jlzimmerman
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It's still really difficult to imagine this move, especially when official apps have been flooding in lately and WP 8.1, the "first real contender" as critics would say, is right around the corner.
I remember studying sometime back that he was not happy with the Nokia-MSFT deal.
For Microsoft itself, who will trust them in the future. They're going to be seen as almost as bad as BlackBerry now, and this might hurt Nokia's attempts at phones in future. It's an aall-round mess
Windows Phone market share is laughable in many regions, and where it isn't Bing services are so bad that people will certainly think twice about buying another Windows Phone already. Also, Microsoft services are already amazing on Android and iOS.
I see no reason, no reason at all why an Microsoft Android device should bring more people to Windows Phone. All the services they get on the X series are also on iOS and Android, they don't need to move to Windows Phone.
At the same time Windows Phone is still lacking in so many areas and instead of focusing to bring this in order, Microsoft invests more resources on developing more Android devices?
And why should I buy a Windows Phone device that runs Android apps, if I can have an Android phone with much more features running the same apps better?
I rather focus on a company releasing one good product, instead of a company fragmenting itself to many mediocre products.
And now explain to me again, why are we overreacting if all of this turns out to be true?
That could very well kill WP completely, more so than the WP7 fiasco.
You're overreacting because their will be teams for each platform. If Microsoft decides to go with an android phone, they will have a team for their android phone.
The same way they have a IOS team , an Android team and a WP team for Skype.
They are not going to take away from WP to add to the android. It will be a totally different department. Microsoft is EXPANDING.
They want a slice of the pie which is Android.
Again. Them making an android phone will not affect WP market share. Hell, even if the hundred of you cry babies "abandon" WP, the market share difference will not be noticeable.
Its like if I buy a Asus transformer tab running Windows 8, and then I realize "Oh. Wait. Asus makes Android tablets too"
You guys NEED to get over yourselves. Microsoft is a business. This is not a charity.
I wonder how all the Samsung android users felt when Samsung released their Windows Phone. "Oh no guys. Samsung made a Windows Phone. I'm out!"
They could have at least dropped the idea of buying Nokia. With Stephen elop exiting Nokia in 2013, they would have gone on to make android phones from the start of the year.MS just bought Nokia, at an expense of billions of dollars. They now have a hardware company.
They must show a return on this investment or watch MS stock tank a few quarters down the line after they report huge losses, which would get the board/CxO fired. Therefore, they need to do something wherein this new hardware division actually shows revenue, if not profit. Therefore, they will think "We need to manufacture hardware that people will buy. People like Apple, but we can't make iOS devices. Hmm. If only there were an open platform which has lots of apps and is successful... hey, what about Android!"
Whose fault is it that Windows Phone doesn't get favourable reviews? They build the fricking thing. Also WP 8/1 got a lot of good reviews as well as the Lumia 925 and 1020I don't know why people on this forum are so up in arms about this. It's clearly a decision that will benefit MS - remember, WP is nothing more than a sideshow at this time - it doesn't make any money, doesn't sell particularly well, doesn't get favourable reviews and this has been going on for the past 4 years. OF COURSE they're going to go where the sales and money are; as representatives of the shareholder, it is the management's responsibility to do so. And they will, regardless of ****** tears.
MS just bought Nokia, at an expense of billions of dollars. They now have a hardware company.
They must show a return on this investment or watch MS stock tank a few quarters down the line after they report huge losses, which would get the board/CxO fired. Therefore, they need to do something wherein this new hardware division actually shows revenue, if not profit. Therefore, they will think "We need to manufacture hardware that people will buy. People like Apple, but we can't make iOS devices. Hmm. If only there were an open platform which has lots of apps and is successful... hey, what about Android!"
It seems simple and logical to me and it's what I would do with WP (after firing Belfiore in public) if I were a MSFT decision maker. Businesses care little for loyalty and whatnot.
The final equation boils down to something like this: WP has currently 3-4% of global marketshare. If Android Nokia devices could capture even 7-10% of the market (which I think they will) that is a net win for MS. Not so much for fanboys, but omelettes, eggs, etc.
no need to ask for promises.....its probably going to happen.......and so will alot of WP usersYou promise? Right hand on the bible, cross your heart?
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He might have been talking about the money spent but I don't know since I never heard this in context. Having said that we don't yet know if Microsoft is shifting its focus and steering away from actually completing to a strategy of "if you want WP, we have WP but if you want android, we have that too". Because the bottom line for MS is the services they sell and Natella comes from the world of cloud services. That is what he knows and seems to know next to nothing about WP. Hasn't even shown interest. Not outwardly anyway. Without that push from the top we are sure to see personnel being shifted away from WP.
I don't know but maybe its not too late to have Nadella replaced.
Man Nokia should've kept work on the N9. It would've been glorious by now with here maps and maybe contracts with google as well.They could have at least dropped the idea of buying Nokia. With Stephen elop exiting Nokia in 2013, they would have gone on to make android phones from the start of the year.
LOL, Why would they or HTC android users feel threaten by a Samsung/HTC WP, When they do not take WP seriously and already know that those phones were dead on arrival?I wonder how all the Samsung android users felt when Samsung released their Windows Phone. "Oh no guys. Samsung made a Windows Phone. I'm out!"
I personally blame Nadella. He's clearly running the company down right now.
I would highly suggest those who are unhappy (myself included) with this rumor to tweet the people who need to hear it.
@windowsphone
@joebelfiore
@microsoft
@CWeberatMSFT
@satyanadella
Good point!!!
I don't like Nadella. Whenever he is asked a question, he evades it, and keeps bleating on about 'mobile first, cloud first', like it's his catchphrase.
I say replace him with someone who has more passion.
That's why Ballmer was value for money. You may not have liked him as a person, but he overflowed with enthusiasm, and without him we wouldn't have Windows Phone.
If MS dumps WP in favour of Android, they will forever be a laughing stock in the industry. MS have always led with innovation. If they rollover for Google, that innovation may just be finished!!!!
Yes, for what Ballmer (Developer Developer Developer) is worth, yes he made some mistakes ( ok, many mistake ) but there is no denying his love for MSFT . ...and WP