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But ddistribution is illegal also, free or not- Share
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Jazmac likes this.06-23-2014 06:10 PMLike 1 - Share
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For the sake of this thread, I paid a few Benjamins for it. I couldn't afford it, but I couldn't afford not to do it.06-23-2014 06:32 PMLike 0 - I'm sorry,but it is exactly like that.
There is no gray area here.
If a person chooses to steal what they do not legally own,it is theft plain and simple.
You can try to justify it however you want,but that doesn't change anything.
Each individual in this world has to decide if they are going to be honest,regardless of where they live,or what their financial circumstances are.
We are not discussing a matter of life and death here,we are discussing pirating software that is not legally owned.
Quite frankly I am surprised by those here that feel this practice is somehow justified because they cannot afford to pay for this,and that they have no worries because it is not enforced in their area. These same people complain about how expensive this is,and then wonder why.
If you are starving, die while you are trying to earn money.
I say:
One. Little. Bread.
Ps. I paid all my software or msft paid it for me (dreamspark). I use spotify.
Disclaimer: I'm not supporting theft or piracy.- Share
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k0de likes this.06-23-2014 06:34 PMLike 1 - Share
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- fatclue_98Retired ModeratorHe didn't say that at all. You inferred that. He specifically mentioned that this is not life or death. I usually disagree vehemently with Mac, but he's right on this one and I got his back.
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MDMcAtee likes this.06-23-2014 07:52 PMLike 1 - Share
- It's the way of life here too (Cambodia), and I pretty have to get the cracked Windows (runs just fine tbh) since my laptop doesn't come with any OS!
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BataBole likes this.06-24-2014 12:16 AMLike 1 - Share
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In my eyes, violence is much worse than installing a unauthorized copy of Windows. And it's at least as illegal.- Share
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Reflexx likes this.06-24-2014 01:58 AMLike 1 - Share
- Only if you buy an unlimited license can you give it away as you wish. For example, I have Office 2007 with an Enterprise license because I'm always loading it on different devices that don't always have optical drives. I'm also too lazy to create an iso on a USB stick.
For the sake of this thread, I paid a few Benjamins for it. I couldn't afford it, but I couldn't afford not to do it.06-24-2014 02:05 AMLike 0 - Let me ask another question: What do you guys think about ad-blockers?
From my point of view it's the same as piracy. It allows you to read news and reports provided by hard-working people that won't see a dime just because the user prefers to not see advertisements.
Strangely, it's not illegal.06-24-2014 02:56 AMLike 0 - Let me ask another question: What do you guys think about ad-blockers?
From my point of view it's the same as piracy. It allows you to read news and reports provided by hard-working people that won't see a dime just because the user prefers to not see advertisements.
Strangely, it's not illegal.
In another note, does anyone here ever click on an advert on a web page? I don't use an ad blocker but I would never click on an ad, as I assume most are fake or dodgy, and if you click on one you're in danger of getting ripped off or having some malware installed on your PC.- Share
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06-24-2014 05:08 AMLike 2 - Share
- A friend of mine has Office 2013 installed on all his computers and didn't pay a penny. It's not SO illegal that anything could come of it but the government claims it's illegal. Kind of like smoking weed or wearing a tinted motorcycle visor. As long as you don't bother the cops, they won't stop you. UK.06-24-2014 06:12 AMLike 0
- This is an interesting question, but we could go much further. If you go to the toilet during an ad break on TV, or record the programme and fast forward through the adverts, you're also stealing from hard working people. We should install restaints in everyone's homes to force people to watch the ads. They can go to the toilet in their own time.
In another note, does anyone here ever click on an advert on a web page? I don't use an ad blocker but I would never click on an ad, as I assume most are fake or dodgy, and if you click on one you're in danger of getting ripped off or having some malware installed on your PC.06-24-2014 06:14 AMLike 0 - Often they are paid dependent on clicks. Also, when ads don't reach the target audience, these companies will stop spending money on it.06-24-2014 06:50 AMLike 0
- Let me ask another question: What do you guys think about ad-blockers?
From my point of view it's the same as piracy. It allows you to read news and reports provided by hard-working people that won't see a dime just because the user prefers to not see advertisements.
Strangely, it's not illegal.
Blocking a ad is not using or condoning pirating software, and fwiw nor is fast forwarding through a commecial...
Sheese...some of you guys are reaching for straws just to justify stealing.06-24-2014 07:18 AMLike 0 -
So what does justify for you to consume a product, but to cut out the provider's money source in this case?06-24-2014 07:20 AMLike 0 - Let me ask another question: What do you guys think about ad-blockers?
From my point of view it's the same as piracy. It allows you to read news and reports provided by hard-working people that won't see a dime just because the user prefers to not see advertisements.
Strangely, it's not illegal.
Im not being poisoned by adverts online as well as tv as well as billboard, radio, every single place I go
If I could block ads world wide I would
Pathetic argument saying it is stealing by blocking ads, pathetic06-24-2014 07:23 AMLike 0 - I already pay for my internet, I block every single ad I can - if a site can't cope without ads, shutdown the site
Im not being poisoned by adverts online as well as tv as well as billboard, radio, every single place I go
If I could block ads world wide I would
Pathetic argument saying it is stealing by blocking ads, pathetic
Actually there are quite some pages that have issues with ad-blocking. I don't think their financial problems are pathetic, after all the people behind this pages probably have a family and a life too.
And where did I say anything about stealing?
Please, give me some real reasons why it's okay to block ads. Just babbling unrelated stuff in an agitated manner doesn't help.- Share
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ronty likes this.06-24-2014 07:27 AMLike 1 - Share
- I thought we have already established that we all agree that piracy is bad, but that it is by definition not stealing. It's like you haven't read anything in this thread.
So what does justify for you to consume a product, but to cut out the provider's money source in this case?
What a moronic argument you choose to use for your justification of pirating software. Just because I choose not to look at something doesn't mean I am stealing....and for you to try to argue this speaks volumes for the type of person you choose to be.06-24-2014 07:40 AMLike 0 - I did, when I was much younger (teenager). I don't do it anymore. I don't expect people to know what's wright or wrong from birth on, but at one point people should start to think about their actions and the consequences.06-24-2014 08:46 AMLike 0
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Like I said before it isn't a matter of life and death,it's a choice between being honest or not.06-24-2014 08:48 AMLike 0 - No..theft is theft. Only those who are trying to make a pisspoor argument are claiming that it isn't.
What a moronic argument you choose to use for your justification of pirating software. Just because I choose not to look at something doesn't mean I am stealing....and for you to try to argue this speaks volumes for the type of person you choose to be.
I was asking this question here because for me it's a very similar problem: If you acquire a unauthorized copy of Windows, there's nothing missing at another place. There's no direct damage. The damage is the money that a company (and the entire trade chain) loses because of it.
If you block ads, there's nothing missing, but the damage is the money the company loses because of it.
And just as a reminder: Google, Bing, Facebook, Twitter, and so on, and so on, they all make their money with ads.
And as a personal side note: Your vulgar choice of words is not really pleasant to read.- Share
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Reflexx likes this.06-24-2014 08:50 AMLike 1 - Share
- We really don't people throwing personal insults around here. It speaks more about character than an opinion on the practicality of piracy enforcement.
And yes, ad blocking is similar to piracy. It's purposely blocking the revenue generation model of a service while still enjoying the benefits of that service.- Share
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06-24-2014 09:21 AMLike 2 - Share
- I would lie if i say that i dont download software that is cracked(pirated). I have licensed Windows 8 on my laptop,and Office 2013 I paid a lot for that,i am from Serbia,sooo not all of us from Balkan are thiefts :))(i mean MSFT thiefts). But...i download a lot of movies and Tv shows using torrents i admmit. I am not gamer,so i dont download that one,for music i am using Youtube and Soundcloud...06-24-2014 09:23 AMLike 0
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