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06-29-2014 06:56 AM
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  1. bionicgt's Avatar
    more apps, better apps, a bigger set of apps, apps that are equally great as ios and android... APPS AND APS!
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    06-05-2014 11:06 AM
  2. a5cent's Avatar
    more apps, better apps, a bigger set of apps, apps that are equally great as ios and android... APPS AND APS!
    We all agree with that sentiment, I'm not sure that is enough though. Even if we had every app iOS has, same quality, and we got updates at the exact same time, would that really be enough to get people to switch? I'm sure it would get some to switch, but would it get WP to 10% and beyond in the U.S. I'm doubtful. That just removes the deterrent to switching. It doesn't give many a reason to switch.

    Give us better apps, that are updated earlier, then yes. If the best WP manages to do is fight its way to a draw, then it looses.
    06-05-2014 11:15 AM
  3. A895's Avatar
    We all agree with that sentiment, I'm not sure that is enough though. Even if we had every app iOS has, same quality, and we got updates at the exact same time, would that really be enough to get people to switch? I'm sure it would get some to switch, but would it get WP to 10% and beyond in the U.S. I'm doubtful. That just removes the deterrent to switching. It doesn't give many a reason to switch.

    Give us better apps, that are updated earlier, then yes. If the best WP manages to do is fight its way to a draw, then it looses.
    I say get all the apps in quality and focus on Xbox Services especially Xbox Live games. That would make me switch at least.

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    06-05-2014 11:38 AM
  4. a5cent's Avatar
    I say get all the apps in quality and focus on Xbox Services especially Xbox Live games. That would make me switch at least.
    Yeah, I know, but you aren't the typical smartphone user. You or anyone else on these forums probably isn't shy about trying another OS, whereas the 'normal' consumer is most comfortable with what they already know. The only way to get them to switch is to give them a clear and obvious reason to do so. For most, having apps that are as good as what they already have, isn't a compelling reason.
    06-05-2014 11:54 AM
  5. WanderingTraveler's Avatar
    Better XBL integration and games.

    You can hear me disprove that the Wii U or the Vita have no games, but XBL on WP? All you see is a shrug and you get to hear some crickets, too.
    06-05-2014 11:56 AM
  6. A895's Avatar
    Better XBL integration and games.

    You can hear me disprove that the Wii U or the Vita have no games, but XBL on WP? All you see is a shrug and you get to hear some crickets, too.
    That's it needs to be better and needs to be marketed towards Xbox gamers. Tel Xbox gamers their phone can be extension of their Xbox and have all the latest apps and games and I bet they can sell a few million. The most frustrating part is Microsoft does now seem to know how to market standout features.

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    06-05-2014 12:30 PM
  7. Christopher Lindsay's Avatar
    There was another thread on here about how to make WP killer with features. In that thread I pointed out that WP's main issue today is still what it was 1 1/2 years ago when I first took up WP, which missing apps. When I say missing apps I refer to the 'official' apps and I make a point of saying that it's about image. If you're always relying on 3rd party to fill gaps you look 3rd rate, regardless of how good those apps are.

    Regarding features I got thinking. We constantly rely on the OS provider to bring about features and then when a particular feature doesn't come out you have people complaining it's not what they want or exactly what they want. It's always seems to lack. So why not allow developers to create features? Open the system up so that it's possible to do so within a contained environment.

    To give an example of what I mean, I'll use an app that's already in existence. The Transparent Tiles app. Though this app isn't really a 'feature' as such it does something that people want and it sits quietly doing it's job in the background like it were part of the OS.

    So maybe the 'one' killer feature MS bring out would be the ability for developers to create features for WP that act like part of the OS. That way we get the features people want and developers to try out the OS.

    Well, that's my two cents anyway. I don't think we should keep relying on MS to do everything as they don't seem capable of doing it. Windows OS relies heavily on other developers to bring out a good experience. So WP should be similar.
    Maybe you're on top something here. I think the one cool feature will be hardware though. But who knows, I could be wrong.
    06-05-2014 12:31 PM
  8. Christopher Lindsay's Avatar
    I said this before as well. Official apps will always be better than 3rd party.

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    I don't agree with that fully. I like the third party windows phone YouTube apps. I could never download the videos on YouTube with IOS. Same for soundcloud.
    06-05-2014 12:35 PM
  9. Robinsonmac's Avatar
    They need ALL the flagship phones on ALL the carriers at the same time.
    06-05-2014 08:40 PM
  10. A895's Avatar
    I don't agree with that fully. I like the third party windows phone YouTube apps. I could never download the videos on YouTube with IOS. Same for soundcloud.
    Well videos usually aren't supposed to be downloaded on account of copyright and all that.

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    06-05-2014 08:59 PM
  11. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Maybe you're on top something here. I think the one cool feature will be hardware though. But who knows, I could be wrong.

    I don't think hardware means much to the average user and that's what needs to be cleared up here. Everyone goes on about specialized thinking and their needs but the average user just wants a phone that works and has the apps that everyone else has. Then you need a reason for them to switch. That comes down to providing a unique user experience.

    It's all about user experience but how do you market that in such a saturated market? That's what MS needs to sort out. WP is unique but it seems to attract a certain type of user at the moment and I believe that to be mostly based on app selection and phone selection. Both are short falls for MS currently.
    Last edited by N_LaRUE; 06-06-2014 at 08:25 AM.
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    06-06-2014 12:15 AM
  12. Christopher Lindsay's Avatar
    I don't think hardware means much to the average user and that's what needs to be cleared up here. Everyone goes on about specialized thinking and their needs but the average user just wants a phone that works and has the apps that everyone else has. Then you need a reason for them to switch. That comes down to providing a unique user experience.

    It's all about user experience but how do you market that in such a saturated market? That's what MS needs to sort out. WP is unique but it seems to attract a certain type of user at the moment and I believe that to be mostly based on app selection and phone selection. Both are short falls for MS currently.
    When I say hardware I don't mean updated specs. I mean a feature or design that makes it appeal.
    06-06-2014 01:41 PM
  13. AngrySprintUser's Avatar
    WP doesnt need a killer feature, though they already have it...the user interface and you could argue they also have the best cameras. WP needs to concentrate on converting android users that are annoyed with the platform because of its poor battery life and the fact that it usually only runs its best when on top end hardware. WP gets great battery life and is said to run well on older hardware, though I cant confirm the latter. They really need to start pushing their cameras.......



    Things like that have minimum system requirements for a reason. Giving someone a crappy user experience is even worse than giving them none at all......
    In my opinion, it's going to be a lot easier to switch Android users to WP then iOS users. There's more similarity with Android and WP, plus iOS users are in their own world. Apple could have twigs with their logos on them, and Apple users would line up for weeks to buy em. The iPhone 6t
    06-06-2014 01:59 PM
  14. Zulfigar's Avatar
    In my opinion, it's going to be a lot easier to switch Android users to WP then iOS users. There's more similarity with Android and WP, plus iOS users are in their own world. Apple could have twigs with their logos on them, and Apple users would line up for weeks to buy em. The iPhone 6t
    Introducing the iTwig! Now you can swat your enemies while not doing much else! Who would want to do more? We made the iTwig lighter than any other twig out there, so swatting your enemies can be faster! The iTwig is priced reasonably well at $399 for three basic version, $599 for the larger version. Go swat your enemies today!
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    06-06-2014 02:10 PM
  15. Visa Declined's Avatar
    In my opinion, it's going to be a lot easier to switch Android users to WP then iOS users.
    That's not true at all. All of the games and apps on my Android phone are also on iOS, and 99% of them aren't on Windows Phone. You can't really expect people to give their apps up.
    06-06-2014 06:28 PM
  16. tgp's Avatar
    In my opinion, it's going to be a lot easier to switch Android users to WP then iOS users. There's more similarity with Android and WP, plus iOS users are in their own world.
    I don't agree. Android & iOS are more similar with each other than with WP. The UI is somewhat the same, and there's a lot of parity in apps, in both selection and quality (at least closer than to WP).
    06-06-2014 08:07 PM
  17. AngrySprintUser's Avatar
    That's not true at all. All of the games and apps on my Android phone are also on iOS, and 99% of them aren't on Windows Phone. You can't really expect people to give their apps up.
    Not talking about the apps, talking about the OS
    06-07-2014 11:45 AM
  18. AngrySprintUser's Avatar
    Introducing the iTwig! Now you can swat your enemies while not doing much else! Who would want to do more? We made the iTwig lighter than any other twig out there, so swatting your enemies can be faster! The iTwig is priced reasonably well at $399 for three basic version, $599 for the larger version. Go swat your enemies today!
    Pretty sure Apple users are now wondering when the iTwig is coming out.
    06-07-2014 11:46 AM
  19. bala_badcat's Avatar
    User interface (not like android but more than that)
    06-07-2014 12:04 PM
  20. Christopher Lindsay's Avatar
    I think you guys missed the point of my op. I'm not asking how can windows phone improve itself. I'm asking what's the one killer feature windows phone needs to grab attention, to lure users away from their iPhone or android phones. IPhone did it years ago with Siri and Samsung did it afterwards by overloading the OS throwing every feature and the kitchen sink (lol) into the phone. What can WP do to get the same results? Yes making the OS another and better will make the OS better to use but what's going to win people over to windows phone really?
    06-08-2014 12:36 PM
  21. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    I think you guys missed the point of my op. I'm not asking how can windows phone improve itself. I'm asking what's the one killer feature windows phone needs to grab attention, to lure users away from their iPhone or android phones. IPhone did it years ago with Siri and Samsung did it afterwards by overloading the OS throwing every feature and the kitchen sink (lol) into the phone. What can WP do to get the same results? Yes making the OS another and better will make the OS better to use but what's going to win people over to windows phone really?

    Cortana might be that feature, depending on how it's implemented.
    06-08-2014 12:53 PM
  22. Christopher Lindsay's Avatar
    Looks like Microsoft figured it out. You guys read the article about the rumor of Microsoft working on something called 3d touch? Maybe the next big game can't feature is coming.
    06-09-2014 08:37 AM
  23. tgp's Avatar
    Cortana might be that feature, depending on how it's implemented.
    Possibly, but it's got stiff competition in Google Now. And Google Now keeps improving. I don't see it falling behind Cortana anytime soon, at least not far enough to make Cortana a "killer" feature.
    06-09-2014 08:49 AM
  24. kishorekumar_a's Avatar
    The ability to teleport peoples from one place to another

    Yep. That is one killer feature. It will kill you while trying to teleport. 😜
    06-09-2014 08:53 AM
  25. Christopher Lindsay's Avatar
    I think Cortana is way more complex and better set up then Siri but drops the ball on basic stuff like searching through music or not having her own separate volume level.
    06-09-2014 08:54 AM
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