07-12-2014 09:31 PM
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  1. DrNitun's Avatar
    Hello,

    I was surprised in how marketing is set up at my local Best Buy here in Phoenix.

    Microsoft has a big store-front type of an appearance in the computer/laptop section. Kudos!!!

    Samsung and Apple, on the other hand, had the big display and marketing in the mobile phones section. Windows Phone was nowhere to be found!!!!!

    Best Buy was not promoting anything with Windows Phone. And on top of it, new phone users were signing up (due to a promotion Best Buy is running for all their phones and carriers) with Samsung and Apple devices!

    Microsoft....what is going on here??
    sayedqd likes this.
    07-05-2014 03:10 PM
  2. paulxxwall's Avatar
    Nothing new ! I'm not trolling or hijacking but it obvious WP is on the way out the door ! And I'm very sad but I think its time to stop lying to myself and come to realize its not getting better were it needs to! I hear WP central is changing .....how convenient if they change it to Ms central they win because in all Ms as a whole is doing alot better than wp! No more ads no ads in store none! I wish they would just be honest with us and tell us what's really going on....whether it be bad or good well be ok just be honest......
    07-05-2014 03:25 PM
  3. 12Danny123's Avatar
    Nothing new ! I'm not trolling or hijacking but it obvious WP is on the way out the door ! And I'm very sad but I think its time to stop lying to myself and come to realize its not getting better were it needs to! I hear WP central is changing .....how convenient if they change it to Ms central they win because in all Ms as a whole is doing alot better than wp! No more ads no ads in store none! I wish they would just be honest with us and tell us what's really going on....whether it be bad or good well be ok just be honest......
    If WP is out of the door then what's the point of making universal apps. Making WP free. It's you don't understand Satya vision. He knows that MS needs control over their ecosystem.
    JamesPTao likes this.
    07-05-2014 03:56 PM
  4. jojoe42's Avatar
    As has been said in other threads, MS just really need to step up their advertising on WP. They may have made a loss with the massive Surface branding but the flow-on effect got people talking. They're just scared of another loss
    07-05-2014 04:25 PM
  5. k0de's Avatar
    Nothing new ! I'm not trolling or hijacking but it obvious WP is on the way out the door ! And I'm very sad but I think its time to stop lying to myself and come to realize its not getting better were it needs to! I hear WP central is changing .....how convenient if they change it to Ms central they win because in all Ms as a whole is doing alot better than wp! No more ads no ads in store none! I wish they would just be honest with us and tell us what's really going on....whether it be bad or good well be ok just be honest......
    Stop lying to others and yourself. Windows Phone is here to stay.

    In recent months, the Windows Phone ecosystem has really taken off and has shown more life than weve ever seen in its prior two years of existence.

    http://www.statisticbrain.com/mobile...re-statistics/
    07-05-2014 04:30 PM
  6. Guytronic's Avatar
    BestBuy and all other brick and mortar store fronts are pretty much at the mercy of what sells and what doesn't
    Here in the US all pointed electronics gadget sellers bow mostly to the holiday buying season.

    I would say BB doesn't dislike WP offerings it's just a matter of business.
    Any retailer won't push items that just sit on the shelves.


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    We have a BestBuy an Apple Store and a Microsoft store pretty much in the same shopping center here.
    The Apple and Microsoft stores are always jammed...the BestBuy is only busy on Christmas.
    07-05-2014 05:47 PM
  7. paulxxwall's Avatar
    Stop lying to others and yourself. Windows Phone is here to stay.

    In recent months, the Windows Phone ecosystem has really taken off and has shown more life than weve ever seen in its prior two years of existence.

    http://www.statisticbrain.com/mobile...re-statistics/
    Really? Your working with those stats? How about some real stats! Like those showing market share drop in I'm sorry to admit but the most important markets! Not Spain or .....south America or Antarctica! Here in the us and china! You really think we have all the app needed? Nope! We don't here on wpc they did a comparison on WP apps to IOS apps and it was a sad result! Go to an att .....any one you pick ask for a phone you think there gonna sell you a WP? Apps show up then disappear then show up then disappear then when it returns its in beta......sweet huh? Your stats show that were doing a little better than bb...you really think that's saying much? I keep hitting my self with the old Jedi mind trick that WP will be right up there with the big boys but look at the numbers...... It's not going to happen and not any time soon. the vicious cycle...... No users no devs no apps....no apps no users........no users no devs etc etc. Break the cycle!! And if you can't........then you can't.
    07-05-2014 05:50 PM
  8. Guytronic's Avatar
    [WARN]Stay calm please!
    This thread is going off topic.[/WARN]
    07-05-2014 05:54 PM
  9. peacefulberry's Avatar
    As has been said in other threads, MS just really need to step up their advertising on WP. They may have made a loss with the massive Surface branding but the flow-on effect got people talking. They're just scared of another loss
    I have to agree. All they have to do is advertise. Nokia was doing all of the marketing for wp...now that lumia is Microsoft its up to them to market it how it should be.
    Guytronic likes this.
    07-05-2014 05:58 PM
  10. paulxxwall's Avatar
    [WARN]Stay calm please!
    This thread is going off topic.[/WARN]
    Sorry seems lil I'm loosing leverage with WP short comings! It seamed awesome at first but because maybe I read wrong or lead on to believe that by now we would be right next to ios and android on were it counts but there just way to ahead. In features maybe but its not features that are keeping them away from WP, its every thing else you name it marketing, app gap etc! Alot of theses at guys at ms are on contract and already got paid to try something out ....didn't work....oh well got paid anyway.really sad because with some effort WP could have been sweet !
    07-05-2014 06:04 PM
  11. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    Sorry seems lil I'm loosing leverage with WP short comings! It seamed awesome at first but because maybe I read wrong or lead on to believe that by now we would be right next to ios and android on were it counts but there just way to ahead. In features maybe but its not features that are keeping them away from WP, its every thing else you name it marketing, app gap etc! Alot of theses at guys at ms are on contract and already got paid to try something out ....didn't work....oh well got paid anyway.really sad because with some effort WP could have been sweet !
    Best Buy itself is in trouble. The only reason it returned to profitability this quarter is because of cost-cutting measures, not increased sales.
    07-05-2014 06:13 PM
  12. badr0b0t's Avatar
    Hello,

    I was surprised in how marketing is set up at my local Best Buy here in Phoenix.

    Microsoft has a big store-front type of an appearance in the computer/laptop section. Kudos!!!

    Samsung and Apple, on the other hand, had the big display and marketing in the mobile phones section. Windows Phone was nowhere to be found!!!!!

    Best Buy was not promoting anything with Windows Phone. And on top of it, new phone users were signing up (due to a promotion Best Buy is running for all their phones and carriers) with Samsung and Apple devices!

    Microsoft....what is going on here??
    It doesn't matter. If someone really wants a windows phone, he/she will get it from any source. Nokia Lumia 1520 is not available here in Canada. I got one from Amazon (unlocked).

    http://www.amazon.ca/Nokia-1520-Unlocked-Smartphone-LUMIA1520BK/dp/B00H2BJ7WC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1404604624&sr=8-1&keywords=nokia+1520

    Cheers!



    ....
    JamesPTao and Guytronic like this.
    07-05-2014 06:57 PM
  13. paulxxwall's Avatar
    Best Buy itself is in trouble. The only reason it returned to profitability this quarter is because of cost-cutting measures, not increased sales.
    maybe but its definitely doing alot better than WP and its not on Only the best buy stores its mainly carrier stores that are always selling out WP! I got to best buy for washers and dryers bot phones........maybe a tv so if best buy fails oh well we still have WalMart but would really hate to see WP go but where it needs to dominate to stay alive( USA) its not doing good and neither is bb! About a billion people know more about best buy than WP ! If they knew about WP as much they are familiar with best buy......we would be in good shape! So in comparison if beat buy is in trouble .......where's WP?
    07-06-2014 12:19 AM
  14. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    maybe but its definitely doing alot better than WP and its not on Only the best buy stores its mainly carrier stores that are always selling out WP! I got to best buy for washers and dryers bot phones........maybe a tv so if best buy fails oh well we still have WalMart but would really hate to see WP go but where it needs to dominate to stay alive( USA) its not doing good and neither is bb! About a billion people know more about best buy than WP ! If they knew about WP as much they are familiar with best buy......we would be in good shape! So in comparison if beat buy is in trouble .......where's WP?
    How about Amazon.com? Many people in the US order smartphones online, not from big box stores. Amazon.com is probably more popular than Best Buy (and probably the main reason for Best Buy's declining sales). Amazon.com carries Windows Phones for all major US carriers and unlocked devices too.
    07-06-2014 12:25 AM
  15. paulxxwall's Avatar
    Someone needs to light a fire in Ms *** like yesterday! We can beg companies for apps obviously not working or we would have a billion apps . The perception is " WP? There no apps on WP" no matter where you go! Even if the person only really has maybe 10 apps on them. But I give up telling them differently! Ms hasn't helped at all!
    07-06-2014 12:31 AM
  16. paulxxwall's Avatar
    How about Amazon.com? Many people in the US order smartphones online, not from big box stores. Amazon.com is probably more popular than Best Buy (and probably the main reason for Best Buy's declining sales). Amazon.com carries Windows Phones for all major US carriers and unlocked devices too.
    your right but my point is that whether it be best buy amazon att Verizon eBay what ever ,with all those outlets for WP to fly out of.....its just not happening! You do research on a product when buying from amazon too buy if you no idea whether a product exists ...what do you look for ! I run a stereo shop.....i advertise on facebook like there's no tomorrow why? I need to sell my products! Flyers newspaper ads you name it! It's not hard and i don't have an1/8 of Ms money . WP are awesome products hands down but come Ms it begins with carriers ! If a person shop at amazon eBay or where ever they'll still stop at a store to see it and shop it on line but the still talked to someone first to get some insight! At att stores you get insights alright......and its not about WP. Not in mine or many others experience. Sorry just ranting
    07-06-2014 12:42 AM
  17. trekgraham's Avatar
    I'd say it's a combination of many elements, advertising is a part,apps and games a part. What gets me is the majority is not tech savvy, with the number of people who own Windows PCs its amazing how many buy a device developed by the largest search engine in the world. Plus with Google's reputation for killing popular projects for no reason its even more confusing. Personally I think once we get more apps, and Samsung decides to go away from Android for a in house OS you will find the market share shrink for Android.
    07-06-2014 12:49 AM
  18. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    your right but my point is that whether it be best buy amazon att Verizon eBay what ever ,with all those outlets for WP to fly out of.....its just not happening! You do research on a product when buying from amazon too buy if you no idea whether a product exists ...what do you look for ! I run a stereo shop.....i advertise on facebook like there's no tomorrow why? I need to sell my products! Flyers newspaper ads you name it! It's not hard and i don't have an1/8 of Ms money . WP are awesome products hands down but come Ms it begins with carriers ! If a person shop at amazon eBay or where ever they'll still stop at a store to see it and shop it on line but the still talked to someone first to get some insight! At att stores you get insights alright......and its not about WP. Not in mine or many others experience. Sorry just ranting
    I think it depends on the consumer. I purchased an ultrabook from Amazon.com without trying it or even looking at it in a brick and mortar store.
    07-06-2014 12:59 AM
  19. Editguy1900's Avatar
    Nothing new ! I'm not trolling or hijacking but it obvious WP is on the way out the door ! And I'm very sad but I think its time to stop lying to myself and come to realize its not getting better were it needs to! I hear WP central is changing .....how convenient if they change it to Ms central they win because in all Ms as a whole is doing alot better than wp! No more ads no ads in store none! I wish they would just be honest with us and tell us what's really going on....whether it be bad or good well be ok just be honest......
    Sure, they bought Nokia's devices division for billions just so they can shut it down. Sheesh...
    07-06-2014 01:05 AM
  20. Guytronic's Avatar
    I've made all my Windows phone and recent Microsoft hardware\accessory purchases on-line.
    I've been in the Microsoft store here a few times recently and I found it a very pleasant experience.
    I can see BB not trying too hard with an MS store in sight (my locale)

    I would most likely just make any future purchases from Microsoft in their store.
    Admittedly I'm not a large fan of Best Buy.
    Last edited by Guytronic; 07-06-2014 at 01:36 AM. Reason: Grammar
    07-06-2014 01:17 AM
  21. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    I've made all my Windows phone and recent Microsoft hardware\accessory purchases on-line.
    I've been in the Microsoft store here a few times recently and I found it a very pleasant experience.
    I can see BB not trying too hard with an MS store in site (my locale)

    I would most likely just make any future purchases from Microsoft in their store.
    Admittedly I'm not a large fan of Best Buy.
    I haven't been inside a Best Buy store in over a year, and I drive past it every time I go to Starbucks (which is very often--at least twice a week, sometimes every day a week).

    I do purchase new phones from the AT&T store, but the one in my neighbourhood is actually very Windows Phone friendly. The last time I was there was to get a screen protector, which I ordered online but had delivered to the local store (so I could get an AT&T employee to install it for me, as I'm terrible at installing screen protectors). I spotted 3 different AT&T store employees who took the 1520 out of their pockets.
    Guytronic likes this.
    07-06-2014 01:23 AM
  22. badMojo69's Avatar
    Best Buy is nothing more than a tech showroom. They have farmed out 35% of their floor space to Samsung and Microsoft specific space. Honestly I'm surprised they don't have a WP section in their MS store.

    Anyway I like WP, but MS needs to cover the development cost for any of the top apps. Once those apps reach a certain penetration point the devs pay MS back. Everyone wins.
    Guytronic likes this.
    07-06-2014 09:04 AM
  23. Chregu's Avatar
    Stop lying to others and yourself. Windows Phone is here to stay.

    In recent months, the Windows Phone ecosystem has really taken off and has shown more life than we’ve ever seen in its prior two years of existence.

    Mobile Phone App Store Statistics | Statistic Brain
    I think these numbers are really interesting.

    So Android has almost 30 billion app downloads in 2014. Windows has a little more than 4 billion. With 62 % and 58 % people seem to show about the same willingness to pay for apps. Still, the app store revenue is for both around one billion?

    If this were true, so much less people would pay so much more for Windows Phone apps when looking at marketshare, even if we ignore the 7.5 times higher downloads on Android.

    I really can't understand how this is supposed to work. But if it's true, we should tell that all the developers, because then it would make much more sense to release apps for Windows Phone than for Andoid as the competition is so much lower with 220k apps rather than 850k apps and already these 220k apps make as much money as the 850k apps on Android.

    Well, without real sources I might have wasted too much thoughts on this already.
    xboxonthego3 likes this.
    07-06-2014 10:09 AM
  24. James8561's Avatar
    ^because google-lovers on android all wants ad-laden free apps. or they pirate stuffs. all the cheapos are on droids.
    mohawk apple likes this.
    07-06-2014 05:19 PM
  25. MDMcAtee's Avatar
    The Best Buys here in St.Louis areas don't sell Windows phone or their accessories,so count yourself lucky 🍀
    While I am not all doom and gloom for WP to roll over and die 💀 anytime soon,I don't think it is ever going to be a strong contender unless they get someone in touch with reality that truly understands what we here in the USA wants,and not just what they think we do.


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    07-07-2014 09:46 AM
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