04-05-2014 08:26 PM
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  1. colinkiama's Avatar
    Google hangouts vs Skype, google play vs windows phone store xbox music vs play music play games vs xbox live google vs bing. Microsoft are directly competing with google. Google are taking over. They even have google + which competes with twitter & Facebook. I don't think Microsoft need to catch up, i think they need to over take, dominate, innovate. Playing catch up is not enough.
    03-22-2014 06:31 PM
  2. Blade800's Avatar
    I wouldnt consider Google + as a competition. And never heard of play music or play games.
    2tomtom, eric12341, Jazmac and 2 others like this.
    03-22-2014 07:08 PM
  3. WanderingTraveler's Avatar
    Well, you're right. I'm just thinking that Microsoft banked a bit too much on Windows, and as such, under Satya Nadella, are shifting to an OS-agnostic focus.

    If you don't understand what I mean, that means they're focusing on improving the online experience.
    Guytronic and Blake Quartly like this.
    03-22-2014 07:27 PM
  4. Ramazan Bilgin's Avatar
    Google's unveiling a smartwatch. There is rumor that apple may launch iWatch. I wonder why microsoft is always step behind those companies ??
    03-22-2014 07:30 PM
  5. smoledman's Avatar
    What is the point of this thread? Much will be revealed April 2nd. Cool your jets.
    03-22-2014 07:48 PM
  6. romeguy's Avatar
    Google's unveiling a smartwatch. There is rumor that apple may launch iWatch. I wonder why microsoft is always step behind those companies ??
    MS had a smartwatch over a decade ago. Kinda like they've had tablets since about 2001.
    03-22-2014 07:58 PM
  7. SSgt Bruskowiz's Avatar
    Is it just me, but i see more and more "flame" topics lately.
    If you dont like the ecosystem than go find a other one
    I am not a fan of any OS, but it gives what i need.
    Its just a Phone, if i want a watch i buy a seiko
    I dont want to walk around al wiredup like somekind of a puppet on a string.

    Inovation does not mean that you have to push every new thingy on the market.
    How many Droid phones has failed over the years?
    Look in al the other fora, problems all over.
    Not only Droid, Ios also...........just like WP, and is it not the OS then its the hardware.
    There is no holy grail.

    All these inapp chatsapps are hardly used.
    Most people hang on what they are used to.
    Here its Whatsapp, Telegram, Viber.................
    Microsoft had Messenger, and i due believe that they abandend it.......i am not sure about that.
    The mainstream uses thirdparty apps
    So why reinventing the wheel if people not going to use them.

    MS has a firm grip on the market with the Windows Operating systems.
    Ofcourse with ups and downs, but stil its never defeated.

    I crossed over because i was curious and i was tired of bughunting, trying make my expencive phone work like i wanted to.
    No suddent reboots or forced closings, and tried different roms to make it my own.
    Its fun to do, but if i buy something, it should work right out of the box without tweaking.
    Nokia has a little cheap phone called 520, even with the low specs it works great and snappy.
    Try that with a droid phone with the same specs or price.
    Cant speak for Apples ios, they dont have a real budgetline...........not for my wallet.
    And i dont like the ecosystem of Apple, but that does not mean that it is not good, i just dont like it.
    Besides that, i dont want to give more then 300,- max for a phone, i got other hobbys.
    I bought a 1320 for 170, thats about 230$ give or take, i find that pretty expensive ( oke it came with a leather flipcover, otherwise it whas a complete ripoff ).

    There is no road on the tech field that MS havend drove already.
    They had smartphones/pocketpc's, smartwatches, tablets long before al these others.
    I had once at my job a pannel with XP embedded, dont know the brand.
    I remember a docu with Gates about MS and the house of the future, wel thats inovation.
    Apple was just started and Google ???????? a couple of nosepicking teenagers on a schoolyard.

    So if you dont like the MS ecosystem or the way its going, then there are planty of others.

    Amen
    03-22-2014 10:16 PM
  8. Guytronic's Avatar
    Is it just me, but i see more and more "flame" topics lately.
    If you dont like the ecosystem than go find a other one
    <snipped out>
    So if you dont like the MS ecosystem or the way its going, then there are planty of others.

    Amen
    Lol
    Pretty good actually read yer whole posting and enjoyed it.
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    03-22-2014 10:51 PM
  9. arifdanials's Avatar
    Google hangouts vs Skype, google play vs windows phone store xbox music vs play music play games vs xbox live google vs bing. Microsoft are directly competing with google. Google are taking over. They even have google + which competes with twitter & Facebook. I don't think Microsoft need to catch up, i think they need to over take, dominate, innovate. Playing catch up is not enough.
    I'm pretty sure more consumers and developers will be interested in Windows Phone 8.1 that is soon will be announced at or after build 2014.
    03-23-2014 06:23 AM
  10. T Moore's Avatar
    I'm not missing anything I need.
    03-23-2014 06:32 AM
  11. eruptflail's Avatar
    I think the OP has a point. When it comes to a lot of services, google makes good, free services. Their music service blows Xbox Music out of the water. MS needs to make their services cohesive and their apps need to have permission to hook into the deep levels of the OS.

    Take Onedrive as an example. I should be able to stream music from OneDrive just like I would from Xbox music.

    I will say Xbox live is where they excel, but that's going to die to steam soon.
    03-23-2014 09:09 AM
  12. hs k's Avatar
    It doesn't really matter here in India considering the music service which I can actually use to an extent is Nokia Mixradio on the phone and Accuradio on the laptop. Everything else is Us centric.

    Other than that, Bing services aren't entirely available here. Skype is good. We use viber and whatsapp.

    Even iTunes radio ain't available here.

    It doesn't even matter. Regardless of the Os chosen, if you ain't from the west, you don't get the best.
    03-23-2014 09:36 AM
  13. 2tomtom's Avatar
    These comments make me laugh too. Sure half of them are written by ADdroid or iSheep fans feeling insecure.

    WP will continue to innovate and improve so helping market share. Some won't like WP and move, just as I have no desire to use anything other than WP. But if say iPhone is so amazing and has every app available, why does it have only 19% worldwide market share? So people are choosing smartphones for different reasons, not purely on the number of apps or latest technology alone.

    WP has a solid base of fans and a secure and reliable OS. Once future updates and new devices are released this will encourage new users. So Microsoft IS doing more than catch up, but in a logical and planned manor. Google is the best seller at the moment, but beware as Nokia and Blackberry were once, so Google is the one that desperately needs to step up the pace as one mistake could knock them off their perch.
    hs k and Zapella Tiago like this.
    03-23-2014 09:43 AM
  14. Onager1286's Avatar
    I've often thought of posting threads like this but always stop myself - there are too many fanboys on these forums that blindly think Microsoft can do no wrong. I love my 920, Surface, Windows 8.1 desktop, and Xbox 360... but I agree with the OP, MS always seems to be playing catchup.

    For instance, I'm as excited about WP 8.1 as anyone else. It's looking to be an enormous update. But it makes me realize how lackluster an update WP8 was. Cortana will come out 2 YEARS after Google Now, and even longer after Siri. Notification center has been in Android forever, and even Apple adopted it 2 and a half years ago.

    Now we're heading into the era of wearable devices, and look at all the great press Google gets for their Android Wear initiative. Wouldn't it be nice if Microsoft were the one to introduce the world to wearbles on a wide scale? Even services like Xbox Music... nobody has any idea that they exist. Which, by the way, makes no sense considering they're trying to be a devices and services company. They should be advertising these things like crazy. I saw these short and sweet ads playing after the Superbowl for Google Play music, and books, and video. I have literally never seen a commercial for any of Microsoft's entertainment services.

    None of this is to say MS makes crappy products and has crappy services - they're for the most part really good. The trouble is that the competition is also really good, and MS is NEVER the one to lead the charge.
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    03-23-2014 09:51 AM
  15. hs k's Avatar
    These comments make me laugh too. Sure half of them are written by ADdroid or iSheep fans feeling insecure.

    WP will continue to innovate and improve so helping market share. Some won't like WP and move, just as I have no desire to use anything other than WP. But if say iPhone is so amazing and has every app available, why does it have only 19% worldwide market share? So people are choosing smartphones for different reasons, not purely on the number of apps or latest technology alone.

    WP has a solid base of fans and a secure and reliable OS. Once future updates and new devices are released this will encourage new users. So Microsoft IS doing more than catch up, but in a logical and planned manor. Google is the best seller at the moment, but beware as Nokia and Blackberry were once, so Google is the one that desperately needs to step up the pace as one mistake could knock them off their perch.
    You sir, have told the truth. People have the freedom to chose whatever they want.

    Like they say, Marsellus Wallace said,Pride only hurts.

    And as we know, sometimes you fly high, and sometimes you fall down.
    Tom Snyder likes this.
    03-23-2014 09:53 AM
  16. TonyDedrick's Avatar
    I've often thought of posting threads like this but always stop myself - there are too many fanboys on these forums that blindly think Microsoft can do no wrong. I love my 920, Surface, Windows 8.1 desktop, and Xbox 360... but I agree with the OP, MS always seems to be playing catchup.

    For instance, I'm as excited about WP 8.1 as anyone else. It's looking to be an enormous update. But it makes me realize how lackluster an update WP8 was. Cortana will come out 2 YEARS after Google Now, and even longer after Siri. Notification center has been in Android forever, and even Apple adopted it 2 and a half years ago.

    Now we're heading into the era of wearable devices, and look at all the great press Google gets for their Android Wear initiative. Wouldn't it be nice if Microsoft were the one to introduce the world to wearbles on a wide scale? Even services like Xbox Music... nobody has any idea that they exist. Which, by the way, makes no sense considering they're trying to be a devices and services company. They should be advertising these things like crazy. I saw these short and sweet ads playing after the Superbowl for Google Play music, and books, and video. I have literally never seen a commercial for any of Microsoft's entertainment services.

    None of this is to say MS makes crappy products and has crappy services - they're for the most part really good. The trouble is that the competition is also really good, and MS is NEVER the one to lead the charge.
    Pretty much spot on.
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    03-23-2014 09:59 AM
  17. SSgt Bruskowiz's Avatar
    Aren't we mixing the hardware and the os up?
    Hard to say.

    Annyway, i rather see a better smartphone from Nokia/MS then a wearable.
    I would like to see a water and shockproof phone for outdoors.
    2tomtom and Guytronic like this.
    03-23-2014 10:33 AM
  18. 2tomtom's Avatar
    Google's unveiling a smartwatch. There is rumor that apple may launch iWatch. I wonder why microsoft is always step behind those companies ??
    Am I the only one who thinks that smart watches are going the way of 3D Television, massive hype saying its what everyone wants but in reality just does not sell. I have asked everyone I know if they will be buying these watches and not one person says yes, in fact most laugh at the idea.
    03-23-2014 10:57 AM
  19. planoman's Avatar
    These comments make me laugh too. Sure half of them are written by ADdroid or iSheep fans feeling insecure.

    WP will continue to innovate and improve so helping market share. Some won't like WP and move, just as I have no desire to use anything other than WP. But if say iPhone is so amazing and has every app available, why does it have only 19% worldwide market share? So people are choosing smartphones for different reasons, not purely on the number of apps or latest technology alone.

    WP has a solid base of fans and a secure and reliable OS. Once future updates and new devices are released this will encourage new users. So Microsoft IS doing more than catch up, but in a logical and planned manor. Google is the best seller at the moment, but beware as Nokia and Blackberry were once, so Google is the one that desperately needs to step up the pace as one mistake could knock them off their perch.
    As an Android, iPhone and WP user I see fanbois on all sides. In some ways the microsoft supporters are pretty brutal. All the eco systems have their advantages and drawbacks. Android is not just leading, it is dominating right now. If you look at the top selling WP devices you have the 520 and 620 which are lower priced devices so not really the flagship devices. Android has such a fast update cycle on devices, it is hard to keep pace with. I am a bit surprised at the slow rate of WP adoption, especially in the US. Until WP is headed towards 10% market share, it will continue to be low priority for app devs and OEMS.

    I am looking forward to see what 8.1 brings in OS and devices. Hopefully it will jumpstart some growth. So at this point, Android and iOS users really have nothing to be insecure about IMO.
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    03-23-2014 11:21 AM
  20. Jaskys's Avatar
    Google's unveiling a smartwatch. There is rumor that apple may launch iWatch. I wonder why microsoft is always step behind those companies ??
    Step behind? MS had watch lots of years ago, yet there wasn't a demand for such thing. Now they're working on another watch
    03-23-2014 11:26 AM
  21. planoman's Avatar
    Am I the only one who thinks that smart watches are going the way of 3D Television, massive hype saying its what everyone wants but in reality just does not sell. I have asked everyone I know if they will be buying these watches and not one person says yes, in fact most laugh at the idea.
    I think the smart watches have definitely taken off and I see a lot of support for them. Would you feel the same if they worked with WP? I own a pebble and the more I use it the more I like it. There are may times when I prefer to get my notifications on my watch rather than reaching for my phone to check it. One of the sister sites to WP Central is Smartwatchfans. LG and Moto just announced devices using the android wear standard. I am looking forward to hearing more about the Moto 360! I would be interested in a WP smart watch also! And 3D TV is still around, you can just toggle it to use when you want to...at least on the newest TV I purchased. Yep, you guessed it, a SMART TV!
    03-23-2014 11:31 AM
  22. psychotron's Avatar
    For those who may not know, I'm awaiting preorder shipment for a Kreyos Meteor which should arrive next month. Only smartwatch I'm aware of that works with WP. I'll have to do a quick compatibility review when mine shows up.
    03-23-2014 11:46 AM
  23. psychotron's Avatar
    Am I the only one who thinks that smart watches are going the way of 3D Television, massive hype saying its what everyone wants but in reality just does not sell. I have asked everyone I know if they will be buying these watches and not one person says yes, in fact most laugh at the idea.
    I think you may be very much in the minority. Like it or not, wearable tech is becoming a very hot item, in a way that 3D TV never did. I also think that's kind of a poor analogy because 3D TV was pushed by the industry and never got traction, whereas smartwatches are growing in popularity on their own merit. I believe this is a market segment that MS won't be able to ignore much longer
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    03-23-2014 11:51 AM
  24. A895's Avatar
    I agree with the OP. Microsoft is playing catch up, which is never a good position. But, they have some good products and managed to get a good fan base. It also helps that OneDrive and Outlook act as the backbone to all their services. I have two Outlook accounts. One is for my Xbox Live the other is for my Microsoft Services (I tried joining the two together but, that's a different story) which I use all the time. I have a OneDrive with 10GB of storage that I use for all my backups and I use Outlook extensively for my personal email. My only problem is that WP8 is having a hard time coming up in features. I really want to try WP but it is just lacking. The 30 min limit on background apps, the "other storage" problem and lack of a notification center is off putting. Add on the fact that WP is last priority or not a priority at all when it comes to the big names in apps and it is turn off for many. I do have to say I applaud them for putting optimization and speed as a priority in the OS first. It allows low end devices to shine such as the Lumia 520. I hope that WP8.1 fixes a lot of problems but until then I can only say I will continue to be a Microsoft services supporter but I will continue to avoid their mobile operating system and use android instead. I also hope they do something in wearables as well, only time will supply the answers now.
    03-23-2014 12:18 PM
  25. SSgt Bruskowiz's Avatar
    I think you may be very much in the minority. Like it or not, wearable tech is becoming a very hot item,
    /snips/
    whereas smartwatches are growing in popularity on their own merit. I believe this is a market segment that MS won't be able to ignore much longer
    Minority, i think not.
    Not everyone is hooked up 24/7 on the internet and a lot uses only wifi.
    So you need a seperate sim/contract or whatever for your watch or you must always carry arround your phone.
    Same thing for the glasses.
    I for one would feel very uncomphy when someone would glance at me with somekind of glasses.
    And i can imagine that i am not the only one and that there are be a lot of places where they wil not be allowed.
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    03-23-2014 12:34 PM
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