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  1. Jazmac's Avatar
    Don't care about whatever BB, Android or iOS are doing. Care about what WP is doing
    Then I wouldn't hold them up as an example to make your point. BBM in particular has major problems on both android and IOS mostly related to timely receipt of messages...not to mention being a memory hog. I feel sorry for 512 devices trying to run this. The point is developers can't build perfection into a phone. No developer can. There are always trade-offs when they build. As good as Rudy is, his 6snap crashes on my 920 like crashing is what it was designed to do. He knows it and it'll get better. Just like this phone will.
    Guytronic and Pete like this.
    07-03-2014 12:02 AM
  2. Ebuka Allison's Avatar
    Then I wouldn't hold them up as an example to make your point. BBM in particular has major problems on both android and IOS mostly related to timely receipt of messages...not to mention being a memory hog. I feel sorry for 512 devices trying to run this. The point is developers can't build perfection into a phone. No developer can. There are always trade-offs when they build. As good as Rudy is, his 6snap crashes on my 920 like crashing is what it was designed to do. He knows it and it'll get better. Just like this phone will.
    Xbox Music and Skype on iOS and Android are much better than the WP apps.
    07-03-2014 01:41 AM
  3. Silviu Bogusevschi's Avatar
    Xbox Music and Skype on iOS and Android are much better than the WP apps.
    Skype on iOS is crap, at least the previous version. And Xbox music on WP now works great.
    07-03-2014 03:59 AM
  4. a5cent's Avatar
    I want to say that this last update for XBM has changed a LOT! It just moved XBM out of the 'crap' category. I like it now, and if they can add the things they listed it will be great!
    Jazmac likes this.
    07-03-2014 05:50 AM
  5. Ebuka Allison's Avatar
    I want to say that this last update for XBM has changed a LOT! It just moved XBM out of the 'crap' category. I like it now, and if they can add the things they listed it will be great!
    I've always liked XBM in looks and func. Speed for me was the big issue
    07-03-2014 05:56 AM
  6. Silviu Bogusevschi's Avatar
    I want to say that this last update for XBM has changed a LOT! It just moved XBM out of the 'crap' category. I like it now, and if they can add the things they listed it will be great!
    I guess this is one of those cases, when "bug fixes and improvements" truly mean fixes and improvements :)
    anon8855939 likes this.
    07-03-2014 06:02 AM
  7. anon8855939's Avatar
    You know what windows phone 8.1/cyan isn't even official you are just using developer preview and those apps but have you ever tried ios preview or android preview.
    They work like bull**** hangs every time.
    07-03-2014 06:11 AM
  8. Chregu's Avatar
    You know what windows phone 8.1/cyan isn't even official you are just using developer preview and those apps but have you ever tried ios preview or android preview.
    They work like bull**** hangs every time.
    Ebuka Allison stated multiple times that he owns the Lumia 630.

    So let me show you the way to this post: http://forums.windowscentral.com/gen...tm#post2619203
    androidtoWM likes this.
    07-03-2014 06:13 AM
  9. Great deal's Avatar
    Hows the new XBM update on 8.1?
    07-03-2014 06:55 AM
  10. Silviu Bogusevschi's Avatar
    Fantastic. Literally.
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    07-03-2014 07:02 AM
  11. crystal_planet's Avatar
    IMO the roll out of 8.1 has been a disaster. The preview is unstable and has perf problems in my phone. Only one device launched with the new OS. It's like they're doing a poor job o they don't have any faith in this release.
    I still want to see modern UI 2.0 before abandoning the ship.
    8.1 hasn't been rolled out - it is beta as it stands right now. You had to enroll into a program where you effectively became a beta tester. And if your phone is now unstable - that's on you and your phone - because while the build may be buggy for some, it is not unstable. Stop taking your own personal experience and making it an absolute.
    07-03-2014 07:21 AM
  12. Pete's Avatar
    Windows Phone 8.1 is not Beta, it's an early release for developers.
    Guytronic likes this.
    07-03-2014 07:29 AM
  13. Chregu's Avatar
    Windows Phone 8.1 is not Beta, it's an early release for developers.
    Windows Phone 8.1 is finished and sold on the Lumia 630.

    I think we are really making circles here ;-)
    07-03-2014 07:31 AM
  14. Pete's Avatar
    I think we are really making circles here ;-)
    It's an unfortunate consequence of long threads. Once they get over a certain length, people only read a few posts and then reply without really knowing or caring that they're flogging someone else's dead horse (even if the horse is off-topic)....
    07-03-2014 07:41 AM
  15. Jazmac's Avatar
    Xbox Music and Skype on iOS and Android are much better than the WP apps.
    Says who? Do you have an Iphone to say this at least? I do and it truly isn't. I also own an android device too and I got to say, I don't see it. Skype is Skype.
    07-03-2014 08:17 AM
  16. MartLea's Avatar
    Well said sir! Personally I always prefer to use "Extracting the Michael" Microsoft have been doing this for decades of course so no change now with WP which has the potential to be a great OS.
    07-03-2014 08:50 AM
  17. ByeVanno's Avatar
    I borrowed my girlfriend's iPhone for a week and Skype was miles ahead of the windows phone version imo and I mean the current version I don't know about past versions
    07-03-2014 09:00 AM
  18. Silviu Bogusevschi's Avatar
    I borrowed my girlfriend's iPhone for a week and Skype was miles ahead of the windows phone version imo and I mean the current version I don't know about past versions
    The previous one was a disaster for me. The new one is great.
    And I don't feel any issues with the current WP version of Skype...
    07-03-2014 09:13 AM
  19. Ebuka Allison's Avatar
    Says who? Do you have an Iphone to say this at least? I do and it truly isn't. I also own an android device too and I got to say, I don't see it. Skype is Skype.
    Yes and no. I have an Android which I used for two weeks (GS2 Jellybean) and I sometimes play with an iPhone
    07-03-2014 12:58 PM
  20. Ebuka Allison's Avatar
    Fantastic. Literally.
    I wouldn't go so far. I went out today and wanted to try new headphones at a store with someone. The load up time for XBM was embarrassing especially as I was just boasting about 8.1 vs android
    07-03-2014 01:02 PM
  21. Ebuka Allison's Avatar
    Then I wouldn't hold them up as an example to make your point. BBM in particular has major problems on both android and IOS mostly related to timely receipt of messages...not to mention being a memory hog. I feel sorry for 512 devices trying to run this. The point is developers can't build perfection into a phone. No developer can. There are always trade-offs when they build. As good as Rudy is, his 6snap crashes on my 920 like crashing is what it was designed to do. He knows it and it'll get better. Just like this phone will.
    Also, before calling me whiny, click on my profile history and read my posts and thread. Do that, then come back and talk.
    vishj05 likes this.
    07-03-2014 01:09 PM
  22. Silviu Bogusevschi's Avatar
    I wouldn't go so far. I went out today and wanted to try new headphones at a store with someone. The load up time for XBM was embarrassing especially as I was just boasting about 8.1 vs android
    I have nearly 100 songs and everything is awesome. No 'loading', 'resuming', 'signing in' etc etc. The Video app is slow as hell...
    07-03-2014 01:10 PM
  23. Chregu's Avatar
    I have nearly 100 songs and everything is awesome. No 'loading', 'resuming', 'signing in' etc etc. The Video app is slow as hell...


    Sorry, I could not resist :-/
    07-03-2014 01:11 PM
  24. Ebuka Allison's Avatar
    I have nearly 100 songs and everything is awesome. No 'loading', 'resuming', 'signing in' etc etc. The Video app is slow as hell...
    The video app is awesome. I can't see what problems people have with it
    Except for failing to play full hd video, otherwise it's fine
    07-03-2014 01:47 PM
  25. Jazmac's Avatar
    Also, before calling me whiny, click on my profile history and read my posts and thread. Do that, then come back and talk.
    I'm not trying to hire you so I don't find researching your post history any at all germane to my opinion about this post. Besides, I'll take you at your word that your post history tells a different story. However on this ONE issue, I feel you are over reacting.

    If developers are doing a crap job, and I agree, a few of these "developers" on this platform border between lazy and flat out incompetent. But I don't put that off on Microsoft. This is what MS has always done on the desktop. Build the OS and let dev's do what they do. I think we do agree their should be a different standard when it comes to Windows Phone. At this point it doesn't exist. Until the build standards on WP become the focus for Microsoft, we can only deal with where we are. Building a better platform and hardware FOR developers.
    Guytronic likes this.
    07-03-2014 09:09 PM
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