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  1. Thomas Jordan's Avatar
    There are alot of rumours about Microsoft bringing Android apps to WP. I think this is a terrible idea. I love WP but if they do this what would be the point of WP. No developers would bother with not just WP but Windows apps for PC either. More and more official apps are coming every week. I know where still far behind the others. But its getting better and I think if they just stick with it the Windows eco system will continue to grow. What do you all think?
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    07-04-2014 07:49 PM
  2. ven07's Avatar
    Lol most of the droid apps would not even be able to get into our store, because of the bad security measures... So im not against it if MS keeps the standard very high :) Also if some apps can actually qualify for our store then I see no reason to keep them out
    07-04-2014 07:57 PM
  3. k0de's Avatar
    There are alot of rumours about Microsoft bringing Android apps to WP. I think this is a terrible idea. I love WP but if they do this what would be the point of WP. No developers would bother with not just WP but Windows apps for PC either. More and more official apps are coming every week. I know where still far behind the others. But its getting better and I think if they just stick with it the Windows eco system will continue to grow. What do you all think?
    I was against this when first mentioned also.

    Perhaps this is not a bad idea to cross platform. Now I feel that this could be a good thing for the hardware.

    Besides MSFT best years were when they were allied with Google way back then. It will be very comfortable to see them united again.
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    07-04-2014 08:16 PM
  4. rodan01's Avatar
    Now that Android is improving and it runs quite well in low end hardware, the advantages of WP are disappearing and the app gap is still huge.




    Windows Phone could die without apps. Android apps should be a priority for Microsoft.









    Android apps complement native development.



    Popular apps will always be native because they appeal to a number of users that justify native development to maximize the profits.




    For mid-size apps, that in WP have a subset of the features and many bugs, Android apps are a better alternative.




    Most of the small apps won't come to WP because developers can't finance the cost of development for such a small user base, so Android apps would be the only alternative.









    The OS is important only for geeks. People buy an experience and without apps Windows Phone is a lower quality product. Now that Android is good in low end hardware the reasons to buy a Windows Phone are harder to find.
    Last edited by rodan01; 07-04-2014 at 09:34 PM.
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    07-04-2014 08:36 PM
  5. ven07's Avatar
    Lol i did not buy my phone for the apps, but because of the functionality.. The idea of being able to readily edit my documents on the go with my phone was just to appealing to say no.. so imo people still have a lot of reasons to stick to windows phone... Plus if we get android apps the reasons to get a WP increase.. 8.1 functionality + no lag + no app gap (android apps) = one helluva phone :P
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    07-04-2014 08:49 PM
  6. BitPusher2600's Avatar
    After several years of loyalty I recently ditched my BlackBerry Q10 due to this same thing, the Amazon app store announcement and all. If this happens, geez. The only thing left that isn't (more or less) Android powered is Apple. Eek :(
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    07-04-2014 08:54 PM
  7. maclancer's Avatar
    Lol i did not buy my phone for the apps, but because of the functionality.. The idea of being able to readily edit my documents on the go with my phone was just to appealing to say no.. so imo people still have a lot of reasons to stick to windows phone... Plus if we get android apps the reasons to get a WP increase.. 8.1 functionality + no lag + no app gap (android apps) = one helluva phone :P
    Same here, I rather have a Windows Phone with the tools that we have in Windows 8.1 desktop than having apps that I will not care about it.
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    07-04-2014 09:02 PM
  8. k0de's Avatar
    After several years of loyalty I recently ditched my BlackBerry Q10 due to this same thing, the Amazon app store announcement and all. If this happens, geez. The only thing left that isn't (more or less) Android powered is Apple. Eek :(
    But that is a good thing. I think.

    OEMs have a equal opportunity to compete in the market.

    Unlike Apple. MSFT and Google share their wealth with the world. Everyone eats.

    MSFT and Google joining forces again. Will demonstrate that Apple is the only Evil and greedy Empire.
    oditius likes this.
    07-04-2014 09:02 PM
  9. osars ehi's Avatar
    Why are some of you talking as if allowing and android apps to run on windows phone would mean immediate growth in WP, why would I want to buy a windows phone to run android apps. It doesn't seem to be working for blackberry and yet some of you think it would magically work for us.

    If it is eventually allowed then it would be the beginning of a slow death of the windows platform (the platform as a whole including the desktop and tablet OS).

    It all falls down to how it would be implemented. If installing android apps is not as easy as going to the store and clicking download then am afraid it would just be a waste. I mean why go through the hassle of side-loading android apps when I can just buy an android phone.

    I am Sure google will not sit down and watch this happen smoothly for Microsoft. They will definitely have something to say or do about it.

    Guys be patient there have been many official apps coming in recently, they might not be up to standard but they are there. If gameloft, blackberry and Disney among others can see the point in investing in our platform then there is surely hope. Lets wait and see what these new oems coming in to play can do for the future growth of the platform.
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    07-04-2014 09:10 PM
  10. rodan01's Avatar
    Lol i did not buy my phone for the apps, but because of the functionality.. The idea of being able to readily edit my documents on the go with my phone was just to appealing to say no.. so imo people still have a lot of reasons to stick to windows phone... Plus if we get android apps the reasons to get a WP increase.. 8.1 functionality + no lag + no app gap (android apps) = one helluva phone :P

    The good performance of WP in low end hardware made the L520 the bestseller phone in that segment worldwide. And also helped the sales of the other devices with 512mb of ram.
    The sales of WP in the high-end segment are insignificant.
    So, if Android is improving and closing the performance advantage, sales of WP devices could suffer a lot.

    That's right, there are many reasons to buy a WP, but you have to analyze the more important factors that explain most of the sales.

    So, Microsoft has to build a new advantage or close the main disadvantage, the app gap.

    For me it would be really good to have Android apps even if they perform badly. There are many apps in my country that won't come to WP any time soon. I can't access my bank, I can't access some government services, the support of WP in local apps is almost nonexistent.
    ven07, oditius and zzvizz like this.
    07-04-2014 09:17 PM
  11. rodan01's Avatar
    Why are some of you talking as if allowing and android apps to run on windows phone would mean immediate growth in WP, why would I want to buy a windows phone to run android apps. It doesn't seem to be working for blackberry and yet some of you think it would magically work for us.





    If it is eventually allowed then it would be the beginning of a slow death of the windows platform (the platform as a whole including the desktop and tablet OS).





    It all falls down to how it would be implemented. If installing android apps is not as easy as going to the store and clicking download then am afraid it would just be a waste. I mean why go through the hassle of side-loading android apps when I can just buy an android phone.





    I am Sure google will not sit down and watch this happen smoothly for Microsoft. They will definitely have something to say or do about it.









    Android apps would help sales because they add a lot of value to the platform. WP native apps wouldn't instantly disappear if MS support Android apps. Many adjustments would occur slowly, the immediate effect would be give access to WP users to hundreds of thousands of apps.





    Google doesn't own the Android apps. Developers can submit their apps to multiple stores. For example the amazon store. Microsoft would use the apps of the Nokia X store.
    07-04-2014 09:30 PM
  12. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    The day I see android apps come to windows phone is the day I look to move to iPhone. I don't want anything google related near my os and that just shows that Microsoft is throwing in the towel.
    Residing, Mavee Shah and forked like this.
    07-04-2014 09:39 PM
  13. tgp's Avatar
    Android is very open, and apps have access to almost anything. WP has very limited APIs. I would think that there are a lot of Android apps that wouldn't work properly because of that.
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    07-04-2014 09:41 PM
  14. ven07's Avatar
    Android is very open, and apps have access to almost anything. WP has very limited APIs. I would think that there are a lot of Android apps that wouldn't work properly because of that.
    Exactly... So the ones that do pass the qualification procedure should be welcomed
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    07-04-2014 10:01 PM
  15. ven07's Avatar
    In general... To be honest the app gap doesn't really bother me.. So yea Android has more than us, but how many are functional? if they have one that is functional then i would love for one of our devs to work on a similar app, but most of them are just gimmicks that fill up their store.. Same goes for Iphone (I think)
    07-04-2014 10:06 PM
  16. AG VK's Avatar
    Lol i did not buy my phone for the apps, but because of the functionality.. The idea of being able to readily edit my documents on the go with my phone was just to appealing to say no.. so imo people still have a lot of reasons to stick to windows phone... Plus if we get android apps the reasons to get a WP increase.. 8.1 functionality + no lag + no app gap (android apps) = one helluva phone :P
    Office 365 now exists for Android and is in some cases better than the Office suite on WP.
    07-04-2014 11:54 PM
  17. AG VK's Avatar
    In general... To be honest the app gap doesn't really bother me.. So yea Android has more than us, but how many are functional? if they have one that is functional then i would love for one of our devs to work on a similar app, but most of them are just gimmicks that fill up their store.. Same goes for Iphone (I think)
    Clearly you have never used Android or iOS, or you are wilfully making false statements. The app gap is real and dismissing the hundreds of useful apps on other platforms calling them "gimmicks" is nothing less than stupid.
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    07-05-2014 12:03 AM
  18. k0de's Avatar
    Clearly you have never used Android or iOS, or you are wilfully making false statements. The app gap is real and dismissing the hundreds of useful apps on other platforms calling them "gimmicks" is nothing less than stupid.
    Easy cowboy. Yes the app gap is real. But the OP is saying that the app gap does mot affect him. He is not alone there are many like him.
    07-05-2014 12:16 AM
  19. ven07's Avatar
    Lol @agvk... Ehm you could've easily made your statement without calling me stupid... Nonetheless I wont stoop to that level.... At the end of my comment I clearly added I think! Which means "no I'm not sure, but this is how I see it" place some emphasis on me not being sure and MY POINT OF VIEW... Furthermore there was a study about just this topic not so long ago, but I wont go into that... As for your concerns with my other comment.... I said that was my reason to buy a windowsphone and for that reason I would definitely recommend it to others! But I'm not biased so I also tell those people that office is available on their own platform however I (again emphasis) find it handier to have a windowsphone and a windows system... For the future instead of calling someone or their statement stupid just state why that person is or might be wrong, because to do otherwise would simply be idiotic :) (Oh and I'm sticking to my point of view on this particular topic....)
    07-05-2014 12:27 AM
  20. misfitpierce's Avatar
    As it was said, Microsoft standards for security are most strict which is great for security reasons. Android has all sorts of buggy crap and malware in market now. Emulated side load apps would run slower usually and take more resources like how they didn't run too well on bb. I say its whatever for an option as some ppl may enjoy the option but it seems like google might pick a bone with Microsoft somehow just because they seem to want to feud with MS always.
    07-05-2014 01:08 AM
  21. Torcher Death's Avatar
    WP has a lot of OS restrictions, so even if play store apps do enter WP store, they would be lacking in features, such as the ability to send songs on whatsapp.
    App gap surely does exist, but it doesn't matter much to me. But, what does bother me is the app quality. And as far as i know, Google is totally anti-MS, so I don't see this happening in the near future.
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    07-05-2014 07:03 AM
  22. David P2's Avatar
    And you have to remember and Android and Blackberry run Unix based OS's (Linux and QNX respectively) so you would have to pretty much rewrite them completely to run under NT (which is effectively what WP8 is) so they use the correct APIs and OS calls and such.
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    07-05-2014 07:08 AM
  23. a5cent's Avatar
    Now that Android is improving and it runs quite well in low end hardware, the advantages of WP are disappearing and the app gap is still huge.
    Or more precisely: Now that what qualifies as low end hardware has risen to a level that satisfies Android's needs.
    07-05-2014 07:16 AM
  24. rohit111's Avatar
    I would not like to see Play Store Apps on WP. The quality of apps on Google Play is disgustingly terrible. Remember the BBM fiasco? It had to be taken down for a while plus hundreds of fake BBM apps. I'm glad Microsoft sets high standards and has good QC. Plus Google Play Apps permissions invade privacy and are solely for getting something to feed ads to users. WP has much more sane Permissions lists and I think MS controls them well. So, no to Android Apps. Getting such low quality apps on WP would spoil WP's aura of high quality and on an OS this great that 'd be a pity.
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    07-05-2014 07:32 AM
  25. a5cent's Avatar
    And you have to remember and Android and Blackberry run Unix based OS's (Linux and QNX respectively) so you would have to pretty much rewrite them completely to run under NT (which is effectively what WP8 is) so they use the correct APIs and OS calls and such.
    I think this is irrelevant, as Android programs are Java based, meaning those apps have no direct dependencies on Linux APIs.
    07-05-2014 07:33 AM
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