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  1. boxa72's Avatar
    Microsoft are doing nothing of the sort. This whole argument is ridiculous and you'll find that this particular rumor is false
    Sent from my Lumia 925 8.1
    07-09-2014 12:26 AM
  2. Mavee Shah's Avatar
    Microsoft are doing nothing of the sort. This whole argument is ridiculous and you'll find that this particular rumor is false
    Sent from my Lumia 925 8.1
    Read it at my Nokia blog you will change your statement
    07-09-2014 12:31 AM
  3. boxa72's Avatar
    When I here Microsoft announce it then I'll believe it. Until then I'll treat it like every other rumor n take with a grain of salt
    Sent from my Lumia 925 8.1
    Susmit257, neo158 and a5cent like this.
    07-09-2014 12:33 AM
  4. IzaacJ's Avatar
    As I've written on twitter about this, it could be an awesome opportunity for businesses to see that people want their WP app.
    If this happens, it should be restricted to established companies to keep all the android crap out, and also, the developer gets a year (or so) to develop a native app. After that year, they have to pay a fee each month to keep their Android version up. And if they put that native app up during the first 6 months, they're getting their first year for free
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    07-09-2014 12:48 AM
  5. prasath1234's Avatar
    If MS wants to fast-track app availability on WP like BlackBerry tried - look what happened to BlackBerry...no-one developed for BB10 despite the apps being un-optimised and all. All-in-all I can understand where they are come from, but that's what BlackBerry thought they could do successfully and ultimately failed
    But blackberry does not have a brand like nokia at least in India.nokia wp phone with android apps put plug on app gap.its market share will increase in India.so good for Indians only if they optimise to run android which I think is far fetched affair.
    07-09-2014 01:00 AM
  6. rodan01's Avatar
    That was neither a rhetorical nor a trick question. I'm genuinely curious why oditius (or anyone else for that matter) would prefer to run Android apps on WP rather than just get a real Android device? So far I haven't seen anybody answer that question.
    ?



    I have a beautiful start screen, I like live tiles, the metro design, I use MS services, I like the simplicity of the OS.





    But I can't access my bank, I can't read my favorite newspaper, and I can't play candy crash!. My life is not perfect. Maybe with a few Android apps it could be perfect.





    The question you're asking is invalid because it includes the assumption that native development dies with android support and all the native apps instantly disappear. That's nonsense.





    A more relevant question is: Would you like to add a couple of Android apps to improve your experience with Windows Phone?. I think most of the users would answer yes.
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    07-09-2014 01:00 AM
  7. MDMcAtee's Avatar
    It doesn't make any sense. WP is Tile based and Android is Icons. The only way I see Android on WP is like how Android is an a PC through third part software like Bluestacks but that is slower and clunky.

    How is Android apps going to run on a WP?

    Jim
    Well....if I had control of Microsoft,I wouldn't be doing what BB did,nor run Android in a VM or VB with some half baked Android store.

    I would push for a true dual boot Lumina with the latest processor and graphics chipset,3-4 gigs of ram,64or 128 gig of internal storage,with 128 gig supported external storage with a qhd 5.5" display small bezel with a removable 4800 battery and a 41mp camera. This would be the ultimate smart phone. This would also have true Dolby digital stereo speakers Miracast,HDMI out, finger print scanning,retinal scanning with a in built barometer,running Threshold and pure ASOP with no boot loaders,efuses,or Knox.

    They would be lining up in larger numbers than they ever did for any phone in history.

    Every tech magazine would be proclaiming it is the greatest thing since sliced bread and Microsoft would be crowned king...

    Internal and external storage will be partitioned automatically for the different os's..and both will be able to be backed up on the fly and completely restored on the fly independent of each other.
    Why have 2 completely different os's...simple..no one else has done it yet in mainstream phones,both apps are still developed,without worrying about WP ever going away,you still have WP secured system,but have the best Android system to customize to your hearts content,all of Google's apps and services too.
    While I know that there is so much hatred for Android and Google,and I don't like their policies either,I know all about ASOP and what it is capable of. I also know Microsoft WP will never really make a big dent in market share on it's own,regardless of what many here hope for,and this phone will change the mobile world entirely. It's not running up a white flag of surrender,just the opposite. It's throwing down the gauntlet to all other phone makers,and will showcase WP like it has never been before. It's apps and os will compete head to head with the best Android can offer,so Microsoft's developers all of them,have to bring their A game,cause nothing else willacceptable
    07-09-2014 01:02 AM
  8. neo158's Avatar
    When I here Microsoft announce it then I'll believe it. Until then I'll treat it like every other rumor n take with a grain of salt Sent from my Lumia 925 8.1
    Exactly how I feel. I think that until we hear from Microsoft on this then it's just best to take it for what it is, rumours and speculation nothing more.

    This is about as likely to happen as the rumoured Lumia Android Phone!!!
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    07-09-2014 02:47 AM
  9. a5cent's Avatar
    The question you're asking is invalid because it includes the assumption that native development dies with android support and all the native apps instantly disappear. That's nonsense.
    I guess my question is valid then rodan, since it neither implies nor assumes anything of the kind. There is no hidden agenda. It's just a simple question. I just want to know what others think about it.

    We already discussed why I think unrestricted Android app support would kill a lot of the 'native' app development for WP. We know why we think differently. We both think each others views on this one issue are nonsensical, and since neither can convince the other, we might as well leave it at that for now.

    This question is completely unrelated however.

    So again... a question to everyone:

    If you could run Android apps on WP, why would you prefer to run them on WP as opposed to getting a real Android device and running them on that?
    Last edited by a5cent; 07-09-2014 at 05:44 AM.
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    07-09-2014 05:28 AM
  10. psudotechzealot's Avatar
    So again... a question to everyone:

    If you could run Android apps on WP, why would you prefer to run them on WP as opposed to getting a real Android device and running them on that?
    The only reason I would prefer them on WP, if there were customization like apps create for WP that allow you to customize certain things like background colors(besides Black and White) and the look of the notification center for example. If something like that isn't their, than I would rather get an android device to get a real experience.
    a5cent likes this.
    07-09-2014 06:35 AM
  11. Chregu's Avatar
    So again... a question to everyone:

    If you could run Android apps on WP, why would you prefer to run them on WP as opposed to getting a real Android device and running them on that?
    I would not.
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    07-09-2014 06:50 AM
  12. paulxxwall's Avatar
    It doesn't matter what happened to Pontiac or anybody else, the point is that major manufacturers have banded together before without their customers belly-aching and threatening to burn their LeBron jerseys. I think people need to grow up and understand how the real world works. If devs leave the platform over this, good riddance.

    Sent from my BLU STUDIO 5.0 II using WPCentral Forums mobile app
    I understand your point but unlike os's there are tons of different cars to choose from and plenty of good NBA players to cry over but us phone junkies and those who want a good os backed with awesome hardware only have three choices...the good,better and best.....that's it. I love my windows phone but lets be honest our apps and support are no were near IOS and android app support even from Ms there support is better....way better so how would our dev support get better if they find out we can download android apps? No more windows phone apps? Only android apps? I've lost all steam here at my shop were at one point they considered WP maybe after wp8.11 but now they ask me " wanna switch to android with us instead........more apps..........more and better dev support ( even from Ms). Better phone selection......higher end phones don't lag .now out of those android apps that Nokia is testing ........any signs of official YouTube? And now with Nokia android......why pick Wp?
    07-09-2014 06:57 AM
  13. boxa72's Avatar
    I think of peeps want Android apps go buy a Samsung, HTC, etc. Android n iOS started out with no apps n they've done alright, so makes u think WP can't do the same???
    Sent from my Lumia 925 8.1
    neo158 likes this.
    07-09-2014 07:11 AM
  14. rodan01's Avatar
    I guess my question is valid then rodan, since it neither implies nor assumes anything of the kind. There is no hidden agenda. It's just a simple question. I just want to know what others think about it.

    All the questions have context, assumptions and agenda, without them it would be involuntary, irrational talk without meaning, that could be called dementia.
    07-09-2014 07:39 AM
  15. Chregu's Avatar
    All the questions have context, assumptions and agenda, without them it would be involuntary, irrational talk without meaning, that could be called dementia.
    No it could not be called dementia, and it certainly doesn't make you clever saying it does. Dementia is a severe and devastating disease, it's not a joke in an argument.
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    07-09-2014 07:42 AM
  16. rodan01's Avatar
    No it could not be called dementia, and it certainly doesn't make you clever saying it does. Dementia is a severe and devastating disease, it's not a joke in an argument.

    Don't go off topic Chregu. I'm sure nobody is interested in discussing the etymology of the word "Dementia". The internet is there if you're interested.
    07-09-2014 08:02 AM
  17. a5cent's Avatar
    All the questions have context, assumptions and agenda, without them it would be involuntary, irrational talk without meaning, that could be called dementia.
    I see no reason for you to get all passive-aggressive rodan. I really don't want to argue with you. It feels to me like we agree on almost everything, but this one issue somehow stands in the way of us getting along. I don't see why that should be a problem.

    Yes, all questions have context. I never said otherwise.

    Yes, all questions include assumptions. It's just that this particular question of mine isn't making the assumption you think it is. In fact, it has nothing to do with it at all. Completely different topic.

    Yes, all questions have agendas. What I said is that I have no hidden agenda. I just want to learn what people with an opinion different from my own think. Is that so diabolical?

    Can we move on?
    07-09-2014 08:14 AM
  18. MDMcAtee's Avatar
    That was neither a rhetorical nor a trick question. I'm genuinely curious why oditius (or anyone else for that matter) would prefer to run Android apps on WP rather than just get a real Android device? So far I haven't seen anybody answer that question.

    If a majority agrees with whatever the answer is, I think that might go a long way towards convincing people that WP still has a role to play in such a world. On the other hand, if the reasons seem misguided or unpopular/irrelevant to most, then that might indicate that WP really would be in for a rough time once WP is able to run Android apps.

    So, Oditius? Anybody?
    Personally,I wouldn't want to. Even though a limited amount of Android apps would be available,it would not eliminate the app gap completely,and it would stop any real developing on the ones we can access. There is no need for any competition and I personally believe will harm WP in the end by eliminating the need to develop for WP. The larger audience is in the Android app store and for those running Android and the devs will have to code for both or be shut out from the larger audience. I'm sure some will,just for the love of the platform,but,how many of the most sought after apps are built just for S&G's for the live of it..Most who develops have a lot of time and money invested in it,and want some kind of return for their work.

    The solution I mentioned early is the best approach, for those who want to develop....and also benefits the end user too by stimulating growth,and allowing choice,and opening the doors to a larger audience to have the opportunity for a high end WP with all of the inherent benefits available for the platform.

    Why buy a half baked pie,when you can get 2 of the best fully cooked for a little more?
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    07-09-2014 08:23 AM
  19. Chregu's Avatar
    Don't go off topic Chregu. I'm sure nobody is interested in discussing the etymology of the word "Dementia". The internet is there if you're interested.
    No, there's nothing to discuss, it's very clear.

    Dementia is a broad category of brain diseases that cause long term loss of the ability to think and reason clearly that is severe enough to affect a person's daily functioning.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dementia

    I hope you will never suffer from dementia or have to experience somebody suffering from it. And if you already do or did I'm astonished that you still use this word in a context like this.

    As of the off topic issues, I see most of the recent posts as being off topic.

    But to be on topic. I strongly believe that allowing Android apps on Windows Phone would hurt native App development in quite some extent. Many of the big companies already do it only to have some app in the store, they have usually a pretty bad quality and are lacking in features. If they can just switch to re-release their Android app to get it to Windows Phone, why shouldn't they do it?
    07-09-2014 08:38 AM
  20. boxa72's Avatar
    Ur exactly right coz if I was developing for Windows Phone (which I will be) n Android apps were allowed on WP I would just code for Android n hit both markets simultaneously rather than worrying about coding for WP at all!!!
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    07-09-2014 08:43 AM
  21. GokulChandran's Avatar
    Its just a rubbish thing it will make the existing windows phone users to migrate to android this is not the way to attract the android users this will a foolish idea
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    07-09-2014 08:50 AM
  22. rodan01's Avatar
    I see no reason for you to get all passive-aggressive rodan. I really don't want to argue with you. It feels to me like we agree on almost everything, but this one issue somehow stands in the way of us getting along. I don't see why that should be a problem.





    Yes, all questions have context. I never said otherwise.





    Yes, all questions include assumptions. It's just that this particular question of mine isn't making the assumption you think it is. In fact, it has nothing to do with it at all. Completely different topic.





    Yes, all questions have agendas. What I said is that I have no hidden agenda. I just want to learn what people with an opinion different from my own think. Is that so diabolical?





    Can we move on?





    It's not aggression, it's reduction to absurdity, -which implies that It would be absurd to claim that-.





    You repeat that the question doesn't have the assumption i believe it has, but people is addressing the question with that assumption and you don't explain the different aspect that you're trying to address.





    So, at the end is the same chat all the time. "Oh, native development will die, all the native apps will disappear, who would prefer to run the android apps on WP, WP will die, Microsoft is killing WP, I hate Microsoft, I'm buying an Android/iphone"
    07-09-2014 08:50 AM
  23. a5cent's Avatar
    So, at the end is the same chat all the time. "Oh, native development will die, all the native apps will disappear, who would prefer to run the android apps on WP, WP will die, Microsoft is killing WP, I hate Microsoft, I'm buying an Android/iphone"
    Yes, some respond in that manner, but they can do so only by refusing to accept the premise of my question. There isn't much I can do about that.

    I'll try to be more direct about the intended audience:

    To those who like the idea of running Android apps on WP: If Android apps come to WP, at that point, where do you see the appeal in the WP platform? Why would you prefer to run those apps on WP, as opposed to running them on an Android device?
    07-09-2014 09:11 AM
  24. rodan01's Avatar
    No, there's nothing to discuss, it's very clear.



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dementia

    I hope you will never suffer from dementia or have to experience somebody suffering from it. And if you already do or did I'm astonished that you still use this word in a context like this.


    The word has other more "casual" meanings. You chose to interpret a particular one, that's quite recent, in the domain of mental health, because of you're background. And then you have an emotional reaction trying to drag me to your subjectivity.



    Ok, I accept that, I empathize with you.
    07-09-2014 09:31 AM
  25. Chregu's Avatar
    The word has other more "casual" meanings. You chose to interpret a particular one, that's quite recent, in the domain of mental health, because of you're background. And then you have an emotional reaction trying to drag me to your subjectivity.
    You can't just decide to give a word a meaning. Dementia as a word is well defined by all English dictionaries. I don't even know why we are discussing that, you have made a very bad choice of words, and now you are trying to avoid admitting it by behaving like a sulky child.

    But okay, I accept that, I empathize with you.

    To answer your question: It really depends on how Microsoft would manage to implement these Android apps. If they would run as smoothly as native apps, if they were well integrated with hardware, notification center and live tiles, yes, I would very much welcome them on my current device. I don't know much about these things, I don't know whether such an implementation is possible. However, if they would just run as badly as on BB, no, then I definitely wouldn't want them at all.
    07-09-2014 09:44 AM
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