1. oseansaditya's Avatar
    Sometimes I feel like we can only enjoy 512mb ram only with windows phone OS..

    What do you think guys?? share here..
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    05-24-2014 08:02 AM
  2. someonecalledsukhjit's Avatar
    I had a 512 MB RAM android device too and believe me I would have committed suicide out of frustration if I didn't switch to WP.
    bijak_riyandi likes this.
    05-24-2014 08:25 AM
  3. oseansaditya's Avatar
    whoa.. you sound like no other way for us to use WP than the other OS.. interesting.
    05-24-2014 08:44 AM
  4. Makm's Avatar
    I feel like that too... Only if all the games were available for the 512mb devices, life would've rocked!
    HussainJudge likes this.
    05-24-2014 08:53 AM
  5. prasath1234's Avatar
    I had a 512 MB RAM android device too and believe me I would have committed suicide out of frustration if I didn't switch to WP.
    Hey I agree with u but only if u don't no rooting nd installing ram expander.

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    05-24-2014 09:29 AM
  6. Prakhar Mohan1's Avatar
    what`s that suppose to mean.. i can`t understand the "ram expander"...????
    05-24-2014 09:35 AM
  7. prasath1234's Avatar
    Ram expander is an app to increase ram in android by making use of external SD card ๐Ÿƒ.
    05-24-2014 01:38 PM
  8. someonecalledsukhjit's Avatar
    I had rooted my device and installed custom rom too. The ram expanders are just fake. They create cache only in SD partitions which would ultimately slow phone further because it has to use SD card.
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    05-24-2014 02:02 PM
  9. Jordano's Avatar
    I agree. Microsoft excelled in the WP performance; I don't really see how a device like the Lumia 520 would work properly with Android. For now...

    The biggest resource drainer in Android is the Dalvik Runtime, which is basically a virtual machine upon which all apps are executed. We all know that portability minimizes performance, but it's a project decision anyway. What I mean by "for now" is that Google is working on a new runtime environment for Android - ART - and its implementation effectively lower the demand for processor and memory use.

    Alright, it might take a while, but Android will certainly improve its performance on 512 MB RAM devices. Not as well as Windows, since predefined processors give a huge help on building the OS, but better than nowadays. ,
    05-24-2014 02:16 PM
  10. someonecalledsukhjit's Avatar
    I agree. Microsoft excelled in the WP performance; I don't really see how a device like the Lumia 520 would work properly with Android. For now...

    The biggest resource drainer in Android is the Dalvik Runtime, which is basically a virtual machine upon which all apps are executed. We all know that portability minimizes performance, but it's a project decision anyway. What I mean by "for now" is that Google is working on a new runtime environment for Android - ART - and its implementation effectively lower the demand for processor and memory use.

    Alright, it might take a while, but Android will certainly improve its performance on 512 MB RAM devices. Not as well as Windows, since predefined processors give a huge help on building the OS, but better than nowadays. ,
    Till the time they do it, 512 MB devices would already be dead.
    05-24-2014 10:43 PM
  11. Makm's Avatar
    Till the time they do it, 512 MB devices would already be dead.
    You are right. Most of the games nowadays require at least 1gb ram! Except for few, the majority of the ppl seeks for devices with 1gb ram. So even if the OS-es are optimized for 512mb ram, the 3rd party apps wont be that much optimized, specially the games. And the games which are optimized for 512mb ram has crappy graphics! (for eg: Asphalt 8 on 512mb devices) Not all games have crappy graphics though, but a minimum of 1gb ram is highly preferable in every way. So in the near future 512mb devices will become almost extinct.
    05-25-2014 12:15 AM
  12. oseansaditya's Avatar
    they need to add more apps for 512mb ram..
    05-25-2014 02:52 AM
  13. Jan Tomsic's Avatar
    Sometimes I feel like we can only enjoy 512mb ram only with windows phone OS..

    What do you think guys?? share here..
    I don't understand what you're trying to say...
    Are you saying that only useful phones with 512MB RAM are the ones running WP?
    My wife has no problems with her 720, even though it only has 512MB RAM, it can run Wordament, 9gag and news as well as all sorts of messaging and communication. When she just got it (which was 6 months before I got my 925), I barely found any games that wouldn't run on 512MB, and she doesn't care at all, because she doesn't play games on her phone.

    WP is highly optimized for the hardware it runs on, and it performs smoothly and lag free, much like iPhones (5S runs a 1.3GHz dual core). 1GB (or more) RAM only means a bit less loading screens and a couple more games. I don't hear my wife complaining that her 720 would be slow, and I also never hear my brother and his wife complaining about their 620s, which means hardware details are pretty irrelevant when it comes to WP, unless what you mostly do on your phone is run games, then you kinda have to go for Lumia 8 series or higher. I only really chose the 925 for the camera, not so much for other hardware, I'd be perfectly happy with 720 with 925s camera.

    I thing 512MB WPs are a fair deal, and not ripping off people. They offer everything that's smart about a smartphones at low cost, and for those who want to game on the go on a budget, I'd suggest getting a used PSP 3000 off ebay, they start at as low as 50$
    bijak_riyandi and praveen9663 like this.
    05-25-2014 03:09 AM
  14. Jan Tomsic's Avatar
    they need to add more apps for 512mb ram..
    Apps aren't really a problem, it's just games, and they need quite heavy optimization to run on half the ram they were designed for, and since game companies only look for a quick buck (10 releases of the same game just with a different main character, etc), they don't really care because it's easier just releasing a game to Android.
    05-25-2014 03:11 AM
  15. Jordano's Avatar
    Till the time they do it, 512 MB devices would already be dead.
    Maybe. But, in order to optimize your software to a minimum hardware specification, you need to go as lower as possible. What I mean is: if Google manages to put Android to work well on 512 MB RAM devices, higher powered devices will have a much better performance than they would've if the low standard was higher than 512 MB RAM.
    05-25-2014 08:10 AM
  16. travis_valkyrie's Avatar
    Literally answering the question, yes, I think Microsoft has been fair with 512MB devices. They're getting everything the 8.1 update has to offer (may vary), and it should. The app situation is another story. Everything can't run on 512MB, and it's simply the developers choice, so basically Microsoft has done their part optimizing the OS, so it's up to the developers to give a fluid experience (eg. Rudy Huyn). App doesn't run well? Blame the developers, not MS. How can people not see this.
    oseansaditya and Jan Tomsic like this.
    05-25-2014 08:38 AM
  17. oseansaditya's Avatar
    honestly, I'm little bit curious about this.. why applications we have on windows phone always (or maybe sometimes.. I don't know) lack of features?
    05-25-2014 08:43 AM
  18. Makm's Avatar
    honestly, I'm little bit curious about this.. why applications we have on windows phone always (or maybe sometimes.. I don't know) lack of features?
    Most of the time man!!! -.- I really don't understand why the developers do this with WPs!!
    05-25-2014 08:46 AM
  19. EpicIncognitO's Avatar
    Well to be fair, my friend is a Android freak and he loves android and after checking the apps on my lumia 720 he said that the apps on my phone had better quality in terms of design and interface. And I could see it, the WP experience is unique but the only thing we lack are pro features in all official apps, many third party apps are way way better and now that the 8.1 SDK is out I am sure the apps will improve but are the official developers trying their best? I dont think so. I think Microsoft needs the official apps to come at par with android and then people will switch.

    Coming to the 512 MB thing, many people get surprised when they come to know that my phone doesnt have a 1 GB ram, yes the OS is amazingly light. (except the lags on the start screen in 8.1).
    Makm likes this.
    05-26-2014 01:25 AM
  20. hidayat225's Avatar
    TBH, I don't think having a 512mb ram on a Windows Phone device is a problem for normal users, normal users as in those who doesn't play heavy games regularly although they may find it nice once in a while. If you want and expect more from your phone then you would go higher than 720 itself. But for a regular user like me who only have certain apps that I need is alright.

    If a consumer who is looking for a phone that he would spend his most of his time on his device (which in my opinion is very unhealthy and not great for your eyes), they would look at 820 or higher. I believe Nokia and Microsoft should market their products right if they want to stay relevant. They are not there as of yet as none of my classmates know any Lumia except for the one I'm holding and their device during the old Symbian days.

    I've spent my time with a 520 (great device and great camera for it's price), 820 (cracked it lol) and now a 720 which is like the bridge between budget and 1gb of ram. And I found that most of the apps support 512mb ram so to me it's not related to Microsoft at all. It's developers.
    Makm likes this.
    05-26-2014 01:46 AM
  21. EpicIncognitO's Avatar
    Copy that. The developers are the ones that need to work more to add more features than what is just basic. See for example the Official Instagram app, can you believe it is still in Beta, doesnt have Instagram direct etc, how do you think a Instagram freak will switch to Windows phone. Thanks to people like Rudy who build great apps like 6tag to keep us going.
    TBH, I don't think having a 512mb ram on a Windows Phone device is a problem for normal users, normal users as in those who doesn't play heavy games regularly although they may find it nice once in a while. If you want and expect more from your phone then you would go higher than 720 itself. But for a regular user like me who only have certain apps that I need is alright.

    If a consumer who is looking for a phone that he would spend his most of his time on his device (which in my opinion is very unhealthy and not great for your eyes), they would look at 820 or higher. I believe Nokia and Microsoft should market their products right if they want to stay relevant. They are not there as of yet as none of my classmates know any Lumia except for the one I'm holding and their device during the old Symbian days.

    I've spent my time with a 520 (great device and great camera for it's price), 820 (cracked it lol) and now a 720 which is like the bridge between budget and 1gb of ram. And I found that most of the apps support 512mb ram so to me it's not related to Microsoft at all. It's developers.
    05-26-2014 02:08 AM
  22. bozza72's Avatar
    i think if you want a 512mb phone then thats what you buy, but if however you want a top end phone that will run everything then you buy one with1gb of ram & stop bleating on about being hard done by.
    hidayat225 likes this.
    05-26-2014 02:44 AM
  23. colinkiama's Avatar
    i think if you want a 512mb phone then thats what you buy, but if however you want a top end phone that will run everything then you buy one with1gb of ram & stop bleating on about being hard done by.
    I know. I'm just waiting for a lumia 730 that has 1gb ram and a HD screen. Then I will switch.
    malih likes this.
    05-26-2014 06:47 PM
  24. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Considering that all WP7 devices ran on 512, I'd say yes. Granted, WP8 has more features but unless you're a gamer, 512 works fine.
    05-26-2014 06:53 PM
  25. malih's Avatar
    I know. I'm just waiting for a lumia 730 that has 1gb ram and a HD screen. Then I will switch.
    Exactly, I would very much like the 730 to be Quad-core rocking device with 1GB RAM and at least 720p screen,
    I mean this is 2014, WVGA/FWVGA screens should really be reserved for lower end devices with 4" display and below.

    And about the 512MB devices, well, if you're into Gaming, it's better to steer clear off it,
    but if you're using your phone as a communications device (messaging, telephony and whatnot), 512MB seems to suffice, for now.
    hidayat225 and colinkiama like this.
    05-26-2014 07:18 PM

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