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  1. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Keep in mind that I have no desire to see this by the way. I'd rather WP apps over Android. I don't like this idea at all.
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    07-08-2014 08:58 AM
  2. Jangir Amit's Avatar
    http://wmpoweruser.com/eldar-microso...lumia-devices/


    read this
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    07-08-2014 08:59 AM
  3. Jangir Amit's Avatar
    MS not end support for windows phone,they makes an emulator for android apps. It's optional but overall destroying WP app development.
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    07-08-2014 09:02 AM
  4. MDMcAtee's Avatar
    If they allow a VM in WP does that mean all apps built for Android will run on it? Also...what are the limitations of a VM or VB on the lower memory Nokia phones,wouldn't it by nature have to have more memory to even run well?

    Me thinks it's either going to be a full dual boot or a full asop device...that has been seen
    Last edited by MDMcAtee; 07-08-2014 at 09:23 AM.
    07-08-2014 09:11 AM
  5. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    If they allow a VM in WP does that mean all apps built for Android will run on it? Also...what are the limitations of a VM
    Depends if it's a full Android VM or limited to a MS Android store VM like the X series. I think it will be more to the latter than the first.
    07-08-2014 09:23 AM
  6. MDMcAtee's Avatar
    Depends if it's a full Android VM or limited to a MS Android store VM like the X series. I think it will be more to the latter than the first.
    What they have now isn't a very good solution in the X imho.,perhaps for the lower memory phones,but not as a high end one. Many are rooting them and running custom roms.

    From a techies pov..a full dual boot with cloud backup....I think I would have to get one because it would mean it wasn't as dependent on the hardware except for storage and since both WP and ASOP allow for SD card...man that really opens the door wide open.

    I could see some of the advertising for this phone now
    Last edited by MDMcAtee; 07-08-2014 at 09:37 AM.
    07-08-2014 09:27 AM
  7. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    What they have now isn't a very good solution in the X imho.,perhaps for the lower memory phones,but not as a high end one. Many are rooting them and running custom roms.
    Well that's not surprising as the X series is supposed to be about bringing people to MS services and WP. I've considered it a failed idea since day one myself. A VM on the other hand is a different thing entirely. I don't see it being a full VM as that would mean running Google services and so on. I don't see Google approving that. I'm thinking more along the lines of a custom store. You can't root a VM. I also see this about bringing the missing apps rather than supplying Google services.
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    07-08-2014 09:29 AM
  8. MDMcAtee's Avatar
    Well that's not surprising as the X series is supposed to be about bringing people to MS services and WP. I've considered it a failed idea since day one myself. A VM on the other hand is a different thing entirely. I don't see it being a full VM as that would mean running Google services and so on. I don't see Google approving that. I'm thinking more along the lines of a custom store. You can't root a VM. I also see this about bringing the missing apps rather than supplying Google services.
    Wow you type fast...lol

    A true dual boot..on a WP would be like running Boot Camp on a Mac..truly the best in one system provided you have the hardware..that would be the key 🔑
    07-08-2014 09:40 AM
  9. Chregu's Avatar
    Wow you type fast...lol

    A true dual boot..on a WP would be like running Boot Camp on a Mac..truly the best in one system provided you have the hardware..that would be the key 
    I don't see much practical use in that. How would you use such a device? Deciding in the morning what apps you most likely will use and start your OS according to that? And even if you could switch instantly, could the two systems talk to each other, would messages sent on one system also be on the second system?
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    07-08-2014 09:46 AM
  10. rodan01's Avatar
    What they have now isn't a very good solution in the X imho.,perhaps for the lower memory phones,but not as a high end one. Many are rooting them and running custom roms.




    Really? How many? 1%? Few people root their phones.





    The Nokia X had been a major success. It's the bestseller phone in Russia and other markets. The third bestseller in India which is the third biggest smartphone market in the world.





    That's why MS announced the X2 and they may rebrand it to Lumia X for the next iterations, according to the rumors.
    07-08-2014 09:52 AM
  11. rodan01's Avatar
    duplicate.
    07-08-2014 09:53 AM
  12. MDMcAtee's Avatar
    I don't see much practical use in that. How would you use such a device? Deciding in the morning what apps you most likely will use and start your OS according to that? And even if you could switch instantly, could the two systems talk to each other, would messages sent on one system also be on the second system?
    Why couldn't they communicate effectively.

    Everyone has been thinking universal apps mean just across one platform,but.....what if they really mean across all platforms all os's ?

    Think about this...Microsoft takes this on and will bring it's desktop lead into it's mobile division.

    Yes..you decide what os you use for whatever reason..a developer can build a universal app to talk to all so you won't be without the other
    07-08-2014 09:54 AM
  13. MDMcAtee's Avatar
    Really? How many? 1%? Few people root their phones.



    The Nokia X had been I major success. It's the bestseller phone in Russia and other markets. The third bestseller in India which is the third biggest smartphone market in the world.



    That's why MS announced the X2 and they may rebrand it to Lumia X for the next iterations, according to the rumors.
    1% that are rooting is many...I never said everyone...which to my way of saying a dual boot phone that can have all benefits of each platform is really the best of both worlds
    07-08-2014 09:56 AM
  14. Maaz Mansori's Avatar
    Well that's not surprising as the X series is supposed to be about bringing people to MS services and WP. I've considered it a failed idea since day one myself. A VM on the other hand is a different thing entirely. I don't see it being a full VM as that would mean running Google services and so on. I don't see Google approving that. I'm thinking more along the lines of a custom store. You can't root a VM. I also see this about bringing the missing apps rather than supplying Google services.
    I agree, and Microsoft would have complete control over which apps to allow in this store. I think some people are under the assumption that this strategy would automatically give Windows Phone users complete access to all Android apps. It's still a risky strategy in the sense as some major app developers may decide that running an Android app on Windows Phone is adequate. However, if Microsoft can provide a proper incentive to these developers to continue native Windows Phone support, possibly with the Universal app strategy, this ordeal could potentially work out. For ease of use, both native apps and approved Android apps should be available in the same store (but not the same titles duplicated) and of course the Android ones would be restricted to those who have installed WP 8.2/WP 9.0 or whatever is required.
    07-08-2014 10:03 AM
  15. rodan01's Avatar
    1% that are rooting is many...I never said everyone...which to my way of saying a dual boot phone that can have all benefits of each platform is really the best of both worlds

    According to Tom Warren It will be the same way BlackBerry is doing it.
    07-08-2014 10:05 AM
  16. MDMcAtee's Avatar
    According to Tom Warren It will be the same way BlackBerry is doing it.
    Gee...how well is that working out for them.

    A true dual boot phone won't be saddled with the restrictions the X has and will take Microsoft from a distant 3rd to the top.

    As to the developers,it won't hurt them at all and if the apps that need to talk cross platform are enabled,will give both WP devs and Android devs more customers.
    07-08-2014 10:11 AM
  17. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Wow you type fast...lol

    A true dual boot..on a WP would be like running Boot Camp on a Mac..truly the best in one system provided you have the hardware..that would be the key
    I don't see a dual boot working personally. It totally removes the idea behind what MS is trying to do. It's not about being an Android phone. It's about getting the apps quicker and making it a more viable option to switch to WP. It also gets away from using Google services.
    07-08-2014 10:12 AM
  18. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Gee...how well is that working out for them.

    A true dual boot phone won't be saddled with the restrictions the X has and will take Microsoft from a distant 3rd to the top.

    As to the developers,it won't hurt them at all and if the apps that need to talk cross platform are enabled,will give both WP devs and Android devs more customers.
    I wouldn't expect dual boot personally as such. Maybe a 'Lumia' version of the X interface. High spec phone. Anyway, we're talking VM not dual boot. Virtual Machine is different than a dual boot.
    07-08-2014 10:13 AM
  19. Chregu's Avatar
    I don't see a dual boot working personally. It totally removes the idea behind what MS is trying to do. It's not about being an Android phone. It's about getting the apps quicker and making it a more viable option to switch to WP. It also gets away from using Google services.
    I'd like to have the Google services though ;-)
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    07-08-2014 10:14 AM
  20. rodan01's Avatar
    I agree, and Microsoft would have complete control over which apps to allow in this store. I think some people are under the assumption that this strategy would automatically give Windows Phone users complete access to all Android apps. It's still a risky strategy in the sense as some major app developers may decide that running an Android app on Windows Phone is adequate. However, if Microsoft can provide a proper incentive to these developers to continue native Windows Phone support, possibly with the Universal app strategy, this ordeal could potentially work out. For ease of use, both native apps and approved Android apps should be available in the same store (but not the same titles duplicated) and of course the Android ones would be restricted to those who have installed WP 8.2/WP 9.0 or whatever is required.


    In fact Microsoft needs a big user base to motivate developers to test and submit their apps to the store and keep them updated to the latest version.



    So, both WP and Nokia X add users the store and are needed to attract developers.



    Both platforms are part of the same strategy.



    People has to understand that even if WP would have all the apps, most consumers would choose Android anyways, the brand is too strong. Nakia X helps to capture some of those users to the Microsoft ecosystem.
    07-08-2014 10:17 AM
  21. theefman's Avatar
    Gee...how well is that working out for them.

    A true dual boot phone won't be saddled with the restrictions the X has and will take Microsoft from a distant 3rd to the top.

    As to the developers,it won't hurt them at all and if the apps that need to talk cross platform are enabled,will give both WP devs and Android devs more customers.
    No, it wont take Microsoft to the top. Why would it?

    And do you really think WP developers wont be affected, not to mention the slow death of native WP apps? Will these android cr-apps have live tiles, transparent tiles, work in the action center or lock screen? Or is it worth throwing all that away just to have the lastest snapchat app?
    07-08-2014 10:18 AM
  22. fdalbor's Avatar
    This is a rumor, a rumor and 53 cents will get you a cup of coffee at Burger King.
    07-08-2014 10:20 AM
  23. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    This is a rumor, a rumor and 53 cents will get you a cup of coffee at Burger King.
    Click the link on post 303. Then come back and tell us it's a rumour again.

    Also, think this. If this was a rumour, don't you think MS would have squashed it by now? They may be slow but this is damaging.
    07-08-2014 10:29 AM
  24. Silviu Bogusevschi's Avatar
    I still do believe that MS are bringing Android apps support to Lumia Android, not Lumia WP.
    07-08-2014 10:31 AM
  25. SnailUK's Avatar
    most consumers would choose Android anyways, the brand is too strong.
    Do you honestly think Android is a strong brand?

    I do know lots of people who live and die Android, but i know far more that just got sold a cheap, high spec phone with tons of free apps. Most people couldn't care less about whether its Android/iOS/WP/Blackberry, as long as its cheap, and has the apps they want.
    07-08-2014 10:32 AM
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