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  1. BenGutt's Avatar
    Elop wants to write another burning platform memo.

    If this is true, the whole MS ecosystem is in doubt. Windows will be left behind for business users and desktops, while all tablets, phones and devices will be either Android or Apple. The Windows desktops would then slowly leak over to Apple so users have a single platform.

    All that would be left of Microsoft will be Office, and a few die hard windows installations.
    Mavee Shah and Technoloay like this.
    07-07-2014 07:26 AM
  2. Mavee Shah's Avatar
    Elop wants to write another burning platform memo.

    If this is true, the whole MS ecosystem is in doubt. Windows will be left behind for business users and desktops, while all tablets, phones and devices will be either Android or Apple. The Windows desktops would then slowly leak over to Apple so users have a single platform.

    All that would be left of Microsoft will be Office, and a few die hard windows installations.
    So true
    07-07-2014 07:32 AM
  3. Silviu Bogusevschi's Avatar
    Friend, time can change anything. It wouldn't be too unrealistic to put MS in place of Blackberry. All had their time Nokia, Nintendo, Sega, Commodore, Blackberry, Netscape, Atari, and Palm.
    Microsoft has Office, which is everywhere literally.
    Microsoft has Azure, which is deeply used by enterprise in the world.
    Microsoft has Windows, which takes 90+% of the Desktop market share.
    Microsoft has Visual Studio, which has a ton of market share as well.
    Microsoft has SQL Server for DB on Windows Servers.
    Microsoft has Skype, XBOX, Bing, etc etc etc.

    How can you compare such a beast with a browser developer or Sega?
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    07-07-2014 07:32 AM
  4. Chregu's Avatar
    HTC has windows phones and android phones....

    Why can't Microsoft.. It's all a money making game. They aren't going to stop making windows phone and the quantity of android phones they produce wont dent windows phone market share.

    Get a grip and put your panties back on ladies....
    Windows Phone market share is laughable in many regions, and where it isn't Bing services are so bad that people will certainly think twice about buying another Windows Phone already. Also, Microsoft services are already amazing on Android and iOS.

    I see no reason, no reason at all why an Microsoft Android device should bring more people to Windows Phone. All the services they get on the X series are also on iOS and Android, they don't need to move to Windows Phone.

    At the same time Windows Phone is still lacking in so many areas and instead of focusing to bring this in order, Microsoft invests more resources on developing more Android devices?

    And why should I buy a Windows Phone device that runs Android apps, if I can have an Android phone with much more features running the same apps better?

    I rather focus on a company releasing one good product, instead of a company fragmenting itself to many mediocre products.

    And now explain to me again, why are we overreacting if all of this turns out to be true?
    Ebuka Allison and ttsoldier like this.
    07-07-2014 07:37 AM
  5. Mathias Bonn's Avatar
    If this phone is real, and the price isn't too high, I might as well buy it. After all, I switched to WP because of Nokia's hardware, not the OS itself.
    07-07-2014 07:44 AM
  6. msxbox's Avatar
    Here is it
    End of WP

    Copied from another thread
    He also just posted the tweet below

    Tom Warren @tomwarren 52m

    For the record I have not heard MS is going for Lumia Androids or "Nokia by Microsoft." But anything is possible. Both would be odd.
    07-07-2014 07:48 AM
  7. Ebuka Allison's Avatar
    This isn't HTC making Android phones and windows phones,it is Apple making android devices and calling it an iPhone 6a. Its Pepsi using coke, or the CEO of BMW driving around a Toyota. Its a meh. Whatever. There's already something better, why try. And f you guys who believed in us, you were stupid.
    07-07-2014 07:52 AM
  8. nicfromwales's Avatar
    The big question is how does this tie-in with Microsoft's universal app strategy, and rumoured Threshold info (the possible merging of RT and WP)? Microsoft can't afford to give up on a mobile Windows OS, as the world is heading away from the desktop towards mobile devices. If they give way to Google and Apple, that's Microsoft potentially out of the consumer OS business for good. Can anyone see Microsoft letting that happen?
    07-07-2014 07:56 AM
  9. jlzimmerman's Avatar
    I would highly suggest those who are unhappy (myself included) with this rumor to tweet the people who need to hear it.

    @windowsphone
    @joebelfiore
    @microsoft
    @CWeberatMSFT
    @satyanadella
    07-07-2014 08:05 AM
  10. johnh3's Avatar
    If this is true I wonder if it will ever be a Windows Phone 9? Or will Microsoft go with Android AOSP all the way?
    AOSP is out of Googles control since that part are not in The Open Handsets Alliance.
    But at the same time there a lot of new OEM.s with Windows Phone 8.1 so its confusing..
    07-07-2014 08:10 AM
  11. Technoloay's Avatar
    It's sad but true..
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    07-07-2014 08:11 AM
  12. badMojo69's Avatar
    Pay close attention to the last sentence.

    If your enemy is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in superior strength, evade him. If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant. If he is taking his ease, give him no rest. If his forces are united, separate them. If sovereign and subject are in accord, put division between them. Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.
    07-07-2014 08:12 AM
  13. keerthi vasan's Avatar
    Pay close attention to the last sentence.

    If your enemy is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in superior strength, evade him. If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant. If he is taking his ease, give him no rest. If his forces are united, separate them. If sovereign and subject are in accord, put division between them. Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.
    So MSFT is appearing where it is not expected to 😆
    07-07-2014 08:15 AM
  14. Mike Gibson's Avatar
    MS exists for decades, it had many failures, I very doubt it will be bought some day by Apple or Google...
    Look at the market caps and financials of the three companies. AAPL alone has enough cash right now to buy around 50% of MSFT's outstanding shares ... and when the writing's on the wall MSFT's cap will fall significantly. MSFT abandoned their existing platform, Win32, with WinRT/Win8. They threw over a billion users and hundreds of thousands of developers in the trash in one product release. It was most likely a fatal mistake.

    MSFT will get leaner in the coming years ... but will they get meaner? I have zero confidence in Nadella.
    07-07-2014 08:16 AM
  15. paulm187's Avatar
    If this is true, the writings on the wall. They got a cloud man at the helm, Windows client, Windows Phone, Xbox will not be important anymore. Microsoft want to control the back-end, they perhaps feel the race is lost on the front-end consumer devices. Its just a matter of time before Nokia is spun off. Nadella will turn this company into the next IBM. I just hope I'm wrong....very wrong.
    07-07-2014 08:16 AM
  16. 12Danny123's Avatar
    Look at the market caps and financials of the three companies. AAPL alone has enough cash right now to buy around 50% of MSFT's outstanding shares ... and when the writing's on the wall MSFT's cap will fall significantly. MSFT abandoned their existing platform, Win32, with WinRT/Win8. They threw over a billion users and hundreds of thousands of developers in the trash in one product release. It was most likely a fatal mistake.

    MSFT will get leaner in the coming years ... but will they get meaner? I have zero confidence in Nadella.
    I personally blame Nadella. He's clearly running the company down right now.
    07-07-2014 08:17 AM
  17. wp8-1's Avatar
    Sorry, but there is no positive side to this if this leak is true. It would be Microsoft ditching their own OS... I have loved my 925, but if this ends up true I would go to ios because I would be done supporting Microsoft.
    07-07-2014 08:18 AM
  18. paulm187's Avatar
    I rather Android than iOS the lesser of the two evils, at least Google is pro open and not control freaks like Apple
    07-07-2014 08:20 AM
  19. girishN's Avatar
    Aargh! And I will never be able to show my face to my friends again.
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    07-07-2014 08:20 AM
  20. Jazmac's Avatar
    You promise? Right hand on the bible, cross your heart? Just leave if you have to. I said we needed to wait to see how Nadella views the phone wing of Microsoft and I have yet to see evidence he has much interest. Anyone ever see an image of him holding a Windows Phone?
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    NADELLA, TAKE THIS WINDOWS PHONE!!

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    07-07-2014 08:22 AM
  21. AG VK's Avatar
    This would be great. I've used an L920 and 925 before switching to a Nexus (too many apps missing and they still can't seem to figure out ****ing email attachments).

    I don't find WP any better than iOS or Android (and I care little for aesthetics or a "consistent" UI). I would love to have Nokia hardware and camera on a phone running Android.
    07-07-2014 08:23 AM
  22. meddyrainzo's Avatar
    This isn't HTC making Android phones and windows phones,it is Apple making android devices and calling it an iPhone 6a. Its Pepsi using coke, or the CEO of BMW driving around a Toyota. Its a meh. Whatever. There's already something better, why try. And f you guys who believed in us, you were stupid.
    Exactly! This is like MS making Kinect for Playstation or MS making Android powered Surface tablets
    07-07-2014 08:26 AM
  23. keerthi vasan's Avatar
    This would be great. I've used an L920 and 925 before switching to a Nexus (too many apps missing and they still can't seem to figure out ****ing email attachments).

    I don't find WP any better than iOS or Android (and I care little for aesthetics or a "consistent" UI). I would love to have Nokia hardware and camera on a phone running Android.
    And that's what many are wanting. Though I have enjoyed using WP, I will not restrain myself going for a Lumia android because that gives me more value for the money I pay - good and reliable hardware and a good collection of apps which sadly is missing in WP atleast to an extent. For a not so tech savvy user this piece of news if it turns true is indeed a plus
    07-07-2014 08:29 AM
  24. keerthi vasan's Avatar
    You promise? Right hand on the bible, cross your heart? Just leave if you have to. I said we needed to wait to see how Nadella views the phone wing of Microsoft and I have yet to see evidence he has much interest. Anyone ever see an image of him holding a Windows Phone?
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    I remember studying sometime back that he was not happy with the Nokia-MSFT deal.
    07-07-2014 08:33 AM
  25. jlzimmerman's Avatar
    It's sad but true..
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    The same thing was said about Android to iOS back in 2009. They can compete, and outside of the U.S. they are. There are some things MS needs to change and those changes have been chanted by many folks here for more than a year, particularly regarding the strategy in the U.S.
    07-07-2014 08:42 AM
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