They get their money, but only answer to them as a matter of respect.

    I mentioned Bing in my post above. What other company could invest in something for 6 years before it turns a profit and get away with it without an uprising? XBOX investments, Windows Phone investments, and now the purchase of Nokia?

    Stockholders are just placeholders at MS. They can huff and puff all they want. Mostly, all they can do is sell their shares and get out. Most don't. That says something.
    02-06-2014 03:45 AM
  11. DBZo07's Avatar
    As a company, MSFT has object of business. They don't pay dividend cz they want to build capital structure for future development, hence long term development is one of their main objects. Such short term wants of shareholders wont be entertained at first place.

    Sent via Lumia 625 Black
    02-06-2014 10:34 AM
  12. aitt's Avatar
    Isn't this the same BS rumor with Elop? Smh
    02-06-2014 10:48 AM
  13. DennisvdG's Avatar
    AAHHHHJAJAJAJAJAAHHAAHAHAHAAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHJAHAHAHAHAJAJAAHAHAHAHAHAJAAAHAHHQIWRODKELRPDP.

    Just no.
    02-06-2014 10:54 AM
  14. Lance_WPCentral's Avatar
    The share holders who took this decision are short sighted. Their mind is on quick revenue and that's it. They fail to see down the line that the mentioned 3 services would get them huge profits if invested into properly.

    Thank god they didn't Satya Nadella to kill the Windows Phone division. I would have got a mild heart attack and fainted. :P The reason being I just sold my L520 and got a L1320.

    I don't really think any of the requested would be granted by the board of directors. The share holders who demanded this can sell off their shares and go to scroogle. ;)
    02-06-2014 11:02 AM
  15. Coreldan's Avatar
    To be honest I feel it would be likelier for them to kill WP than any of the mentioned ones :P

    And I think Xbox has special value in the sense that it has a far different target audience than most of what MS provides, thus it reels in a new segment of people to the ecosystem. That.. plus I love Xbox One :P
    snowmutt likes this.
    02-06-2014 11:17 AM
  16. radmanvr's Avatar
    lolwhat
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    02-06-2014 01:50 PM
  17. jlzimmerman's Avatar
    Isn't this the same BS rumor with Elop? Smh
    Yep.

    Xbox takes losses up front, gets moneyz down the road.
    02-06-2014 02:15 PM
  18. taymur's Avatar
    Satya said that Microsoft is all about Cloud and Mobile. So most probably we will be seeing more Microsoft Cloud Services, and more Microsoft Mobile Hardware.
    02-06-2014 02:24 PM
  19. rmeigs's Avatar
    Shareholders are poison. Limitless greed, never satisfied, always putting their insatiable lust for increasingly larger profits over the long term viability and well being of a company and the employees of the company. :(
    Spot on! Wish I could triple "like" your comment. Telling Microsoft to sell Xbox, Bing and Surface is like telling Google to sell Android, Nexus, and Chromebook. They are important parts to a long-term strategy.
    02-06-2014 03:13 PM
  20. Reflexx's Avatar
    Shareholders are not poison. Shareholders are invested owners.

    In a company like Microsoft, there are thousands of shareholders, each with varying degrees of involvement and money invested. They are people with different opinions.

    There is a minority that wants a quick buck and don't care about the future of the company.

    Don't judge all "shareholders" on the minority.
    snowmutt likes this.
    02-06-2014 04:31 PM
  21. Angry_Mushroom's Avatar
    Of course... why don't we get rid of WP8 while we're at it.
    02-06-2014 04:38 PM
  22. rockstarzzz's Avatar
    Satya said that Microsoft is all about Cloud and Mobile. So most probably we will be seeing more Microsoft Cloud Services, and more Microsoft Mobile Hardware.
    No. He said Mobile and Cloud. Mobile first and then cloud. :p
    02-06-2014 05:01 PM
  23. bilzkh's Avatar
    I wonder what Microsoft's long-term strategy with Xbox is... Will it remain as hardware or will it evolve/transition an online platform that streams games (as well as music, videos, original content, etc) across platforms? I suspect, especially with the "Mobile First. Cloud First" strategy, Xbox may be heading down that path.

    Bing is integral technology for Microsoft, they won't sell it.

    As for Surface, it's a hedge against the OEMs. With Sony out of the PC business, we have one less design-centric and innovation-for-innovation's sake contributor to the PC industry. Others, e.g. HP, Acer and Lenovo, are spreading their eggs across Chrome and Android. The Surface is a necessity. Sure, Microsoft need not go overboard with design and R&D, perhaps stick to COTS and more basic (but still compelling and distinctive) designs. Alongside the current Surface tablets I'd add a desktop box and a standard touchscreen ultrabook clamshell.
    snowmutt likes this.
    02-06-2014 05:13 PM
  24. Jazmac's Avatar
    Which is why neither one was named CEO.
    rmeigs and snowmutt like this.
    02-06-2014 05:54 PM
  25. Moiz Mian's Avatar
    Which is why neither one was named CEO.
    I don't think most board members are even experienced enough to run a tech company. They are usually from the financial/economics background. You ideally want someone with an engineering background to run a software/technology company
    02-06-2014 07:31 PM
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